I would like to move on to other subjects, away from SARS-COV-2, but I feel obliged to explain a number of important issues I haven’t really seen other people discuss before. The reason so many people have now died from SARS-COV-2, with 900,000 deaths in the United States alone so far, is almost entirely down to how we have treated this virus. Millions of people have died, who didn’t have to die. Additionally, the reason this virus has had the opportunity to behave so differently from any other virus, is because we ourselves paved the way for this virus.
SARS-COV-2 became far more dangerous than I originally anticipated, because I did not anticipate that humans would genuinely be so stupid as to continue with their lockdown experiment. To help you understand how SARS-COV-2 became so dangerous, I want to offer you a metaphor. Imagine you own a forest. The forest has a problem with rats. You don’t particularly like rats, they cause you and your neighbors problems, so you decide to deploy rat poison in the forest. It’s not the best rat poison you could use, in fact you were warned that the rats may be resistant to it, but you figured that something is better than nothing, so you strew it onto the forest floor.
Initially after you deployed your poison the number of rats declined, but quite rapidly you were left with more rats than ever before. What had happened was that after you deployed your poison, the other small mammals in the forest, hamsters, mice, rabbits, hares, hedgehogs andsoforth began to eat from the poison too. These animals died out. Eventually the rats that survived had developed complete resistance to your poison and so now they were not just unaffected by it, they benefited from the fact that you had gotten rid of all the other animals with which they live in competition, as they moved to take over their nests and holes.
Now I want you to take this idea and see for yourself if it could apply to the novel coronavirus. When this coronavirus came into existence, it had an advantage over all the other respiratory viruses, in that nobody had ever encountered it before. Some people had some useful cross-immunity from other coronaviruses, but most people had no real preparation for a virus of this nature.
In contrast, whenever influenza, adenoviruses, human corona viruses, rhinoviruses, respiratory synctial viruses, metapneumoviruses and other respiratory viruses try to spread themselves, they run into a problem that almost all adults have already had an encounter with them, or their close relatives. The immune system comes prepared for the battle. This is a big part of the reason the novel corona virus had such a high rate of transmission: Most of its potential hosts had no relevant pre-existing immunity.
Generally speaking, whenever we try to stop the coronavirus from spreading through social distancing measures, those measures also prevent other viruses from spreading to the same degree. If staying at home prevents you from getting infected with one respiratory virus, we would also expect it to work for another respiratory virus. Imagine we implemented measures, that reduce the number of opportunities for respiratory viruses to infect another person by 25%. As an example, perhaps we moved from spending five days working at the office to just one day at the office.
Imagine two different viruses, an adenovirus and the novel coronavirus. The novel coronavirus at a certain point in time was able to spread from one infected host to another 1.5 infected hosts on average. In contrast, a competing adenovirus that sought to infect as many people as possible had to deal with people’s pre-existing immunity and could only jump in another 1.2 people on average.
With 25% of the opportunities to jump over lost due to government mandated social distancing policies, the adenovirus now gets to infect 0.9 new people per host. On the other hand, the novel corona virus has now gone from 1.5 infected hosts, to 1.125 hosts. One of these viruses is now on the path to extinction. The other virus continues to spread, but its now forced to spread at a slower pace. The life cycle of these type of respiratory viruses is not very long, it could be around five days on average.
Let’s say both viruses start out with 1000 hosts that they infected. After one hundred days, they have both gone through twenty cycles. How many people will get infected after one hundred days? For the Adenovirus, we’re looking at just 121 hosts who get infected now. On the other hand, for the coronavirus, we’re looking at 8433 people. What if we had no social distancing policies whatsoever and still had the 1.5 hosts infected? You would theoretically have 3.3 million people infected with the new coronavirus and 38337 people for the adenovirus. This is the sort of number that frightens epidemiologists, but you can’t just naively model exponential growth. As more people are infected, the chances that an infected person is surrounded by other infected people increases, meaning that high rates of infection eventually force the R number to come down on its own.
