Net Zero by 2050, not going to happen

I don’t think we’re going to see zero CO2 emissions by 2050. The main reason I don’t believe in it, is because we don’t have the metals we need to do it. You can find a good up to date summary of the peak copper problem here. Basically, our wind turbines and solar panels require 5-10 times as much copper to produce electricity as fossil fuels do and the world as a whole needs four times as much copper as we can find in the ground.

Copper, lithium and other scarce elements will just at some point force limits to growth. By 2035, global copper production is expected to be 15% below where it is today. Gold has beat the S&P 500 over the past thirty years, it may now be copper’s turn to do the same, as the age of economic growth nears its end.

There are other limits we face of course, like soil, oil, water and sand. Our hydroelectric dams depend on there being enough water to generate electricity. If the glaciers melt and the water is not there, the dams can’t generate electricity when we need it. If the soil erodes, we can’t grow the biofuels we need.

It’s not happening

But every once in a while, I need to perform a reality check. Maybe you think I’m too pessimistic, but have a look at this for me:

Does this look to you, like a graph trending towards zero by 2050? That’s when the EU wants to have net zero emissions of greenhouse gasses. I’m all in favor of net zero, but I don’t see how we’re supposed to achieve it on the current trajectory.

The reality is that in the first quarter of 2025, emissions are up by 3.4% compared to a year previously. For the second quarter, they’re down by 0.4%. That means that for the first half of 2025, they’re actually up by 1.9%. You could say “hey, the weather was cold! I was in the pool!” if this was just the first quarter of 2025. But with the second quarter added, it’s clear that something’s not going according to plan.

Between Q2 2023 and Q2 2025, you’re looking at a 25 million ton reduction. Assuming you keep that pace going, reducing emissions by 12.5 million ton every year, you’re looking at 62 years before we hit net zero, or 2087.

You might say I just need to zoom out further, because emissions used to go down faster. The problem is, if the trend has changed, we could only notice it by looking at recent quarters. And that’s what I believe to be the case: We already implemented the easy changes to decarbonize our economy, so now we’re left with the hard ones.

So what’s the cause? Is it just fluctuation, caused by the weather? No. In fact, the weather is on our side, 2025 required less heating and air conditioning so far:

Do you notice what’s up? Mining and quarrying. We’re expending more energy and emitting greenhouse gasses by mining more resources from the earth. As time goes by, mining starts consuming more energy, as the easiest to extract minerals are found first, while ore grades decline over time.

Germany wants to hit net zero by 2045. With twenty years left, that means you need at least a 5% decline this year in emissions. In reality, they achieved a 2% decline:

The Netherlands and Slovenia look like the only countries that are somewhat on track for the goals they’ve set.

Vehicle emissions

But even in the Netherlands, you can see we’re not on track for most of our goals. The government planned for 1 million electric vehicles by 2025. In reality, we’re stuck at 600.000.

For the EU as a whole, emissions from light commercial vehicles (vans) are supposed to be down by 15% by 2025-2029. That would require 15-20% of sales to be electric. In reality, it’s 8.5%. The EU car industry is warning that the targets for 2030 and 2035 just can’t be met.

Remember, emissions from “transportation and storage” are down by about ~0.2% for the EU as a whole year on year. They’re never going to hit zero at this pace!

Negative emissions bullshit

Over here, you can check whether we’re on track to hit net zero by 2050. Here’s what it says for the EU as a whole:

It bottoms out at about half of 1990 emissions by 2050. The LULUCF refers to plans to pay third world countries to grow trees to sequester carbon, but in reality this almost never actually works because the trees just die in droughts, or the local villagers just chop down trees elsewhere to grow their food, or the new trees reduce albedo by absorbing sunlight, or they disturb the soil and thereby cause it to release carbon. It’s basically fraud. Planting trees won’t solve the problem.

To meet their net zero target, the EU is now planning on increasing the bullshit portion of its target. Countries are allowed to spend 5% of their target on “negative emissions” bullshit. Greenpeace and other NGO’s are angry about this, because everyone knows these “negative emissions” are a bunch of bullshit.

The reason I’m explaining all of this, is because people show you graphs like this:

Besides the fact that this whole graph is based on a climate sensitivity of 3 degree per doubling, these targets just are not going to be met. Governments lie all the time. Let’s take China as an example.

