I have often argued that the main reason there is no durable herd immunity to SARS-COV-2, is because we began to vaccinate everyone. We should have had herd immunity by now, but we don’t, because of the catastrophic decision to vaccinate everyone.
And so it seems only fair to me, to point it out to you when the evidence confirms this assertion.
Here you see the degree of protection of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals against reinfection by an Omicron variant of SARS-COV-2
It’s not hard to see what’s going on here. Note how the 95% confidence intervals don’t even come close to overlapping, so it’s clearly statistically significant, not just a fluke.
If you’re vaccinated, infection recalls Spike-directed IgG antibodies, which work well against relatively similar versions of the virus, but don’t really work against genetically different versions of the virus.
If you’re unvaccinated, an infection induced training of the innate immune system, with antibodies contributing to your immunity to a far less extent. This is not perfectly able to prevent a reinfection, you’ll need to catch it a few times due to the spread of Omicron, but it’s the only sort of immunity that’s going to have any meaningful effect against more distantly related versions of the virus.
That’s illustrated in the above graph, from this study. Note the 26% protection against infection is not perfect. But it doesn’t have to be perfect. In addition to having 26% protection from reinfection after more than a year, you will still be less likely to pass on the virus, upon being reinfected.
So, with an unvaccinated population, you could reasonably expect that you would eventually witness a state of herd immunity. It would probably have resulted in more up-front mortality among elderly and the chronically ill. The long term outcome however, would have been better.
Let me remind you all, of what the long term outcome is looking like right now. The most recent estimates, suggest that 20% of children age 6-11 meet the definition of long COVID. The first versions of SARS2 were unable to infect children. But vaccinate the elderly, who naturally have deficient innate immunity that encourages respiratory infections like SARS-COV-2, and you end up with a situation where the virus becomes unable to focus on the elderly and has to figure out how to suppress or evade innate immunity to survive in the population, which is what the Omicron versions did. So now you have a generation of disabled children.
So good job boomers! You saved yourselves! This is really the final fuck you of the boomers. Perhaps you thought climate change was the final fuck you, or you thought the housing crisis was the final fuck you. No, they had one final fuck you left, they decided to basically destroy the brains and blood vessels of their own grandchildren, by buying themselves a few more years with a poor quality vaccine. I’m pretty sure I ended up as collateral damage to save the boomers too, my brain is not what it was back in 2019 either.
In a normal world, there would be a new Nuremburg tribunal right now for the people who pushed this vaccine. I urge you all to go back to 2021 and just read what I wrote about this vaccine, if you don’t remember. I told you in 2020 everyone was overreacting to this virus. And when they started vaccinating, I told you in 2021: In the long run this is going to make everything much worse. You don’t have to be a genius, you just need some basic knowledge of evolutionary biology.
Well, here’s your evidence. They made it much worse. Maybe it’s what you want to hear, maybe it isn’t. I know most people want to move on from the SARS2 story, they removed the QR code from their cell phone and now want to pretend the whole thing never happened, but the problem is the virus doesn’t feel like moving on from us.
This is just what you’re stuck with now. A fifth of your children have a disability before they’ve even entered the labor force, so good luck with that. And remember, as long as you have your whole adult population recalling these mediocre IgG4 antibodies against the NTD and RBD, that tend to result in antibody dependent enhancement of infection, this virus has an artificial fitness advantage over other respiratory viruses. Meaning, that you’re stuck with it. You’re stuck with this virus, for years, potentially decades to come, maybe for the rest of industrial civilization’s lifespan.
You triggered a positive feedback loop, of immune-system depleting antibody-facilitated waves of constant mass reinfection, even during the middle of summer in 2024 in Northern European countries, the clearest possible evidence that this virus is not behaving like a normal respiratory infection. It did not have to be like this, you did not have to vaccinate everyone against it. But you did, so now you taste the consequences. Idiots.
> I urge you all to go back to 2021 and just read what I wrote about this vaccine, if you don’t remember.
I do remember.
Because it was it, that gave me a great deal of not only understanding and ability to make sense of it, on multiple layers of knowledge, but also a great help keeping it all together mentally and obviously not getting “it”. Both a rare commodity at that time, especially as a NoStatusWhileMale in northern germany, 24, working, only one unvaccinated of his whole family, all his friends, every colleague at work.
Shunned, laughed at a bit even. (I was always different, though always welcomed everywhere.) Asked why I wouldn’t do it. Splitting a part of the family away for one or two years, breaking another small one off entirely indefinitely.
> I know most people want to move on from the SARS2 story,[..]
On some levels yes, interpersonally. I’ve mostly accepted, some forgiven. The really “Stupid” are more dangerous than the “Evil”. Gladly wemt away from them, in a better situation now, the best ever (except the bliss of childhood ofc.). Still, religiously reading this blog.
These posts, as well as this blog, has helped me a lot.
Thank you very much Mr. Radagast. Your thoughts and writings mean a great deal to me.
Thanks bro
Gut gemacht. All our relatives in Germany jabbed. The pressure was enormous.
During the covid insanity I saw people in their 60s and 70s – BOOMERS – who stepped up heroically and fought back against the biomedical fascism, sacrificing their careers to speak truth to power.
I didn’t see anything from the weak queer generation. They just rolled over without a peep and took their crazy gene therapy injections as ordered. A lot of them made TikTok videos sneering at “antivaxxers” for being so stupid.
