Here‘s one of those esoteric problems you probably never heard of. Around 8% of our greenhouse gas emissions come from the production of steel from iron ore. The governments want to bring this down to zero of course, through use of green steel.
However, the world has exhausted the best iron ores that used to be available. Today’s iron ores have a lower content of iron and a higher content of contaminants that require a lot of energy to remove. The effect this has is that it requires more processing at higher temperatures, thus resulting in higher energy use to produce steel and higher greenhouse gas emissions over time, rather than lower emissions.
It’s the red queen race: You need to keep running harder, just to stay still. What we have today is about as good as it’s going to get. In contrast to what the e/acc dorks promise you, we’re not going to have a city on Mars, we’re not going to be a type I Kardashev civilization and we’re not going to build a Dyson sphere around the sun. There are limits to growth.
Want top quality iron ore. Talk to the global Queen of Iron Ore. She has all the top quality iron ore that you might want. Endless supply. Supply for a 1000 years. Endless. Even Trump bows down to the Iron Ore Queen.
You Euros are pathetic weak cucks. The Iron Ore Queen would never sell to you.
China rules the Iron Ore – and the Queen delivers:
Didn’t know Gina Rinehart existed till now. Thanks Retard, she is moderately interesting.
Wonbat would know more about her. She lives Down Under. Aussie only exists as a Chinese mining operation.
Yeah well pretty sure this whole reality is an emotional harvesting operation ran by demons; so Chinese influence in Australia is the least of our concerns.
>Waghhh the human cattle tortured by forces hopelessly outside their control (such as capitalism) will have brown skin instead of white skin in the future. – Low IQ Low Status White Males
There is no reason to give a shit about any of this. I’m autistic so I find it moderately interesting but that’s about it.
Gina? What can I say? Somehow, her family managed to get a perpetuity over iron mining in WA. So, apparently, she is in fact our queen, given a perpetuity is abhorrent to the law, and the obscene concentration of inherited wealth and power that she represents.
Retard is right, Australia is basically a mining colony/vassal for other powers who exploit its resources.
Thanks to decades of neoliberalism, most manufacturing and heavy industry is now gone, and our economy is less complex than Uganda’s.
We do have a second industry, which is a housing Ponzi.
Don’t get me started on the lowest common demoninator losers in both major parties down here who have overseen and guided this pathetic descent.
It can be hard to stay motivated…
TISM – Give Up For Australia
And US stooge and Zionazi colony.
She is, in my opinion, even more vile than her evil sire, Lang Hancock. Even her own children despise her. The dodo with her is a ‘Christian’ lunatic and our worst PM, SO FAR.
A Dyson sphere might ultimately be possible and even inevitable in the future, who are we to say?
Speaking of the Red Queen, anybody else here experienced Alice in Wonderland syndrome as a child? What a trip…
https://youtu.be/Vl89g2SwMh4?si=xaYqYeRL80LZlNUe
When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen’s off with her head
Remember what the dormouse said
Feed your head
Feed your head
My mom insisted that we buy a VW bus and go on a family road trip to Disney World, otherwise she would divorce my father (so we did). Unfortunately it was an orange bus, not a green one. We had a 8 track tape player in it and I used to sit in the bus while my mom shopped and listen to that song and wonder WTF it was about. Buying the bus screwed up the family finances for years. Then my improvident brother nagged his way into our buying a VW Thing (remember those?); I will admit that was a truly cool car (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Type_181). But as a result my poor father was stuck commuting in it for years, three days a week, an hour each way in New England winters, from our small town to the city where he worked (so he always had a hand gun under the seat to go with the one he had in the nightstand next to the bed). The Thing had no heating system to speak of and was in no way airtight so it was like commuting in an ice cube tray. Those did not seem like the good old days at… Read more »
In the future there will be 10 billion humans, 20 billion, who knows??? At some point if you want to build a jumbo jet, you’ll have to send a million illegals to scour the landfills for waste aluminum. The earth’s crust will be depleted like overused farm land.