Officially, China’s emissions have been flat in recent years. In reality however, China underreports its emissions. Japanese satellite data estimates China’s real CO2 emissions are 1.5 to 3 times as high as what they’re reporting. For methane, Russia’s emissions are 140% higher than reported.

If you can’t trust what governments report, you can’t trust the targets will be met.

In Canada, a former environment minister says that recent policies ensure the targets for 2030, 2035 and even 2050 won’t be met.

Air travel

Most important is that we just don’t have a way to decarbonize air travel. Hydrogen is not energy dense enough for airplanes and batteries are just too heavy and carry too little energy. You would need biofuels. If you wanted to run air travel on biofuels, that would take 30% of available biomass by 2050. People would starve.

Governments are unwilling to reduce air travel, so it’s just not going to be carbon neutral. Today air travel is estimated at 4% of the EU’s greenhouse gas emissions, but it’s projected to triple its emissions by 2050, because people are flying more and more.

In 2023, CO2 emissions from flights in the EU were up 13.2% compared to 2022. And in 2024 they were up 7%. Note how there’s no end in sight for growth in air travel:

If you want to hit net zero, you’ll need to tell people they have to stop flying. If you don’t want to tell people that, you have to tell them that you won’t hit net zero. And if you won’t hit net zero by 2050, you should tell them to stop having children, because it means we’re going to be left with an uninhabitable planet.

The reality

Despite all the promises of carbon neutrality by 2050, the results so far in our atmosphere look like this:

The growth rate is actually accelerating, with a record increase in carbon dioxide in our atmosphere seen in 2024.

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LSWM Lives Matter

Hello fellow retards, I am a low I.Q. low status white male with a bit of autism, so naturally I am going to blame this all on the Clinton family:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton%27s_First_State_of_the_Union_Address

“We are eliminating programs that are no longer needed, such as nuclear power research and development.”

– Bill Clinton (February 17th, 1993)

Charlie the Scorpion

I say young man, USAID needed to go and planet Earth will not be uninhabitable by 2100.
Cheer up.
https://youtu.be/sBzWdeCTqwE?si=-95Z_9Ax2sB_SeTP

Retard

Some more retarded opinion from a complete ******* retard (sorry, but unfortunately I was born this way – and my mother flatly refused to have an abortion): Back to the topic of ethnically HLA targeted socioeconomic Cooooooof bio-weapons, remember the nature of the coercion for the fake “vaccine”)? No Jibby-Jab Clot-Shot = no travel, no trips to the shopping mall, no restaurants and no government or Globo-Corporate job, etc, etc. Remember who was not coerced (single mothers, unemployed, people on welfare, self employed tradespeople and other self employed occupations (self employment generally means earning far less money compared with Globo-Corporate or large employer employment). Six figure pay-packets = Consumption, use of fast running out planetary resources, endless air travel, use of oil, da-CARBONNN EMISSSSSIONS. Poor people (not required to be injected) do not consoooom or emit anywhere near as much as, for example, a Globo-Corporate employee (injected). As an uninjected unwashed filthy retarded refusenik, I do not drink alcohol, I do not go to restaurants, I do not go into an office, I do not use public transport, I do not engage in air-travel, I shop in local small shops for food and otherwise shop on-line, I do not eat… Read more »

LSWM Lives Matter

Dear fellow retard,

I recall you writing many months ago that you enjoy having sex with morbidly obese south Pacific islander widows who are lonely because their morbidly obese husbands died prematurely from massive heart attacks due to eating huge amounts of pork sandwiches. Isn’t this a high risk activity that puts you at risk of acquiring the Coof (the fatter someone is, the more virus they shed)?

Or, have you instead now retreated to the solace of your goon cave, equipped with the latest advanced technology, enjoying endless hours of goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooning and cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooming to A.I. generated lesbian porn featuring Eva Vlaardingerbroek and Greta Thunberg?

I eagerly await with great excitement and anticipation the reading of your return correspondence.

Yours sincerely,

LSWM Lives Matter

Retard

The islander women are as horny as ****. They are always up for it, but you do need to take a blue pill to last. Their husbands do not care if you **** them, because it simply means that they do not have to. You are correct, they do like their pork.

I cheat when coming and going from my island paradise. I hitch a ride with a friend, sucking on an oxygen mask with a blood oxygen sensor on my finger and my Visa card paying for the avgas fill-up (expensive). Virgin Australia (Velocity call-sign when up in the air) are always pleased to help with radio relay and other necessities when out in the middle of the vast ocean (so love the Aussies).