However, this is the eventual outcome we would see after a number of generations that is important to understand: Whereas the adenovirus has nearly gone extinct, infecting just a fraction of the people it would normally infect, the coronavirus has managed to spread itself unimpeded. Most people don’t understand this simple principle, even prominent scientists fail to understand it. This simple theoretical exercise we carried out here explains things that are otherwise difficult to understand, like the sudden mysterious absence of influenza during the pandemic: The measures that we used to discourage coronavirus infections made the corona virus spread slower, but they forced other viruses to gradually go (locally) extinct. How could measures that don’t get rid of SARS-COV-2 somehow force influenza to disappear? Now you hopefully understand how this could happen.
So, you might think to yourself “well this is actually great, imagine if we also had to deal with influenza, metapneumovirus and other viruses during the pandemic”. But that’s the wrong way of looking at this. These viruses are competing with each other for hosts. The very mild benign viruses are our friends. Whenever they infect us, we have to raise our defenses. Those defenses then also work when another virus shows up next and tries to enter our bodies. In the case of a relative deadly respiratory virus like SARS-COV-2, this is very useful.
So, take the five day cycle model that I showed you earlier. We go crazy in march and shut everyone inside their homes. A hundred days have passed, it’s now summer and we have forced the mild respiratory viruses into nigh extinction, whereas SARS-COV-2 continued to spread. Summer passes, we enter fall and the temperature, lack of sun and humidity levels begin to favor the spread of respiratory viruses again.
Whereas normally vast swathes of us would now start getting infected with the common respiratory viruses, these respiratory viruses now have to begin spreading again from a much lower baseline. Remember our earlier theoretical example, you can quite easily end up with 99% fewer hosts as the baseline from which the mild viruses start spreading again.
For influenza in particular, we know that this is roughly the number we’re looking at:
Many people look at graphs like this and think “oh we simply call the flu corona now”, not comprehending what really happened: The same measures that were meant to “flatten the curve” for SARS-COV-2 forced our mild friend influenza into near extinction. The near extinction of respiratory viruses like influenza then made it easier for SARS-COV-2 to spread.
Take a look with me at this study, that looks at the interference between different respiratory viruses:
Interactions among 17 respiratory pathogens: a cross-sectional study using clinical and community surveillance data
The authors write:
We conducted an observational, cross-sectional study using samples collected by the Seattle Flu Study between 11 November 2018 and 20 August 2021. Samples that tested positive via RT-qPCR for at least one of 17 potential respiratory pathogens were included in this study. Semi-quantitative cycle threshold (Ct) values were used to measure pathogen load. Differences in pathogen load between monoinfected and coinfected samples were assessed using linear regression adjusting for age, season, and recruitment channel.
21,686 samples were positive for at least one potential pathogen. Most prevalent were rhinovirus (33·5%), Streptococcus pneumoniae (SPn, 29·0%), SARS-CoV-2 (13.8%) and influenza A/H1N1 (9·6%). 140 potential pathogen pairs were included for analysis, and 56 (40%) pairs yielded significant Ct differences (p < 0.01) between monoinfected and co-infected samples. We observed no virus-virus pairs showing evidence of significant facilitating interactions, and found significant viral load decrease among 37 of 108 (34%) assessed pairs. Samples positive with SPn and a virus were consistently associated with increased SPn load.
Here you see what I mean. Whereas we see 37 examples of cases where infection with one virus inhibits the spread of another virus, we see NO examples where the viruses make it easier for each other to infect us. When the pigeons and the raccoons in your neighborhood consume your garbage, the rats die of hunger. Similarly, when the influenza virus goes around infecting human beings, other viruses find themselves lacking susceptible hosts.
Let’s look at another study.