We are already long past sustainable use of our earth. Most don’t have the intellectual capacity to understand what this even means.
OT:
Kiddos, don’t ever fall in love with women who know about Datura/Belladonna
https://youtu.be/2g77t_CnYM8?si=E22nZizqcTwjWlSZ
Hey Mehen, I recall you commenting long ago that one of the main reasons you were so drawn to Rintrah’s blog was a sense of nostalgia, because it reminded you of the very early days of the internet. What specific websites were you referring to?
Not websites.
Usenet.
(Details available upon request)
>Not websites. Usenet. (Details available upon request) Not that anyone asked, but: Yes — both soc.singles and the poster “Jackie Tokeman” have a small amount of Usenet-era lore, mostly remembered by people who were active on Usenet in the 1990s. I’ll outline the background, because the context matters. ⸻ 1. What soc.singles was The Usenet group soc.singles was created as a place for single adults to talk about relationships, dating, and social life. Unlike modern dating apps, the culture was more like: • long personal essays • arguments about relationships • philosophical debates about sex and gender • occasional flirting The group also had its own FAQ and community norms explaining that it was not supposed to be a personal-ad dating board.  Despite that rule, many people treated it partly like a social club for singles on the early internet. ⸻ 2. The “boinks” One of the most famous bits of soc.singles lore was the phenomenon of “boinks.” A boink was: • a real-life meetup of soc.singles users • often organized around cities (Denver Boink, Dallas Poker Mini-Boink, etc.) These gatherings became legendary in early internet culture because they were among the first examples of online communities meeting offline.… Read more »
https://hardwick.fi/ilkka/d1.htm
I definitely don’t want anyone here to fall in love with me, but I know about Datura because my uncle used to use it, and so did my father. I also read about it as a teenager in the books by Carlos Castaneda.
I wrote that comment before watching the video. So now I watched it, and it is quite disturbing. The imagery is satanic, as is the music. That’s serial killer music. They use that to brainwash sensitive young minds to become school shooters, to become clinically depressed and suicidal, and to to hate women.
By the way, if you’re feeling so severely depressed that it’s interfering with your quality of life, and your ability to live a deeply meaningful and productive life, you might want to pay attention to and reassess the kind of music you’re listening to, because it could be doing major damage to your psyche. Of course, some people are just way too far gone to be able to do that.
No offense Big Bird, and maybe I’m just desensitized but “Sweetest Kill” doesn’t seem anymore satanic or evil than like a typical horror movie. it’s clearly just some artists being a bit silly.
This is coming from the guy who is moved to tears by a Lady Gaga My Life as a Teenage Robot AMV.
https://youtu.be/Vo30QhmeW_M
(This is beautiful and I’m not being ironic.)
It’s hopeless, Big Bird. Most of the people posting here never knew a world where sick and demonic stuff wasn’t accessible everywhere all the time. It all seems normal to them; it is like the air they breathe, and they have trained themselves to seek out ever more of it. There is a reason that religious denominations try to keep young people away from that; it is spiritually and psychologically damaging. But it is all considered normal now.
I feel like the average American meal is more satanic than some music video made by people trying to be edgy.
>Cute girl pretending to eat a guy in a fictional scenario as art.
>Vs millions of beings with the minds of children being locked in crates without seeing the sun, murdered in various ways, cut into pieces by machinery, and processed into cute little packages for mass consumption.
One of those things are real and cause real suffering, the other is an imaginary scenario.
>I feel like the average American meal is more satanic than some music video made by people trying to be edgy.
They’re both satanic. Food gets into your body faster, music and imagery gets into you mind faster, like a virus, subtly operating behind the scenes. Your mistake is believing that because something is fictional means it’s harmless, but that’s not true at all. At a subconscious level everything you see and read and listen to and are exposed is perceived as if it really happened. Even if at a rational level you know otherwise, your subconscious experiences it as real.