I have very little respect for Gen Z.
Still, the people calling the shots (good one huh) are almost all boomers. You were right, Radagast. You did good.
The people ultimately behind this were older than boomers. Military men who finally had the chance to act on a pandemic in a way they had gamed out for so long. It is a real shame that they are so stupid and have so much power. These men do love their grandchildren; they are being punished already by what is happening.
I’m not convinced it was an accident. I’m actually leaning towards the CIA or someone similar – perhaps even a collaboration with the CCP. Like JFK and 9/11, we’ll prob never know the full truth. I don’t think these people are entirely evil either. In some ways you could say their motives are humane – a soft euthanasia perhaps by keeping a T cell exhausting virus in perpetual circulation via the vaccines versus hell on earth due to rapid depletion of the resources needed to feed the 7.8 billion insatiable cancer that is humanity. Maybe they had been trying for years for an AIDS type virus but just couldn’t quite get it right and then they stumbled accidentally on MRNA and the IGG4 response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0cXq42Snj4
If you think humanity is a cancer you are one of them. Of course i believe you dont want to be a good example and delete yourself from the planet.Its all about the others.
It’s almost as if you want to keep people from listening to you by unfair blame, rather than fair blame.
Mom and dad told their 40 year old kid he had to move out. And they refused to give him a million dollars… boomers SUCK.
An athletic young man in a co-worker’s friend group ended up passing away in his sleep a couple weeks ago. All I could think of was the vaccine destroying cells in the midbrain and testosterone during the 2-4 am T surge during sleep exacerbating it.
I’d mentioned some vaccine things to him before, but he basically thinks I’m a nutcase… Hard to function in this society now after the societal destruction that’s occurred. I didn’t mention anything about the sleep cases in young men and the V to him. There’s no point.
Asian populations had far fewer deaths than western nations, because SARS swept through asia back around 2005. This study is nice. But we already knew partial immunity lasts far longer than one year. Most likely it is life long.
“Thanks again, Generation Cronus”
https://www.rintrah.nl/thanks-again-generation-cronus/
Hey LSWM, has the whole Bird Flu thing taken off yet?
I remember my prediction and what you said regarding my prediction.
It always hurts when one realizes one has been “had”
What was your prediction?
That nothing would happen.
I’m reminded of Uncle Ted, who reached this conclusion in his manifesto after a discussion of the future and the impact of genetic engineering and so forth: “It would be better to dump the whole stinking system and take the consequences.”
A very poor take.
1. All generations (except children) majority took the Covid vaccine. Your boomer hate is misplaced.
2. There is little “natural immunity” to coronaviruses, including Sars-Cov-2. I had Covid twice. I am glad that I am unvaxed as vaccinated people typically had it many more times. But still “natural immunity” is mostly BS.
How can natural immunity is BS if you only got it twice while the vaxxed got it more? It’s not 100% but certainly not BS.
I know plenty of vaxxed people who have only gotten it once or twice, or even not at all.
The people I know who have gotten every shot available. – and I mean EVERY shot, that is three times a year, haven’t caught covid. They look terrible but they haven’t caught covid.
I have had the opposite experience, which is why anecdotes are meaningless. As the only unvaxxed in several offices, I watch with wry bemusement as everyone around me hacks, coughs, and misses work over and over again all year long. AND they look like hell.
Last year, our house hosted my college-aged children and several of their friends – ALL of whom are unvaxxed – and my very vaxxy in-laws. Of the dozen or so people staying in our house that weekend, guess who left with covid?
Guess I’ll share my experience here.
I’m healthy but a bit easy to get a cold.
– In 2021, my wife got 2 doses, while I refused the jabs.
– 2021-2023, I and my wife got covid together a few times (can’t help for the transmission). I always got it more severe, it even hurt my heart, though I did not have to get hospitalization.
– But from 2024, I got very mild covid or flu, while my wife got it worse (still ok).
So, from my own little experience:
– Covid is real, not a totally fake thing.
– Natural immunity is real. My immunity got better and better each time, and now, I’m very confident that it’ll take me very long, if ever, to get bad covid again.
– Vaccines had some effects, but in the long run, it’s worse than natural immunity. So, a bad choice for young people really.
Well, and now, I’m all for herbal remedies, not those oil-made drugs.
@Kareninca: “They look terrible but they haven’t caught covid.”
You’ve said this before, and I think you’ve also said it about yourself, but how do you know you/they haven’t caught Covid? Isn’t it mostly asymptomatic? Were you/they testing weekly for the last five years?
Personally, I’ve never been tested, also not vaccinated, but I was sick twice during the entire pandemic, I think 2021 was the worst year, the year I was the sickest I’ve been in almost 20 years. I rarely ever get sick, as in really sick, as in unable to get out of bed sick, feeling like I’m going to die sick, and it happened to me in 2021. So, I don’t know if it was Covid, but I think it probably was, either that or the flu, but it was I think during the height of the Omicron variant. And I was one of the crazy ones wearing surgical gloves and N95 masks in the stores, and I still got sick.
But I have recovered and haven’t gotten sick since.
Oh, I almost missed your post, BigBird. It is hard to find new posts in this layout.
Supposedly the covid outbreak started in December of 2019 in Wuhan. In mid-February of 2020 I was sick, which was unusual, since I almost never get sick, but it wasn’t anything strange seeming; I had a fever and I felt wiped out. I have a record of it since I can look back at my church snack duties. It is possible that that was covid, but supposedly it was not here yet and again, it just felt like a thing that I had a few times when growing up. I’ve never had a respiratory disease and this wasn’t respiratory at all.