Human Rhinovirus Infection Blocks Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 Replication Within the Respiratory Epithelium: Implications for COVID-19 Epidemiology
Virus-virus interactions influence the epidemiology of respiratory infections. However, the impact of viruses causing upper respiratory infections on severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) replication and transmission is currently unknown. Human rhinoviruses cause the common cold and are the most prevalent respiratory viruses of humans. Interactions between rhinoviruses and cocirculating respiratory viruses have been shown to shape virus epidemiology at the individual host and population level. Here, we examined the replication kinetics of SARS-CoV-2 in the human respiratory epithelium in the presence or absence of rhinovirus. We show that human rhinovirus triggers an interferon response that blocks SARS-CoV-2 replication. Mathematical simulations show that this virus-virus interaction is likely to have a population-wide effect as an increasing prevalence of rhinovirus will reduce the number of new coronavirus disease 2019 cases.
Our good friend the rhinovirus infects our respiratory tract. The infected cells reacts with an interferon response, alerting neighboring cells and our white blood cells that something is wrong. It’s now very hard for SARS-COV-2 to infect us, because our immune system realizes: It’s time to be on the lookout for respiratory viruses here!
This is significant, because the rhinovirus is normally the most widespread respiratory virus. Just as with influenza, the social distancing policies forced our friend into near extinction.
Another study confirms these findings:
Sequential infections with rhinovirus and influenza modulate the replicative capacity of SARS-CoV-2 in the upper respiratory tract
In summary, coinfection assays showed that SARS-CoV-2 replication is strongly or moderately impaired by a concurrent pre-existing RV/IAV infection or IBV infection, respectively, but that SARS-CoV-2 does not impair subsequent replication of RV or influenza viruses.
Where in your analysis of the deadly nature of this virus is the fact that they lied about the people dying? Many people didn’t die “of” sars-cov-2, but “with” it. And how many of the “with it” were from false positive test results. And how many of those who died, died because of the treatment and not the virus? That 900,000 figure is bogus as bogus as three dollar US dollar bill. And that’s the story everyone wants the answer to, how many people died from SARS cov2 as opposed to with it and how many people died from the treatment or lack of treatment during this plandemic.
It is often not even that authorities are lying, but that the data are not of very good quality.
Identifying the exact cause of death is difficult, especially without reliable diagnostic tools for this coronavirus. And as far as I can tell, each administrative unit counts Covid deaths in a different way, so it is difficult to compare Covid and non-Covid deaths across countries, states, counties…
What can be done quite precisely is counting excess mortality. In Europe we have public reliable data updated every week here https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps. You can see the Covid waves in the data, so people did die from it. It is not a government psy-op: excess mortality for the past two years is off the charts.
That does not mean that the various measures were justified, quite the contrary. In 2020 only slightly less people died (in excess) compared to 2019 – and this after months of lockdowns and with the vaccination campaign in full swing. And after 3 years of already high excess mortality. One has to wonder what the point of dismantling society exactly was, since it did not even reduce the total death toll.
We will probably never be able to come up with a reliable number of Covid victims, but we can put a very precise number on the effectiveness of health management in Europe. And that number is not good.
As a slightly different riff on your topic, in evolutionary biology I have encountered the hypothesis that mild respiratory diseases (coronal viruses, flu viruses) and humans live a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship. In exchange for periodic mild infections which keep our respiratory immune systems strong, we are protected from occasional infections with more deadly respiratory diseases.
Now that symbiosis is only a hypothesis, but as you importantly suggest, these type of ideas evoke the wider view of system concerns. There may be reasons why systems have become the way they are. And “enlightened” system interventions are best carried out some caution and humility for the possibility that one does not understand all of those reasons.
>As a slightly different riff on your topic, in evolutionary biology I have encountered the hypothesis that mild respiratory diseases (coronal viruses, flu viruses) and humans live a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship. In exchange for periodic mild infections which keep our respiratory immune systems strong, we are protected from occasional infections with more deadly respiratory diseases.
Yeah this is what normally happens. Then with the lockdowns these mild respiratory disease were driven into nigh extinction and we got to enjoy the Wuhan variety instead.
Lockdowns sure were a big mistake in so many different ways.
But I think the biggest reasons why this virus caused more problems than it could have:
1. Improper handling at the early stages of the pandemic: retirement homes, hospices, hospitals, etc. If you went to one of those places early in the pandemic (and were immuno-compromised) you were in serious trouble.
