This is Clarabelle. She spent five years on a dairy farm. Every year she’d have a baby and the baby would be taken away from her. She was eventually marked for slaughter, but happened to be pregnant, so was brought to an animal sanctuary.
One day she gave birth and the calf was nowhere to be found, because she hid the baby. For three months she kept hiding the calf in different places, whenever the calf would be found, she’d hide the calf elsewhere. After three months she no longer feared her calf would be stolen from her and brought her out with her.
We can debate what the repercussions of this global atrocity are going to be. Perhaps H. Sapiens is soon to be removed from the premises through new viruses, perhaps us humans will reincarnate for generations in a planet that takes away its natural beauty and leaves us to suffer ever escalating heatwaves and horrible smoke from massive forest and peat fires.
I don’t know and these days I try not to care that much. Rather, I aim for the mentality of a child. You can explain to a child that a pig is the only one in a sanctuary because the siblings were taken for slaughter and the children will say sorry to the pig. The children already understand the only thing you’re required to understand.
And though I try to think like a child, I am also just drained, heartbroken and exhausted. We live on the most beautiful planet I could imagine, but it is apparently just not good enough. People are not willing to do what it takes to preserve it. They would willfully destroy it, to maintain a system of industrialized death.
It’s not that people don’t understand it. They already understand it and spend the rest of their lives trying not to understand it. They have made a choice: Given the choice between stuffing the subsidized flesh of some animal bred to be genetically obese that lived its whole life in a dark cage down their pie-hole or maintaining a habitable planet, they would choose the prior over the latter.
But in addition to being free to make this choice, which has already been implemented for them, they also demand the privilege of not having to realize they made this choice. This is the only authentic demand most people now have towards their society: They demand the right to go into their graves, not knowing what they are.
Unfortunately this is impossible. To postpone collapse, the system will have to continually remind the people of what they are. It has no other path available to it. And as the consequences they observe become ever more horrific, their anger at being reminded of what they are will only intensify. It is the most banal hell I can imagine, but it is the hell that people chose.
Quote: “We live on the most beautiful planet I could imagine, …”
There is beauty, and there is cruelty in the animal kingdom, which you don’t want to see. If I could show you all the cruel which happens only at one day there, you would disowning yourseld from the animal kingdom.
You can only be cruel, when you understand what you are doing.
And that’s where modern Western man is different. In no other era lived men who were so aware of what they are doing.
Quote: “You can only be cruel, when you understand what you are doing.”
Makes no difference for the victim. The pain is the same.
I don’t think this is true, because the worst pain is psychological.
So the cow is smart enough to understand that its children will be taken and slaughtered, but charismatic intelligent creatures like wolves and cougars that would in nature be the ones to eat those offspring, do not understand what they are doing? Does the cougar not fear for the starvation of its young just as the cow fears for the capture of hers?
Dolphins are arguably more intelligent than brown people, yet I incur karmic damage when I eat fish, but they’re off the hook?
This whole ideology looks more and more like your inability to deal with the fact that life necessarily includes animal suffering.
Meat eating is normal for some animals. “Industrial livestock production” is an abomination. There. I explained it.
Sorry, but I see that your name appears to be Irena, which is a female name. By default I do not engage in philosophical discussions with women, as I do not view them as equals. If you’d like me to tell you what to think, feel free to ask at any time.
stepping up the cringe game
>So the cow is smart enough to understand that its children will be taken and slaughtered
I doubt the cow knows her child is slaughtered. She just misses the child.
>Dolphins are arguably more intelligent than brown people, yet I incur karmic damage when I eat fish, but they’re off the hook?
Sorry guys, but I think I need to wrap up this blog.
There’s never going to be anything better to come forth out of this blog than this sentence.
I could go off to Tibet, meditate in a cave for twenty years and I’m not going to have anything more amusing to say than this.
>but charismatic intelligent creatures like wolves and cougars that would in nature be the ones to eat those offspring, do not understand what they are doing? Does the cougar not fear for the starvation of its young just as the cow fears for the capture of hers?
Under the right conditions, a dog, that is, a domesticated wolf, will befriend a pig as if it were their child.
But when they see these animals running, when they’re in their “drive”, they will kill them. When they’re in their drive, they don’t comprehend what they’re doing.
It’s similar to how a man’s thinking abilities disappear when he’s very horny. He’s not thinking through what he’s doing, he just acts as a slave of animalistic lust.
>Dolphins are arguably more intelligent than brown people, yet I incur karmic damage when I eat fish, but they’re off the hook?
Alright, serious response now.
It’s worse than that.
The average person is a complete moron. If you’re reasonably intelligent, which I am afraid you are, then you are morally responsible for all sorts of things you do the average person is just too stupid to comprehend.
Let me give you an example. If a group of 18th century peasants are going to lynch a witch because they believe she is murdering their children, they’re idiots. They can’t be considered morally responsible for the murder.
They genuinely sincerely believe this woman is murdering their children. Because they don’t comprehend they’re murdering an innocent woman, they can’t be held responsible, any more than an executioner can be held responsible for executing a man who turned out not to be a serial killer.
And you, you are morally responsible for their murder, simply by not trying to stop them. Why? Because you have the knowledge to understand why their actions are bullshit.