Since then I have not been sick. I have had periods of feeling wiped out, but they were pretty easily attributable to my home life which can be challenging. I have tested weekly with RATS for over three years straight and without fail since I was required to for my volunteer position since I refused the vax (that was the law in my county). I only last month stopped doing the weekly testing. I didn’t mind testing since I figured it was some sort of data. But the RATS are lousy at picking up asymptomatic cases, so it wasn’t good data. I stopped since I have gotten bored with the whole thing since the RATS are so lousy (if they were accurate I would have continued); no-one every told me to stop; who knows what the law is now; the people who run my organization have no idea and don’t want to think about any of it.
I am REALLY careful since my father in law lives with us and he is 100 years old and any virus could kill him off. Also I don’t want my dogs to catch it; the Korea studies look bad for dogs. And I also just don’t want to catch it. I wear an N95 when shopping, use Xlear, a daily claritin (when out in the world), nasal neosporin if flying, and sometimes use an AirTamer. I have been very careful since the start of the pandemic. Early on I took ivermectin about twice a month, preventatively. I haven’t had an antibody test; it seems pointless since antibodies wane and so I could easily get a false negative.
My husband uses most of the same preventatives I do, and mostly works from home, and as far as we can tell he hasn’t caught it yet. He was sick perhaps six months ago, and we tested him relentlessly and it was always negative (and it didn’t seem like covid, per the descriptions I was reading online at the time). His father hasn’t caught it, either.
So of course I can’t know with absolute certainty that I haven’t caught it. There is no way to know for certain that a person has never caught it.
All but one of the few people I know who also claim to never have caught it have had every shot available, literally; every 3-4 months. I think this may have worked to keep them from infection, since the shot does help prevent infection briefly. They look like ghouls, however. They are very big on testing and I am sure that if they had symptoms they would test a lot. I also know a lady who believes she has never had it; she takes tons of allergy nasal sprays, and that can help prevent infection.
My best evidence that I’ve never been infected is that I don’t want to be infected. Everyone I know who has caught covid, has lost interest in avoiding catching it, even if it was a horrible experience. They stop being careful, even if they say they still care about avoiding it.
Oh, I almost missed your post, BigBird. It is hard to find new posts in this layout.
Supposedly the covid outbreak started in December of 2019 in Wuhan. In mid-February of 2020 I was sick, which was unusual, since I almost never get sick, but it wasn’t anything strange seeming; I had a fever and I felt wiped out. I have a record of it since I can look back at my church snack duties. It is possible that that was covid, but supposedly it was not here yet and again, it just felt like the once or twice thing that I’ve had a few times when growing up. I’ve never had a respiratory disease and this wasn’t respiratory at all.
Since then I have not been sick. I have had periods of feeling wiped out, but they were pretty easily attributable to my home life which can be challenging. I have tested weekly with RATS for over three years straight and without fail since I was required to for my volunteer position since I refused the vax (that was the law in my county). I only last month stopped doing the weekly testing. I didn’t mind testing since I figured it was some sort of data. But the RATS are lousy at picking up asymptomatic cases, so it wasn’t good data. I stopped since I have gotten bored with the whole thing; no-one every told me to stop; who knows what the law is now; the people who run my organization have no idea and don’t want to think about any of it.
I am REALLY careful since my father in law lives with us and he is 100 years old and any virus could kill him off. Also I don’t want my dogs to catch it; the Korea studies look bad for dogs. And I also just don’t want to catch it. I wear an N95 when shopping, use Xlear, a daily claritin (when out in the world), nasal neosporin if flying, and sometimes use an AirTamer. I have been very careful since the start of the pandemic. Early on I took ivermectin about twice a month, preventatively. I haven’t had an antibody test; it seems pointless since antibodies wane and so I could easily get a false negative.
My husband uses most of the same preventatives I do, and mostly works from home, and as far as we can tell he hasn’t caught it yet. He was sick perhaps six months ago, and we tested him relentlessly and it was always negative (and it didn’t seem like covid, per the descriptions I was reading online at the time). His father hasn’t caught it, either.
So of course I can’t know with absolute certainty that I haven’t caught it. There is no way to know for certain that a person has never caught it.
The few people I know who also claim to never have caught it have had every shot available, literally. I think this may have worked to keep them from infection, since the shot does help prevent infection briefly. They look like ghouls, however. They are very big on testing and I am sure that if they had symptoms they would test a lot. I also know a lady who believes she has never had it; she takes tons of allergy nasal sprays, and that can help.
My best evidence that I’ve never been infected is that I don’t want to be infected. Everyone I know who has caught covid, has lost interest in avoiding catching it, even if it was a horrible experience. They stop being careful, even if they say they still care about avoiding it.
Sorry, a bunch of posts somehow got trapped as spam. I am not used to this happening.
I just tried to reply to you, BigBird, but the system didn’t take my comment.
I guess if it doesn’t show up I’ll try posting it later, elsewhere after one of your posts.
In partial answer, yes, I tested weekly for 3+ years, due to county law (since I refused the vax).
>There is little “natural immunity” to coronaviruses, including Sars-Cov-2.