2. Lack of treatment: if you caught the virus, you basically were just waiting around for you to get seriously sick or wait until you got better. It seems that many serious cases would have been preventable with early interventions (antivirals, repurposed drugs, etc.) This continues to this day while they keep peddling vaccines, masks, social distancing and lockdowns.
3. Poor overall health: how many deaths could have been prevented by advocating very
basic supplementation (Vitamin C, Zinc), a bit healthier lifestyle (good sleep + a bit of exercise)? Same point as in #2: authorities keep peddling vaccines.
Nothing pisses me off more than seeing a fat person smoking in a restaurant, drinking alcohol and eating unhealthy, while I can’t go anywhere and do anything because I don’t have a vaccine pass.
That’s an interesting reaction. Are you angry at the person allowed to enjoy themselves, rather than being angry at the people who are making you have a passport?
TPTB probably know this will be your reaction.
>something that wouldn’t shock anyone with an understanding of ecology or complex systems
My reaction to the first lockdowns was that society is not something that you can turn on and off like a light bulb, and that lockdowns would have huge unintended consequences. Politicians were playing with fire and did not know what they were getting us into.
I was thinking back then of economic and social consequences (the supply chain chaos, for example), local and regional conflicts, geopolitical shifts, and the like. I was not thinking of the epidemiological consequences that you mention, since that is not my field, but of course the same applies to all levels.
I have come to think that Covid is the moment when the Western scientific, atomistic, linear approach runs its course as predicted by Spengler. This is not just a healthcare blunder, but the moment the Western way of thinking has nothing left to offer the rest of the world.
>I have come to think that Covid is the moment when the Western scientific, atomistic, linear approach runs its course as predicted by Spengler. This is not just a healthcare blunder, but the moment the Western way of thinking has nothing left to offer the rest of the world.
Interesting, never thought of it that way.
Sidenote – different power players/groups have shown their hand at each juncture. Under the cover of covid relief, US passed a $6.5 trillion CARES bill.. .which while giving extra unemployment benefits for some months, basically turned out to be a $5+ trillion corporate giveaway. In the UK, Boris’ cronies got a ton of the testing and medical equipment contracts…. Each country around the world had their own flavor of local corruption feeding at the trough. So that was big initially… And with the lockdown, certain groups were favored over others (which business can open, who had to close etc). No one was putting up serious resistance to lockdowns yet, due to the fear mongering by MSM, so it really was easy money for some folks.
> UR TIME IS OVER WHITE MAN!!!
I hate to disappoint you but there is not one monolithic “western way.”
So basically, we’ve created an genetic bottleneck for most respiratory viruses, selecting for the most transmissible strains. I’m not sure what the consequences of that will be, but I’m pretty sure they’re not all going to be good.
Everything in nature is connected in the most intricate ways that took millions of years to evolve. In my opinion, to mess with these things is pure hubris.
I am quite sure that the immune system (not only the human one) is a sort of communication system. Viral DNA can be found in the human genome, so why not the other way round also ? Immune Systems communicating by means of Viruses…
Locking up people and social distancing and masking is one of the greatest crimes against life ever…
Bravo … your argumenation is logically developed and well articulated.
When I hear people like Bill Gates suggesting spraying aerosols into the atmosphere to attenuate the Sun’s energy reaching Earth’s surface, the first thing that comes to my mind is, “Don’t screw with nature.” Vaccines, even the “effective” ones like that for polio, are emblematic of mankind’s hubris that we can control a vastly complex adaptive system without any fear of unintended consequences.
Our “betters” think they are better gods than God himself.
COMPASSIONATE EXTINCTION PLAN (CEP)
1. Every country on the planet is on board with the Injections. Even Sweden. When have all countries aligned on any issue? Never.
2. Not a single MSM outlet is interviewing any of the expert dissenters – Yeadon, Bridle, Montagnier, Bossche etc… and the mainstream social media platforms are blocking them.