Yes. And at a spiritual level. It is telling that Mehen and CB and Rintrah cannot even imagine living without this kind of music and these videos, now that they have experienced them. They are now like satanic spiritual daily bread for them. They will argue forever now for how good they are. They probably couldn’t go a day without that stuff at this point without some sort of physical intervention. They’ll come up with any sort of rationalization.
>Yes. And at a spiritual level. It is telling that Mehen and CB and Rintrah cannot even imagine living without this kind of music and these videos, now that they have experienced them. They are now like satanic spiritual daily bread for them.
This is an absurd accusation, and beneath you.
Speaking for myself only, I would go so far as to say that every song/video I have posted on this blog represents high levels of beauty or depth — I am something of an elitist in this regard. Whether they tickle your fancy or not is a separate question.
I thought you were the sweetest kill Did I even know? And all the time we thought we did Was it just for show? If they try to pull you out Would you even go? I thought you were the sweetest kill Did you even know? I held your hand until the light The scars were on the back And all the time we were the right Was it just retract? And they can try to put you down, wear you out Get you through the idea of the luck I thought you were the sweetest kill Did we even know? All the time, we get by, trying to figure out our lives Like a fade out All the time, we get by, trying to figure out our lives Like a fade out When we took the level ten Was it just a twelve? And when we went to where we’ve been Was it just for self? And they can try to wear you down, put you out Get you through your will that won’t work Well I thought you were the sweetest kill Could I even know? All the time, we get by, trying to figure out our lives… Read more »
No offense intended, (although I understand my comment will land that way) but what you and Karen wrote explains why you religious types get a bad rap sometimes: perhaps you have discernment in certain areas, but a lack of imagination and ability to parse certain kinds of art with nuance and, yes, discernment.
In point of fact, if you care to investigate the lyrics and meaning of the original song, and compare it with the story of how thedirector of the video decided to “take it in another direction,” you will see how you can’t always take things at face value. The original song/lyrics are quite tender and intimate. And some directors choose to go in “wild directions”. I suppose this points to the inherent chaotic nature of the art/music/business world (which I once had some acquaintance with)
It is understandable that religious folks will naturally perceive ambiguous things through the lens of their own mental models. I suppose that goes for most (if not all) ideologies/philosophies.
Human, all too human.
I.e., here is the top-voted comment from the old “songmeanings.com” website (and this interpretation aligns quite closely with my own subjective, lived experience… hi, LSWMLM): Alright, here it is, our singer once became involved with someone beneath their ”league,” if you will, of less intelligence, or lower stature, possibly even the same being as themselves, but having made all the ”wrong” decisions. Someone that they, at first, thought was just another ”’sweet” little ”kill,” as we all have in our lives, (we’re made of flesh.) But once they got in there, got close to this ”kill,” got to truly know them as we do with anyone we are intimate with, they fell in love…unexpectedly, unforeseen, improbable, even. How could someone that once seemed so simple, such an easy mark, be so complex, affect me so much, and all the while remain so stagnant in this impossible, ridiculous realm in which you toil? Our singer feels like a father/mother figure to this person that they have tapped into. This person has broken them free of the harsh, real world that they live in, and introduced them to a whole new world. This new world holds the same reality, the same torment,… Read more »
>perhaps you have discernment in certain areas, but a lack of imagination and ability to parse certain kinds of art with nuance and, yes, discernment.
Oh, I see, simulated murder is high art, eh? Why stop there, there are such “artists”, such as Marina Abramović, that enjoy simulating rape, pedophilia, bestiality, and cannibalism, all in the name of art, and they use the same exact argument as yours, but in reality they are just deeply damaged people, who attract other deeply damaged people, and snub their noses to anyone who identifies the darkness and speaks out against it. Interesting how the same people who defend this type of decadent art also think Jeffry Epstein did nothing wrong.