As with any pathogen, the degree of immunity you develop to it is not just a product of the virus itself, but also of the degree of disease that is causes.
If a rhinovirus hangs around in your nose for a little bit and causes you to sneeze, of course your body won’t develop lasting immunity to it.
If something causes your whole body to be covered in a painful rash, your body has to develop immune mechanisms that prevent that from happening to you twice a year for the rest of your life, as otherwise you’ll be removed from the gene pool.
So this whole idea that we can’t develop immunity to SARS-COV-2, because it’s a corona virus and we don’t develop immunity to those, is bullshit. Why do you think SARS1 and the MERS outbreaks were self-limiting? How can those outbreaks be self-limiting, if people would simply get reinfected with those viruses within months?
We develop immunity to influenza for many years after an infection. Well, SARS-COV-2 naturally evolves slower than the influenza viruses.
So we should have had herd immunity. The reason we don’t, is because we vaccinated everyone.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/h1n1-2009-pandemic-influenza/researchers-find-long-lived-immunity-1918-pandemic-virus
If we had long lived immunity to the 1918 pandemic influenza, why would we not have long-lived immunity to a much slower mutating corona virus?
Influenza mutates 23 times faster than SARS-COV-2:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10421855/
SARS CoV2 ‘mutates’ much more quickly in Ralph Baric et al’s labs at the UNC and AMRIID at Fort Detrick. There, things get speeded up.
Igor, you posted a picture of yourself in the Soviet army. I looked at it then I looked at the other stuff on your old site. There was a soviet maths paper that you said might be tricky for people without a soviet maths education. I was intrigued, I wanted to look at it but couldn’t open it. Do you have another link for it?
Good summary, except that I see you are still suck on blaming this on idiocy/incompetence. I think it was intentional. Oh sure, all the corrupt and stupid politicians and government workers just did what they were told (except that dude in Haiti… killed, and the Japanese PM who started to resist… killed, and few others), but this whole thing was clearly orchestrated and coordinated and rolled out in a lockstep manner across the western world. That’s not coincidence. If it was organic, you would have seen as many different responses as there are countries. But that did not happen. In fact, most countries and states/provinces/etc already had disparate “pandemic” plans on the books forever and they all threw away those plans in favor of the new lockstep orders issued in 2020. Those orders ensured that the populations would all be primed (aka psy-oped) into demanding and accepting these “vaccines” as the solution. Worked like a charm too. You will note that once they hit their target (80-90% compliance across the western world) they wrapped up the operation and this entire topic became memory holed.
And this is the same reason why we will never see that “Nuremburg 2.0” everyone talks about. You are relying on the very mechanisms that caused this to launch the investigation into themselves. Never going to happen. Even the “outsider” Trump is the dude who gave us “operation warp speed” and the death jabs in the first place. Is he about to investigate himself? Not going to happen. That’s a big part of why Trump’s role is a chaos-maker. If he keeps causing chaos are starting new crisis everywhere, nobody has the time, attention, or inclination to dig up “ancient history” and muck around with COVID.
“I think it was intentional.”
What do you speculate was their motive?
Many seem to believe depopulation, but who knows? Maybe this was just the first big step in the process of many genetic alterations that ‘they’ want to foist on us that will unspool ‘however’ into the future:
“In the long run (say a few centuries from now) it is likely that neither the human race nor any other important organisms will exist as we know them today, because once you start modifying organisms through genetic engineering there is no reason to stop at any particular point, so that the modifications will probably continue until man and other organisms have been utterly transformed.
Whatever else is the case, it is certain that technology is creating for human beings a new physical and social environment radically different from the spectrum of environments to which natural selection has adapted the human race physically and psychologically. If man is not adjusted to this new environment by being artificially re-engineered, then he will be adapted to it through a long and painful process of natural selection. The former seems more likely than the latter.”
Perhaps the kind of conditions the system is creating will also give rise to the kind of opposition that takes it down before then? Or perhaps not, and we all end up being engineered into whatever form and psychology best suits the needs of the system.
Or maybe it will collapse on its own from some other cause, say resource depletion, which it also might not do.
It’s precious of me, given what is happening, but I’m getting sick of thinking about it. It just doesn’t go away though. It’s not going to either, I guess.
I can see the appeal of that disconnected shack in the wilderness.
Many motives, not a single one. Money, control, corruption, stupidity (yes it factors in), but I agree that the two main ones at the top are: (1) transhumanism (the ability to experiment on billions of people in live time) and (2) depopulation.
It’s too perfect to be a coincidence. Let’s say SARS-COV-2 “leaked” or “released” from a bioweapons lab. If the response was honest and organic, top scientists would have been listened to, prepared pandemic plans would have been adhered to, and it would have quickly run its course, would have been over by 2021 and been a mere footnote in history, much like SARS1 and other scares (that in hindsight all seem like preparation and build up to the 2020 event).
Literally the only thing on earth that could have kept SARS-COV-2 going strong 5 years later, churning out an endless stream of never-ending variants, was to do exactly what they did: maim 80-90% of the general population with a gene-therapy that gave them a waning tolerance but not immunity to the disease. And I don’t believe for a single second that “nobody could have predicted” the outcome. What happened is the only logical outcome to doing what they did.