Retard's simultaneously swollen yet sagging scrotum

God I love this place

Diogenes

I wish I could fully agree with you, Rintrah, only for sympathy and solidarity I want to give you, but TES is simply more convincing than you. Sorry.

Currently I’m totally focused on that 3I/Atlas thing, even though you might say that these dumb LSWMs have found yet another way to ignore reality.

Is it only a comet, or is it, if only half of the rumors are true, part of a fleet operating in our solar system and currently preparing for something?

What do you think about it?

Diogenes

I do believe into climate change, but I don’t believe into significant influence of humans activity into climate change. If you ignite a match, this has an inavoidable influnce into the climate, allthough the influnce is laughable minimal.

The problem of current climate science is, that they inflate mouses into elephants, like Rintrah do.

And there is the theory of TES, The Ethical Skeptic, which shows an overwhelming evidence how brutal the truth of our planetary history is. Recently he found out the reaosn why ancient structures, which usually are oriented to the Nort-Pole, are oriented to another position inside specific timeframes.

Call me crazy, but I believe him, sometimes there happens something he calls “true polar wander”, which means that the North-Pole is up and then near South-Afrika, for a timeframe between many years, maybe only decades, but maybe centuries.

Charlie the Scorpion

I’m going to try to tread gently here and put in a request.
A few years ago I would have agreed with these numbers and complaints about global warming and USAID but I longer am a believer in any of it. Fuck corrupt USAID, and no, the planet is not about to be uninhabitable. That is absurd. Blame me for stupidity, ignorance, increasing wisdom or encroaching senility, take your pick.

My request is that Radagast, while he’s still writing, devotes a column dedicated to the US of A from his European perspective.

We are living in the Age of Trump, a transformational president, and America has been deemed the world’s Hyperpower for the past 80 years or so, culturally, sociologicaly, militarily… What does RR think about it, for good and bad?

Not just a brief smarmy comment, RR. I’m asking for a column dedicated to my country that can do anything it wants to your little waterlogged country. What do you think?

Charlie the Scorpion

Alright, that wasn’t very good.
I’m a bit under the weather.
But the request still stands.
Seems like other regulars are holding off.
USA!

Charlie the Scorpion

Hey Cyber Viking, billions of dollars USAID funds have been flying out the window for things like
– DEI Musicals in Ireland
+ Transgender Operas in Colombia
– Transgender Comic Books in Peru
And it gets worse, much worse. It became an enormous scam for the Democratic Party and their pet woke causes.

No, I don’t believe pulling the plug caused millions of poor African children to go belly up, and if so, then Africa needs to do better for themselves. Black excellence, right?

The fact that you go to church doesn’t give you superior morality to me, and frankly, people like you have ruined my former political party and you’ve been doing enormous damage to the Western world.

Charlie the Scorpion

Cyber, since you don’t care about money, only saving lives and souls, cash out and go be a missionary in Africa.

kareninca

Yes, indeed he should; talk is cheap.

It would be easy to replace the actually needed USAID funds (as opposed to the graft part); the Bush family could do it themselves. But the funny thing is that no-one who claims to care about it, is donating. They’d rather spend their money on something else. They are only willing to donate by paying in the form of taxes if other people are paying, too. That is not a sign that they sincerely care.

kareninca

I’m not a boomer.

And “people with money” includes you.

In my church, we don’t press for other people to give money. We give it ourselves; our own money. That is what counts. Jesus praised the widow’s mite. You get credit for what you personally do, as led truly by the Holy Spirit of Christ; not by what you coerce someone else to do. We are ourselves our brother’s keeper. My denomination is not political. Christ was not political. He fed and healed people himself; he showed us what to do.

And, Africa contains a lot of very smart and well educated people; more people in my denomination live in Kenya than in any other country. They could produce their own AIDS drugs; they have the resources; it is not expensive to produce them. It is curious why the continent is such a mess; I don’t know how to account for it.