“the average person is a complete moron”. I pretty much agree with that, but the thing is, they choose to be morons. Therefore they don’t get to be free of the consequences of their actions. I disagree with what you are saying. Almost everyone in comfortable countries can read nowadays. But they don’t read anything of substance, nor do they sit and ponder logically and honestly. And I don’t blame them for not doing this, because there isn’t much reward in doing so. They will often just end up feeling alienated from normal people, miserable, powerless, maybe like you feel judging from what you write.
But they must bear the responsibility of their actions. Otherwise what, do only the tiny minority of not-stupid people have to struggle with all the responsibility? That is not fair, anyway the less stupid people are often alienated, powerless, already suffering. Why should they have more heaped on their plate?
Fucko’s comments are sometimes a little aggressive and outrageous. They don’t bother me because I believe in freedom of speech. Modern day propaganda is so arrogant, primitive, and ridiculous that it could enrage anyone with a brain. It doesn’t enrage stupid people though.
Fucko is obviously wrong about the top brown chess grandmasters, mathematicians etc. But I don’t blame him for his comment because the “all men are brothers!! React peacefully to being replaced!!” propaganda is so annoying.
Don’t wrap up your blog, you are an interesting dude with a sense of humour.
BTW I agree with discwrites when he said that individual attempts to decelerate environmental destruction by not driving motors, not reproducing, not eating meat, are useless.
The oligarchs in charge want the system, the environmental destruction, to keep going. Therefore it will.
>Otherwise what, do only the tiny minority of not-stupid people have to struggle with all the responsibility? That is not fair
Well look at it this way. A child has constant fun, with no real understanding or responsibility for anything. The only authentic expectation we have from a child, in exchange for everything we offer to a child, is a sense of innocence. Some people have been corrupted by society, they put additional demands on children that end up damaging them, but the primal demand that humans have for a child is innocence.
And similarly, once you progress to a certain point of understanding, the only real reward left is a sense of dignity. Just like you can look at a child and be content with their ignorant bliss, you can look at the glut of humanity and find refuge in the realization that they do not understand what they are doing.
If you’re looking for a reward, then you haven’t reached that point yet.
Especially since veganism is basically the best known way to kill the most animals in the most horrible ways possible, including yourself as you slowly commit suicide.
Fuck off with your lies radagast, propose a VIABLE solution to thw suffering problem that doesnt involve selective noticing of the, yes, suffering brought on by meat eaters doing their best to minimise it (not including factory farming in that group, for obvious reasons) by eating pastured somewhat humanely slaughtered beef etc, vs the ignorant pompous vegans blindly chomping on beans grains seeds and crops that require many times the number of deaths in far worse ways to intellectually equivalent animals for every bland, health destorying bite.
Whenever I feel down and depressed, this video helps to cheer me up:
https://youtu.be/IOXMjCnKwb4
Hopefully it does the same to you.
Thanks
“…they also demand the privilege of not having to realize they made this choice.”
Very well put, that’s what makes this whole thing so absurd. Consider A) that most people ignore these facts on a hourly basis day by day and B) are (more or less) aware that they are actively engaging in looking away. Now that’s already quite delusional (i.e. it fragments the mind).
But what’s even more absurd is that when you happen to be a vegan/vegetarian, or maybe just an omni who skips meet for one day, and you accidentally come across one of these persons, they may still be upset or angry with you. And why does that raise the absurdity of the whole situation? Becausee now the person is upset about something, about which he/she hadn’t been upset just one second ago due to the active ignorance. And even though the person has been actively ignoring the matter, he/she is unable to apply that to the situation at hand. So the first level of delusion is ignoring the obvious situation, and then the next level is to become upset because one cannot keep ignoring it for that moment, even though that is what the person wants and has been doing all the time anyway.
My tentative conclusion from all this is that humans (including myself unfortunately) are caught in a mental swamp of large dimensions and that they are not really individuals at the mental level. Funny enough the latter goes against many current spiritual teachings at first glance according to which the fundamental “problem” is the egoism of humans/that they are always acting for themselves (I am thinking about Krishnamurti for example). In my opinion it is just the opposite, the “problem” lies in the tremendous fragmentation/interconnectedness of the mind which drains people from their energy and disperses it effortlessly. I propose that people should become individuals first in order to progress on the spiritual path.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUIbg0skPdw
Although I eat meat and drink milk, I can’t argue a consistent moral argument for it. Fundamentally it is abhorrent especially the issue you’ve described here.
The Maximum power principle ensures the demise of the technosphere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_power_principle
https://nps.edu/web/rasm/predictions
The 6-month Ensemble Forecast is lower than the actual sea ice extent.
Just as no one can imagine their own death, it will be hard to imagine the death of the biosphere which will end industrial agriculture.
Big brained humans are appropriating the planet because we can. Yes, industrial animal factory farming is horrifying but that’s the way it is because we are 8 billion strong.
You are too sensitive, my friend.
Like you, I don’t consume beef or pork. But when Lierre told the Chinese wise man she refused to eat meat he told her, “Oh no, this you cannot do, my child.”
Please continue with your fascinatin blog.