So we now the entire western world is being continuously flooded with SARS-COV-2 (and SARS-COV-2 spike) that anyone who reads this blog or follows science knows is a brain-eating, fertility destroying, baby killing, cancer-causing bioweapon of death. But it’s slow kill. All these things happen slow. In short, it is the PERFECT depopulation bioweapon. People have shorter lives on average (I believe someone did the maths and figured out it was 20-30 years average shorter life for the jab recipients) but meanwhile keep working at their menial jobs, the economies sputter along, civilization bumbles along, etc. The rich with access to high tech healthcare and who have insulated lives from the masses can ride it out, no problem.
Interesting.
Seeing as we are talking conspiracy, how about we add bio-war against China into the mix?
I can’t say how reliable this is, but it caught my interest, and I bookmarked it: https://www.unz.com/runz/the-alt-covid-community-begins-unraveling-the-origins-of-covid/
Among the stuff in there is a claim that the USA was talking about a lab leaked virus in China before they could have known there had been a leak. If true, how did they know? Answer, they deliberately released the virus.
Then the USA spruiked the lab leak story as cover for their deliberate release of the bioweapon. If true, this helps explain why there was a military style response to a bioweapon attack rather than a more medically sensible approach.
Then, Fauci, who was guilty AF of making airborne-bat-AIDS in Wuhan, freaked out and tried to suppress the lab leak story to cover his own guilty arse.
Then tie in the “vaccines”, which while they didn’t work (at least not the way we were told they would), were ostensibly supposed to be a useful bioweapon countermeasure.
To which I’ll add a couple of extra factors.
1. Developing sub-lethal bioweapons may get around treaties against developing bioweapons that are more lethal – hence we get the bat-AIDs, which is supposed to make people sick enough when they first contract to impede their combat effectiveness/ability to work, but not kill them (although it might kill some).
2. The new genetic “vaccines” are not really vaccines per se, but a military style technology/therapy that can be quickly adapted to new bioweapon threats. Perhaps the concept was not to create herd immunity, but to provide a therapy that can keep infected soldiers functional for long enough to complete their missions, while giving them an edge over enemy soldiers who are not similarly treated – it doesn’t have to kill the enemy to make them too sick to drive a tank or whatever. If there are long term effects of the bioweapon and/or “vaccines”, well who cares, so long as the soldiers can complete their mission when required. Acceptable losses and all that.
3. Just because the architects of the technology and those who implemented it are evil doesn’t mean they are smart. The new “vaccine” technology was not necessarily used the way it was designed to be used – instead of just treating a handful of soldiers, they treat everyone. Also, the virus, being a virus, gets to evolve – or maybe it was just never as harmless as they thought it was. In any event, their bioweapon blows up in their face.
So, that’s another hypothesis for intentional release, which seems to fit the facts, that falls short of them simply wanting to kill us all from the outset, but ending up doing that anyhow.
“People have shorter lives on average”
One good thing about this virus: Fuck getting old. I mean that in a positive way. Lower life expectancies give your life more daring as you know you only have a limited amount of time instead of having worry about your pension, whether to use the equity on your latest house sale to upscale or invest it in the stock market etc etc before you die suddenly age 49.
“I think it was intentional.”
What do you speculate was their motive?
In fall of 2019 the repo market was imploding and about to take down the banking system. COVID conveniently saved them. It provided an excuse to lock down the entire economy, thus reducing the velocity of money to zero. It allowed them to print trillions of dollars and bail out their friends. It allowed the inflation that printing caused to be delayed until after the lockdowns ended. It allowed them to bankrupt smaller companies and buy up their assets for pennies on the dollar with their newly minted bailout bucks.
Follow the money.
I think the original leak was an accident. And the American military authorities realized this was their big chance to try out a worldwide vaccination program. They thought it would be harmless and maybe even helpful because they are stupid. But that needn’t be the end of it. There are biolabs everywhere and this is not rocket science. There could be new sets of people out there taking the original virus into account, and taking the vaccine into account, and pumping out alternatives that have all sorts of effects. Who knows if they would show up in current wastewater tests. We’ll never know.
I don’t know if the original leak was an accident, maybe it was, but I wouldn’t be so surprised if it wasn’t.
More generally, I doubt it was as innocent as them just being stupid and thinking the vax was harmless and helpful. Instead, at a minimum, I reckon there was some other agenda at work there to encourage them to take big risks – something that carried enough weight in their minds to get them to take big risks.
Perhaps, for example, they were excited about the profit-making potential of the new “vaccine” technology to ‘hack’ the human body to make it create proteins to treat covid, and from there, to treat ‘whatever’ else you can treat by hacking the body to get it to make proteins.
And perhaps, the ‘authorities’ and techbros, the military-pharma complex, or whatever you want to call it saw this as a big opportunity to throw the old rules out, so they could get this new technology up and running and into everyone.
There were barriers to that that needed to be suppressed, or sidestepped, etc., so they overcame them.
It seems common enough for tech fetishists/progressivists to have a culture wherein they see themselves as being ‘disruptors’ to established rules, norms, culture etc.
They see these things as anachronisms, or as simply obstacles for them to overcome, or sidestep etc., however they can so they could foist new technology X onto everyone – for their own good of course, and for the good of society (puke).
I’m sure within all of that there were people who had noble intentions, and others who were just scumbags.
I can’t do it all justice. There was a lot going on. There were conspiracies, and whatever.
I wonder though, is what happens under rational human control – is there a single group of people calling the shots who are really in control? There was a time I would have thought people were more in control than not, but now it seems like events just kind of ‘happen’ in a self-organizing system.