You are too bird-brained to have understood me.
One of the band members themselves criticized the video as “literalist bullshit.”
But this gets into the complexity of “herding cats” in the art world and is apparently above your pay grade.
Dude, calm down. Maybe you need to consult your AI therapist or something. The issue isn’t just this video in particular, it’s the entire genre. I don’t give a fuck about the backstory. Most people watching it will have no idea anyway.
What “genre” are you referring to exactly?
And I don’t pay much mind to people who are too ignorant (or arrogant) to know their limitations.
>That’s serial killer music. They use that to brainwash sensitive young minds to become school shooters, to become clinically depressed and suicidal, and to to hate women.
Possibly relevant (or not) but the director of the video is a woman: Claire Edmondson.
But to be fair to you, the director of “American Psycho” was also a woman: Mary Harron.
So there is that…
There are limits to growth, but how do you square support for the status quo with wanting degrowth? Those two things are fundamentally contradictory. Let’s accept the obvious: the world has limits. Once we accept that boundary, two very different strategies seem to follow. The first is degrowth – reducing consumption and reorganizing society around lower energy and resource use. The second is what we often see winning out in geopolitics: attempting to maintain access to dwindling resources through economic pressure, military force, and geopolitical dominance. In other words: either adapt to limits… or fight over them. The wars and power struggles around the Middle East, including the current war, look very much like the second strategy. Ukraine fits the same pattern. So I wonder if you’re wrestling with an internal contradiction between these two responses to planetary limits. If that’s the case, one way to clarify things might be to ask yourself which of these strategies is so aggressive and morally troubling that its supporters rarely, if ever, state their motives plainly, instead dressing them up in the language of freedom, security, humanitarian concern, and so on. Looking past the pretexts, which strategy is so disturbing in its implications… Read more »
Asteroid mining.
The Chinese, the last, best, hope for humanity, are working on new processes to utilise their own, lower quality, iron reserves and the mountains of scrap steel and iron.
There is enough junk metal in the world. Number of humans will decrease, not increase, all statistics are clear enough. The growth rate is sharply declining. Those statistics don’t include WW3 what was started in 2022 and will unfold now at a faster pace. Millions will die, very soon. I see no problem in shortage of metals. The more ore we process NOW, the better. We then have what we have for the next generation. They will never have to dig and process ores, they will recycle the metal which is our gift to them. You are talking of problems which will never become real problems. (Only in your brain, but that’s not reality of course.) In Europe people getting older and older, there will be enough metals and useless stuff in the recycling process in the coming years. Because old people need fewer of “everything”, and maybe there will be a social accepted form of ättestuppa in the next decade. Enough material, enough livingspace will then be freed for the young ones. There will be a golde age, and no collapse. Collapse only for the ill, weak, and old. (So this will affect around 50% of Europes inhabitants, but… Read more »
I very much miss most of the old, weak and ill people I’ve known who have died. I cherished their company and remember them with love. Most young people love many of their older relatives and neighbors and family friends. I’m sorry you didn’t have that grace. Also, the people who survive will not be well; it will not be a golden age for young people. Most of the young people I know are sickly and have at least one chronic illness; usually more than one. Why that is could be a matter of debate, but the fact of it is not; it is simply the case. They will not benefit from the deaths of loved ones. Death is not a good thing; it is a sorrow, even the death of a sparrow or an ant.
You raise a good point, which is that once iron is mined out of the ground, it stays on the surface. Metals don’t disappear after they are used in the way that oil and coal do. The annual number of births worldwide, even including Africa, actually peaked in 2012 and has been declining ever since. The global population is set to peak in 25-35 years, even assuming no wars or other catastrophes, after which it will decline for the foreseeable future (for at least several generations). There might be a point when it makes more sense to ‘mine’ landfills and abandoned buildings, rather than the depths of the Earth. And a constrained population has a correspondingly constrained demand for things like iron.