Conventional Oil peaked in 2005 http://www.euanmearns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/C-Cdec141.png
Shale in 2018.
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
Shale binge has spoiled US reserves, top investor warns Financial Times. https://energyskeptic.com/2021/the-end-of-fracked-shale-oil/
Shale boss says US has passed peak oil | Financial Times https://www.ft.com/content/320d09cb-8f51-4103-87d7-0dd164e1fd25
THE PERFECT STORM : The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf
Our fossil fuel energy predicament, including why the correct story is rarely told https://ourfiniteworld.com/2021/11/10/our-fossil-fuel-energy-predicament-including-why-the-correct-story-is-rarely-told/
“The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index. “The index comes as the IMF prepares to hold virtual spring meetings this week, when it will release forecasts showing the deepest contraction for the global economy since the 1930s great depression. https://www.ft.com/content/9ac5eb8e-4167-4a54-9b39-dab48c29ac6c
Collapse Imminent: https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/
The Illusion of Stability, the Inevitability of Collapse http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-illusion-of-stability-inevitability.html
Fed is sharply increasing the amount of help it is providing to the financial system https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/23/fed-repo-overnight-operations-level-to-increase-to-120-billion.html Banks did not trust each other – similar situation when Lehman collapsed
Oil Gluts – do NOT indicate we have found more oil. We just pumped what’s left too fast.
Summary In 2019 a second Perfect Storm was approaching – the central banks had been doing ‘whatever it takes’ for over a decade…. Essentially nothing was off the table — throw the kitchen sink at pushing GFC2.0 into the future. In 2019 the guns were blazing but the beast was no longer held at bay…
What do you do when you are burning far more oil than you discover — and your efforts to offset the impact of expensive to produce oil push you to the edge of the cliff? You can accept your fate and allow the beast to shove you into the abyss…. Or you can take the ‘nuclear option’ and shut down as much of the economy as possible, preserve remaining oil and pump in trillions of dollars of life support to keep the system feebly alive.
Punchline: The problem global leaders face is that if you unleash the nuclear option without some sort of cover, the sheeple and the markets would be thrown into a panic and you risk blowing things up prematurely. So you need a reason for putting the global economy on ice — one that does not spook the masses – one that is big enough to justify such epic amounts of stimulus and extreme policies — and one that allows you to explain ‘this is just temporary – once this is gone — we will get back to normal’
A pandemic is the perfect cover.
End Game – Covid was foisted on us as cover for the response to peak oil (if we don’t slow the burn oil prices go through the roof and we collapse) but it is also being used to convince billions to be Injected. The Injection is meant to cause extremely deadly variants similar to Marek’s this .. only worse because we are deploying into a pandemic https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous.
“Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.” https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/
French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease.
The Vaccines and Boosters will Result in a Catastrophic Outcome – From a scientific viewpoint it is, therefore, difficult to understand how booster immunizations using vaccines which are not evolution-proof could prevent a highly mutable virus from escaping neutralizing anti-S Abs while driving the pandemic in a catastrophic direction, both in Israel and worldwide. How can the WHO stand by and watch as this additional experiment unfolds, soon to be followed by other countries? https://thehighwire.com/videos/vaccine-expert-warns-of-covid-vaccination-catastrophe/
The reason for this is that 8B people need cheap oil to live. They would starve without it. And 8B people without food would result in epic starvation, violence, rape and cannibalism. Industrial civilization ends soon after peak oil. Unfortunately we also have 4000 spent fuel ponds that will boil off and release toxic substances for centuries. These facilities cannot be controlled with computers and energy. So even the few remaining hunters and gatherer tribes will die as they consume these toxins in the food, air and water.
The PTB understand all of this and that is WHY every leader is on board with the Injections. There is NO way out of this — so they have decided to mitigate the suffering as much as possible by putting us down and here is the mechanism https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/why-the-ongoing-mass-vaccination-experiment-drives-a-rapid-evolutionary-response-of-sars-cov-2.