I don’t want to return to the free will vs determinism debate here, but it seems related.
I’m not sure that we can say any one person, or group of people, is at fault, or to blame, for anything at all when it seems like nothing at all happens independently of various external and/or internal factors.
1-2 years ago, I also thought there must be some plan (event 201). But the more I know, the more I think like you.
I think the big promise was the mRNA platform itself. It has some very big potential, and Big Pharma promises big too.
+ First, “making a vaccine within 60 days”, against any potential viral bioweapon in the future. Wow, that made the DoD drool.
+ Second, a platform that can cure any cancer, and even prevent future ones. Wow, who does not one that?
+ Third, maybe some elixir in the near future. Wow, how can oldies like Schwab, Trump, Biden, Charles… not like it?
“If it can make elixir, certainly we can shut an eye over some ‘rare’ problems, right? Let’s shut those peasants’ mouth, so that we nobles of the world can do something FOR THE GREATER GOOD then” – that’s likely what they told each others, I think.
Well, but I guess just like Frankenstein, when humans try to play God, their little plan became out of control. They made a huge mess now which nobody wants to clean up.
Maybe the pharma/military guys panicked?
Scenario: the bad guys’ engineered, brain eating, vascular system damaging, airborne, bat-AIDS virus, escaped from their oh-so-secure Chinese Bat-AIDS lab. They PANIC!!! They have to do ‘something’, anything. PANIC!!! The experimental genetic therapy was ‘something’, so they did it.
Doesn’t sound so crazy, everyone knows it escaped from a lab now, and they have for years:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/beyond-reasonable-doubt-former-mi6-head-told-boris-johnson-covid-19-was-engineered-wiv
But ‘they’ kept it under wraps though – they know what’s best for you, don’t you know, and what’s best for society (puke). Just ask Kieth Bridge, he’s dead sure he knows what’s the right thing to do under all circumstances.
So, evil Frankensteins make abomination for fun and profit. It escapes. Then PANIC!!! With a side order of massive profits, of course.
I’m trying hard here to make this an ‘accident’ with as little control and blame as possible, but I’m not sure I’m really convincing anyone – not even myself.
Wait. I think I’ve never thought of that possibility.
I need to ponder on that, but it sounds reasonable.
Thank you for sharing your thought, really
I think the original leak was intentional. Event 201 is too much of a coincidence. The whole thing, virus and vaccine, was probably planned years in advance. They are not stupid, they are high IQ psychopaths with an evil agenda.
“Event 201 was a pandemic simulation exercise hosted by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security that took place in October 2019. It simulated a fast-spreading coronavirus outbreak and aimed to highlight the need for better global pandemic preparedness and response strategies.”
Yeah, there was some weirdness going on, that’s fer sure.
I wouldn’t trust any authorities as far as I could spit a rat after this.
““Event 201 was a pandemic simulation exercise”
Yeah, and these exercises were exercised every few years since I am dwelling on earth. But nobody had taken notice of them since Covid came around. So it is just a coincidence and not “the plan”. That’s when normal idiots, who are wasting the most of their life in in cyberspace instead in the real world, think they have discovered a conspiracy or something. That sort of BS goes around since 1995 in the www. People were more clever without the www in 90s. I think Telegram and all that smartphone shit like tiktok fried the brains of most people now. More severe damage than Covid did, lol.
The same goes with the takes from mentally ill people “there was a military exercise of the NATO in Poland and THEN the war in Ukraine started because Putin felt threatened… blablabla…!!!!1!” – But those military exercises had been taken place every year around Europe for decades, but nobody had intrest in that before the war in Ukraine started.
Those exercises are a bit weird though. It’s not the same, but say hello to Kieth Bridge, former accountant:
https://youtu.be/rjMbapSd89Q?t=1982
Fookin’ crazy man.
Doomsday Kafka.
Trust authorities at your own risk.
For your amusement, here’s the latest installment on the motive Fast Eddy attributes to these events: https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/collapse-and-cannibalism
I’m sure many of you are familiar with his hypothesis.
It’s perhaps less difficult to imagine things playing out in a more ‘mundane’ fashion.
Scenario: the last of the transport fuel has been consumed, the food supply trucks will not be coming, the population is disobeying orders to sit and starve in their homes and law and order is becoming a serious problem.
Fortunately, at the end of the day (and the end of civ), we will have characters like the unflappable Controller Kieth Bridge, Former Accountant, ready and willing to impose the “ultimate sanction”: https://youtu.be/rjMbapSd89Q?t=2150
100% spot-on.
You will also note that Trump has just now asserted that Fauci’s presidential pardon, amongst others, is void for “reasons”. This is so Fauci can now reassert his right to silence to not self-incriminate (plead the 5th, because the pardon is at risk of being void ab-initio). With a pardon in place and unquestioned, the 5th cannot be pleaded and questions under subpoena must be answered.
Can you see how now Fauci can play it both ways – plead the 5th when questioned (pardon in doubt), and also plead immunity as well (asserting the same pardon in defense).
Trump is as guilty as the rest for implementing the planned biological human depopulation process.
[Tibor]: If it was organic, you would have seen as many different responses as there are countries. But that did not happen.
This. This is the strangest thing.