Diogenes

@Cyber Viking

If you are a Christian you should like the theory of TES, because it proves Adams Flood as true historical event.

kareninca

The entire USAID budget was 30 billion. Likely 15 billion could cover the actual programs that do something. Why aren’t the owners of the NYT and the BBC and the Guardian running articles about where and how to donate to make up for this? And listing donors names and amounts with approval? Including small donors, who are poor (the poor are the most generous)? Including other countries? And why aren’t the owners of the NYT and BBC and Guardian donating themselves? Because they would rather write articles than do something useful, and basically because they don’t want to spend their own money. They are claiming it is an urgent and terrible situation, but they are not acting like it is an urgent and terrible situation.

kareninca

Today’s top-of-the-fold, upper right hand corner article in the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/08/travel/restaurant-vacation-dining-guide.html. “How to Choose a Restaurant When You’re Traveling Don’t waste another meal at a tourist-trap restaurant. Four food writers share tips for eating like an in-the-know local in an unfamiliar city. Dec. 8, 2025 Everyone has different priorities when it comes to traveling: Some people just want to relax. Others want to spend a few hours in a museum or fill up their suitcase in the shopping district. And some of us care most about eating, and eating well. Out of all of those options, figuring out where to dine can feel like a tougher task: There’s only one Prado Museum, but there are countless tapas spots across Madrid. The first step is to breathe — it’s impossible to visit every amazing restaurant, cafe or bar a city has to offer in a dozen visits, let alone one. Instead, focus on what’s important to you. The food writer and recipe developer Carla Lalli Music once planned an entire vacation around the pursuit of great croissants. Anthony Bourdain would head straight to the central market of an unfamiliar city, calling it the best place to “get a sense of what… Read more »

Not Tryptie

>bullied Tryptie

That’s utter nonsense.

Tryptie posted increasingly insane rubbish until their presence was a net negative. There have been a couple of other commenters who went the same way, and a couple who should have been binned but who kept commenting right until the end.

Sexuality had nothing to do with it.

kareninca

Where did I say that taxation was wrong? I did not. We are to render unto Caesar what Caesar is due.

You are mistaking me for someone else. I was supportive of Tryptie, and in fact copied and saved a lot of her posts. Please go back and look and you will see that. I think I know who you are thinking of; it was most certainly not me.

I said that people should be trying to make up for the loss of the necessary things that USAID paid for. I’m not sure how much clearer I could be. I would be more than willing to donate actual money. By the way, my denomination does not have paid ministers (we are all ministers), so we have more money to use for real things.

I know loads and loads of destitute boomers. And believe me, you will miss the boomers when they are gone. Boomers are dumb and kindly. That which comes after will not even pretend to care about the things you say you care about. Hating people will not bring love into the world.

kareninca

Tryptie became enraged at me several times because I explained that I had stopped being vegan after 19 years of strict ethical veganhood, and I also explained why I thought that being an absolute vegan was not healthful (it had caused me health problems). I managed not to become irate in response; it took some effort but I’m glad I did; I was sorry that she left.

kareninca

I most definitely did not say that Tryptie was a narcissist. I have never said that any person was a narcissist; I don’t divide the world up that way. If I had to characterize Tryptie I would say that she is sensitive and in despair; that is my diagnosis. I know who it likely was who called her a narcissist but I am not going to name that person since it would start a pointless battle. Please do tell her that I am sorry that she left. However, I am sure she is still mad at me for no longer being vegan. I seemed to especially annoy her, but it wasn’t intentional. Also, I think that she left because Rintrah stopped being vegan; I don’t think it was the rottenness of a couple of the people here towards her. I agree with Charlie that the CIA part of USAID had to be dismantled, and I think that was a big chunk of it. But I most definitely do not think the genuine humanitarian part should have been. I think many powerful people who now pretend to be upset (and now use the deaths for political purposes) had loads of time… Read more »

kareninca

Also, you need to cut Charlie a break. He has been through things that you can’t imagine. I have a friend who is GenX like me and her parents divorced and her dad got custody. He would beat her until she had to be hospitalized, and then her mother would pick her up at the hospital and return her to the father. That started when she was very little, and it went on for years. That was before hospitals were required to report abuse, and so they didn’t. I’m not saying that was Charlie’s thing, just saying that it was a different world then. I’m afraid that your generation may have it even worse by the time it is all over, but you haven’t yet.

kareninca

What that means is that you need to be cut a break, too. Charlie still needs a break. I didn’t assume you didn’t know pain but it is true that I didn’t guess that it was that bad. The people I know personally who are in your age range were in school systems that are good at detecting the kind of abuse you suffered, and reporting so intervention can happen. That is in the U.S. in middle class areas. It is terrible that you weren’t protected that way. I wasn’t saying that Charlie’s false beliefs are justified. I am very, very sorry that you have gone through these things. I can tell you from experience that things can change, even if one is autistic. As far as loneliness goes, one can learn social techniques. There is a book that I hope you will read that was written in 1936; it is Dale Carnegie’s “How to Win Friends and Influence People.” He wrote it before everything was psychologized. For survival purposes, it is a good book for autists to read. (I haven’t read it in decades so don’t blame me if there is some weird stuff in it along with usefulness).… Read more »

Diogenes

Quote Charlie the Scorpion:
“My request is that Radagast, while he’s still writing, devotes a column dedicated to the US of A from his European perspective”.