The closest I came to freaking out during the “plandemic” was in 2021, when I read an article online written by a Vietnamese guy living in South Africa. He was describing what was going on, with restrictions, tests, vaccines… The freaky thing is that one would have only needed to swap supermarket chain names, and prime minister names, and the article could have been written just as well in Missouri or in Bulgaria…
Ships have watertight compartments that are designed to isolate hull breaches and prevent sinking. Individual countries functioned the same way for the world. The Taiping Rebellion killed 40 million people in China, but did not spread to other countries. The Roman Empire fell apart, but that did not affect China. Etc.
Events like those of 2020/2021 however show there is now an invisible Octopus that is controlling the high levels of power in most countries of the globe. That is a systemic risk to the human species. It clearly emerged after WW2, and most likely after 1990. It lives in the shadows, using organizations like Freemasonry to propagate their orders.
Those running the Hydra must think that they are wise, steering the ship of mankind in a direction that is best for the world (where world = their interests). In reality they are suffocating freedom and creativity in science, arts, and natural social evolution, and they are torturing everyone on Earth. Insulated from everyday life, they are as arrogant as ignorant. They are exposing the entire mankind to the possibility of systemic failure. When the Roman empire fell, the fields continued to be cultivated and mankind trudged on. How would mankind deal nowadays with a massive die-off caused by a bioengineered virus/vaccine, or by some kind of additive in food or water, or by a virus caused by monocultures in plants or animals (chicken farms discussed by Rintrah), or by some food additive that is distributed everywhere, or by some other failure mechanism we have not foreseen yet? How does the world works when the social contract is perceived by the citizenry as having been broken in all countries, everywhere, no hope left, nowhere to run for freedom, no way to fight an invisible enemy that is everywhere?
It seems like mankind will die with a “meh”, not with a scream.
> I think it was intentional
Here is a leak from 2020-12-09 that made the rounds on the internet at the time. Key point is #6: “recessive but since most of population vaccinated, in next generation female offspring have premature ovarian failure”
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“I’m an industrial engineer at Moderna and the other of us is a process development engineer. I’m sure the same thing is happening with Pfizer-BioNTech. It was hard to put things together based on the small quantities of additons happening in manual step (highly unorthodox for a continuous process production). The explanation we got was highly sensitive trade secret adjuvants being added. Digging in deeper showed how sensitive it actually was.
Most people’s understanding of this novel vaccine type is that it works as follows:
1. Make mRNA coding for S protein
2. Make lipid nanoparticle delivery system
3. Profit
How it actually works from what we’ve uncovered:
1. Make mRNA coding for S protein
2. Make mRNA coding for mutant versions of CYP19A! and CDKN1B in smaller amounts
3. Make sure that while delivery system for (1) mostly ends up in liver, most of (2) ends up in the gonads
4. Make sure form and quantity of additive upregulating LINE-1 reverse transcription activity makes it hard to detect among legit adjuvants
5. Effects from (2) integrated by (4) are recessive; mildly oncogenic effects in vaccine recipients unlikely to be noticed for many years
6. (5) recessive but since most of population vaccinated, in next generation female offspring have premature ovarian failure
(6) coincides with poor people being obsoleted by AI and robotics, so we didn’t have to dig for motivation
We’ve taken precautions but fear for our safety. So far I don’t think we’ve raised suspicion, but can’t be sure. Not sure what to do. Avoiding taking the vaccine makes us prime suspects for this leak.”
Somewhat OT, but since I’ve posted a Yes song here,
I think the lurkers should become acquainted with the art of Roger Dean.
He did most of the Yes album covers.
As a teenager I would get lost in worlds he painted.
I have a feeling that certain commenters here would love nothing more than to live in a Roger Dean world
Spires and mushrooms and glaciers and up and down and hidden/exposed.
(Some people say anything that happens in the “future” was originally nothing more than a spark of imagination in the back of the mind.)
I want to live in aerial cities which are grown from terrestrial fungi with spaceships shuttling me from one world to another, is that so wrong
https://youtu.be/Cl-QpR6sbio?si=Pz7KdRROwbSkIPbZ
“As a teenager I would get lost in worlds he painted. . . I want to live in aerial cities which are grown from terrestrial fungi with spaceships shuttling me from one world to another, is that so wrong”
Did you ever see this book – it captured my imagination back in the day: https://wearethemutants.com/2018/11/20/earth-visitors-passport-tour-of-the-universe-1980/
Thanks. That is interesting.
I love Cronenberg
My niggas, you need to Awaken
https://youtu.be/59feSG8U5EQ?si=o_XgvlPAgBM4-tCX
Karen, this is my love song to you (no irony)
https://youtu.be/hbowD1NZ-zc?si=DEhETScxufbxkvdD
How many of the kids with long covid actually have long vax?
Unvaccinated 67 year old female here. Still haven’t had it. Did get a mild head cold in August last year. Lasted 4 days. Didn’t test. No coughing or breathing issues, just stuffy. If that was Covid, it wasn’t worth mentioning. 5 of 6 of my children vaccinated (26-48). All had it several times. Don’t know if the grandchildren had it or not. Kids under 12 get 3-5 URT infections annually and like to cough and sneeze indiscriminately. I have been assaulted by many viruses that appear to have not have the ability to penetrate my immune system. Being unvaccinated is one of the best decisions I ever made.
My thoughts: The whole operation was organized like the Mafia. An Attack in two phases. First the virus, then the shots. The planners are the dons, people we dont know. In the shadows. They are the ones who want to depopulate. Deagel… Under them the capos like Gates. They know or assume the real goal and for them its also not about money. They may think “we have to kill a bunch of ppl in order to save the planet”. Thanos. Under them its the politicans, maybe the highest have a hunch but most are or were ignorant. For them it was about power and money. Under the the rest like the medicine field. Most of them didnt know. Some did and they were outcasted. They were bribed with money or pressured. Like the millions of us, the sheeps, the targets. As of today about 300.000 Germans died from the shots…
Yep
Definitely. They have been saying that the ‘useless eaters’ have to go for decades. Perhaps Prince Philip has returned as a deadly virus, as he wished. This is a US bio-weapon, worked on for years by Baric et al.Whether they expected to ‘bring China down’ as they repeatedly declare is their ambition, or just to confect a casus belli to demand trillions in ‘restitution’ from China (as numbers of the thugs have already declared), it was the USA, NOT China, who created the spike monster, and the modified mRNA killer shots. All the ‘evidence’ for a WIV ‘leak’ comes from recidivist liars in Western ‘intelligence’, politics and the MSM sewer.
“They are the ones who want to depopulate. Deagel… ”
In your hypothesis, the planners, the ones in the shadows, what do they get out of it other than killing us all?
You have given a reason for the capos (Thanos thinking), but what do the dons want the depopulation for – or is their motive the same as the capos?
The debt. Pensions etc. Unpayable. Either kinetic war or this silent war or a bloody endless chaotic uprising. Kinetic war in a necessary range is not doable. The west, and with it them and their wealth would go up in flames.
They made their wealth on the backs of the serves and now think with AI and robotics they dont need most us anymore, with the exception of what is necessary like police and so on. We consume their resources like oil and gas.
I think the motivation is aesthetic; a love of the beauty of nature that is twisted to evil. A desire to get rid of the freeways and the shopping malls and the McMansions.
>The debt. Pensions etc. Unpayable
https://x.com/thevinomom/status/1901662703292211595?s=46
>In your hypothesis, the planners, the ones in the shadows, what do they get out of it other than killing us all? You have given a reason for the capos (Thanos thinking), but what do the dons want the depopulation for – or is their motive the same as the capos?
I have addressed these issues long ago, when I was sharing excerpts from “The Bible” (written by Christopher Hyatt, nee Alan (((Miller))) who now seems to have been a conduit for Luciferian/Satanic wisdom)
(Keep in mind this was written in the 1990s)
I will reiterate:
+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*
The only major requirement is that all Manipulators know
that their ultimate goal is for the good of the gross force field
which is forever struggling to give birth to new life forms as
quickly as possible, regardless of the cost to the older forms.
Now, at last, the human race has the means to make radical
transformations and provide the race with the opportunity to do
away with itself in its present dead-end form.
Thus, for example, in order for immortality to exist, most of
the human race will need to be destroyed — and it will be.
At first, of course, there will be the obligatory moaning over
the “tragedy.” But, within a few months, this destruction will be
seen as a happy and necessary event, just as euthanasia will, in
time, be seen as a “new” solution to the “problems” of over
population and the funding of Social Security systems. (The
scenes at the conclusion of Stanley Kubrick’s brilliant movie *Dr.
Strangelove: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb*
present an excellent example of this process.)
[…]
It is important to reinforce the idea that the Toxick Magician
is not the cause of human suffering. Human suffering is the norm.
Being numb to the depth of this suffering is normal. Being unaware of the
stupidity of life is a defense for the survival of this particular species.
The Manipulator is fully aware that anyone who accepts and
adapts to this stupidity is not a member of the futures to come
and is nothing more than a breeding machine for more slaves.
The Practitioner didn’t invent the human condition. He is only
taking advantage of it by helping others get what they want. The
human condition is simply slavery — a repetition of species behavior from one generation to the next. The difference between humans and other organisms is that there appear to be more wild card possibilities — and this includes the complete annihilation of the species.
The Toxick Magician accepts these fundamentals and doesn’t
lament. Instead he helps the species to replace itself with something better, something more flexible, something stronger, something immortaL
This will require the death of billions of people and/or the
leaving of this particular planet. Whatever it takes, the Practitioner is constantly preparing himself both in attitude and information. However, he is not fooled — like some — by man’s inventions or by man’s cleverness in certain areas.
He is completely aware that man uses all of his inventions to
further his primitive nature, and to wait for evolution to catch up
is pure folly.
He attempts to force life to speed up the process of evolution — even if it costs him his own life — but he only does this out of choice.
Toxick Magick is focused magic, and the Toxick Magician
saturates the wound called mankind with his own vitality.
Ah, there he is!
I was wondering to myself on the bus home from work today whether you were feeling okay: “Mehen just doesn’t seem like himself. . .”
I’d decided to provoke you a bit, see if I couldn’t make you feel a bit better by giving you something to stab.
But I’m satisfied that you’re doing okay now 🙂
Thanks I was just trying to seduce Karen
“Deagel. . . ”
Satanists?
Yes.
Pagans.
If they can lower the average life expectancy, which I think they succeed in, lets say about 5 to 10 years, mostly in the older age group, that saves a lot money. And if you replace the older white people with blacks and browns (they plan to replace the one million plus dead white Ukrainians with third worlders) with no rights who at least bring a little profit its a win for them. In comparison to the open Nazi Holocaust this silent long winded Holocaust, not even registered by most of its victims, is genius.