My European perspective is, that Trump is simply a businessman with good instincts, but age realted with declining mental abilities. He does not play 5D-chess, like many think, he just follow his instinct. Therefore any apparently crazy behaviour must be expected.

The whole left descends more and more into infantility while radicalising themselves more and more. There must too any crazy behaviour be expected.

For whatever reason I have an eye onto Pete Hegseth. I know he is a militarist, but he has charisma and he seems authentic. My instinct say he could become your next president who will try to rebuild the American Empire.

mulga mumblebrain

Hegseth is a racist, sectarian, imbecile-I can see how you admire him.

Wombat

There’s not a lot I can say really.

To stop this in its tracks, we’d need to get rid of capitalism and the industrial-technological system that supports it, but that ain’t gonna happen.

Options:

a) accept it and live as best you can within it knowing that the system is unsustainable and will collapse
b) withdraw and hope to survive

By our actions, it would seem that we are all in the first group, for now anyway.

That said, there is a long and fine tradition of withdrawing to the wilderness. It’s not hard to imagine many of us taking that option when it becomes less painful than staying in Babylon.

There may be ways to survive the collapse, but if recent events have taught us anything, it’s that when you need something it’s too late – you need to be ahead of the curve.

So, establishing yourself now in some place far away from the system seems like the best option for those with the conviction and drive to do so.

Wombat

And look it’s coming undone. It’s all very sick: blasphemous; absurd; obscene, etc. We can all see it’s getting worse and will only worse – the evidence is clear that there’s no hope at all that it will get better.

My advice?

Flee for your life!!!

Cue music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzdjMLKKdgk&list=RDHzdjMLKKdgk&start_radio=1

Wombat

I’m ruminating a bit here. . .

How did it come to this? Generations of real men before me, fighting the good fight, only to get blasted again and again. . .

Do I have another tilt at the windmill in me?

Fuck yeah! Of course I do!

Ha, ha – and why not? As if I should or could care less than before!

One last feckless charge – mortally wounded – victory an illusion, always hopeless, but I’ll take it!

Into the breach!

What better fate than to join my ancestors in the pile of glorious dead.

Wombat

But flee you idiots.

We cannot hold them off.

Wombat

Agreed – it’s not realistic to expect that everyone can or will make it. And good luck finding somewhere outside the grasp of the beast. This is not a problem with a solution, but a predicament with an outcome. Some people with the right kind of resources in the right kind of places may make it, but as for the rest, well. . . But I feel like there’s nothing really unexpected here. Nothing that hasn’t happened before. You are keen on giving to the poor? I’m down with that. The greatest of Wombat progenitors was condemned to be pressed to death under a great weight of iron, while fed nothing but moldy bread and water, with the sentence taking several days to play out, but which he bore well with no begging or pleas for mercy, or vain pleading with the King. . . And for what? What did he do? Well, nothing less than the ultimate taboo! Stealing from the rich to give to the poor: “And there Sir Wombat made a great distribution to the poor in the name of alms for the souls of the said barons. From this he profited little, because God has regard… Read more »

Wombat

Joking about aside, I think we’re probably in basically the same camp, but I don’t think it’s realistic to expect this system to be reformed.

Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

But if little brother must, then he must. We all keep on doing what we must.

mulga mumblebrain

There’s plenty of ‘long pork’.

Doctor Strangelove Jr

I don’t really have much to say either, at least not in terms of a coherent post, so I’ll just write some disjointed thoughts that occurred to me. Obviously I agree that meeting the targets is impossible, especially now that they’re moving production to India / Vietnam / Indonesia. It’ll go up even further– zero environmental regulations, just look at those places! I also wonder if the E.U itself will make it to 2050. The current regimes in Britain / France / Germany and the other Western countries don’t exactly look strong, or inspire confidence. More like on their last legs, lashing out, desperately trying to hold things together… and the parties that will replace them are all nationalist-populists, whether the left or right version. Wind & solar aren’t really long-term solutions, even aside from the copper problem. If they’re implemented it would represent a step backwards– they cannot sustain a modern 1st world country, even severely de-industrialized ones. Nobody in the 1st world will accept the power flicking on or off now and then, foregoing the concept of having food in the fridge or heat during winter, that would literally result in coups, wars, vicious struggles for resources, etc.… Read more »

borya

OK now maybe you can try to explain how THEY think they can phase out fossil fuels by 2050. Whats supposed to replace it.

Richard

In 5 years Europe will be in full scale hot war with Russia. Nobody will talk about CO2 emissions anymore in the year 2030. If you try to survive just the next day or night, have no or little electricity (or energy in general), people will never think of “oh my god, I have a fuckin’ high CO2 footprint, let’s plant some trees to save the world and the people of the year 2100 because the icebergs 10000 km away are melting”. Sorry guys, most of you don’t see what’s coming and that CO2 was never and will never be your problem. Your problem in 5-10 years will be that you have to find some food to avoid starving to death and you have to gather wood or old furniture for your stove (if you are lucky and have one then) to avoid that you freeze to death in the winter months. You are doing phantom discussions. Seems to me that most of you are bored people with the lack of recognizing the real problems which are visible on the horizon. I am really not intrested in the weather patterns of the year 2100 or 2050. I am intrested what’s… Read more »

Wombat

Por que no los dos? War and climate change and more besides?

We’re in ecological overshoot, so collapse will come across multiple domains.

There will be wars withing and between groups, ecological disasters (including but not limited to climate change), economic disasters. . .

As for when, I agree that in five years collapse should be obviously happening.

That said, humans have a good track record of kicking the can down the road. Something might come up. And collapse has a way of not happening despite how grim things look.

These are events that are beyond rational human control and they have momentum of their own.

Pretend it’s not happening?

Resist and get crushed?

Flee to the wilderness (if you can find one)?

Not very attractive options.

Another option might be to get one’s soul in order.

Big Bird

“Listen Up People!!! Attempted Mass Kill Event is Near. If You Want to Fully Understand the So-called Nuclear “Sampson Option” These are the Facts”

https://jeanicebarcelo.substack.com/p/listen-up-people-attempted-mass-kill

Diogenes

Quote Richard: “In 5 years Europe will be in full scale hot war with Russia.”

Could be, but I doubt it. The Russians don’t want to conquer Europe, it’s the West who wants that war.

But if you want to make a High-Tech war you need many High-Tech skilled poeple. That was the case in earlier times, but today there are too few of them to organize a war.
And I think it was the Spike’s ability to invade the brain and do a lot of damage there, which is the reason why the population of the west is now too dumb to organize a war.

kareninca

I am reading it argued that the European elites are pretending to prepare for a big war so that the spending on weaponry (which they skim from) can continue. That seems plausible, and that sort of pretense would excite people like Richard. At the same time, people are badly enough brain damaged by covid that we could end up with a real war even if it makes no sense to have one due to lack of soldiers and effective weapons.

The brain damage is so bad that the “hot war” in five years may be with dirty bombs that harm the bombers.

Wombat

It’s looking grim.

Step 1: capitalist overproduction crisis against a backdrop of ecological overshoot
Step 2: destruction of overproduction (war)
Step 3: profit seeking reset against the backdrop of an increasingly trashed and poisoned planet.

Rinse and repeat.

Unable to meet demands for endless growth in a finite system, the capitalist industrial-technological machine increasingly turns to destruction.

But each spin is more destructive, has diminishing returns, and results in a more devastated and degraded planet.

Conclusion? Terminal contradiction.

Endless growth is not possible on a finite planet.

mulga mumblebrain

A ‘natural trace gas’-we have ANOTHER Dunning-Kruger MORON.

Pleiadian Hate Lord (formerly Fucko)

Here is, to my knowledge, a gold vs s&p comparison since 1995, or, 30 years ago.

https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-asset-class-allocation?s=y&sl=oz8t1TJM0EHBnARhMBl2t

According to this, the stock market has had a CAGR of 11% while gold has been 7.8%.

Don’t get me wrong, that’s not a bad return for gold and not a good sign for the economic reality, but how does this data indicate that gold has reliably beaten the s&p?

Explain like I’m black.

mulga mumblebrain

Japanese ‘reports’ re. China!!?? You have to be joking! The same people who still deny the Nanjing Genocide, ‘comfort’ women and much else, telling the truth about China. It is to laugh!