Yeah sometimes a topic is so important that it needs multiple posts. The comment for which I got permanently banned today on /r/gothstyle was as following:
You’re not a goth girl, you’re just the nerd who was always picked last in gym class. Your failure to live up to masculine gender norms makes you think you’d be better off not being a man, which then leads you to think you’re not really a man.
It’s not too late for you to figure this out. Better someone tells it to you now before you’re turned into some sort of frankenstein monster by censored subreddits that peddle this nonsense.
I would consider this a true work of art myself. It’s probably in vain, but this dude wasn’t injecting anything yet, so I figured it was worth a shot.
I’m not an intellectual and I don’t try to look like one. Generally speaking, intellectualism is obscurantism. Dark age theologians, the intellectuals of their day, spent their brief time on Earth arguing with each other over how many natures Jesus had, one or two. Then they spent their days arguing over how many wills he had. And finally, they spent their days arguing over how many “energies” he had.
And to an outsider, some heathen king in Lithuania at the time, this would have sounded like bullshit. “We get it, you like this Jesus guy and you believe that he’s going to bail you out for your own actions on Earth after your death.”
But would such a heathen king have had anything useful to say on these theological debates? No, because you have to be completely immersed in the dark age Christian worldview, for any of these debates to mean anything.
Even to today’s Christians, these debates mean nothing. A Mormon missionary can’t tell you whether he believes Jesus has one or two natures. These things mean nothing to him, he has to look up the answer on Wikipedia first. Even other aspects of early Christianity, like the trinity, don’t really mean anything to us, whereas they were the most important controversy at the time among early medieval Christian intellectuals.
Christians will tell you “oh yeah the trinity, yeah I believe in that” because they have it in the back of their head that this is something they’re supposed to believe in, but why they believe in it, what it means and why it is important are things they probably can’t explain to you.
The same is true for these gender debates. They would not mean anything to people a hundred years ago, they won’t mean anything to whatever people are born a hundred years from now. But today, they’re the most important thing in the world, on everyone’s mind. And even I can’t escape it, as I run into these skinny nerds who pretend to be goth girls every time I want to look at a sexy goth girl.
And so when some ugly dyke called Judith Butler at a college in America makes a living writing books full of semantics games about sex and gender and how these two things are different and how gender is performative etc, I look at this like a medieval Lithuanian pagan king would look at it: “I get it, you hate being a woman, because you’re ugly and you look like a man. That doesn’t mean you’re not a woman, it just means you’re an ugly woman who looks like a man.”
And so when people throw these theories at me about how you can be “born into a woman’s body” and what have you not, my only response is: This stuff isn’t worth debunking. I can’t debunk Chris Chan’s theories about how the different dimensions are soon going to merge leading to his Sonichu cartoon drawings becoming real either. I wouldn’t know how to go about it, because he’s just too far gone.
That doesn’t mean you have something useful to say. That generally means you’re too far detached from practical reality for me to engage in a meaningful discussion with you. When a low status white male shows up here to my comment section, insisting that CO2 was higher in our atmosphere in the past, I can sigh and write a meaningful response, because he’s at least interacting with reality. I can explain to him that:
- The sun was less bright back then, so temperatures were not as high as they would be at that concentration today.
- Even if CO2 was higher back then, that doesn’t mean we would benefit. I’m pretty happy that malaria mosquitoes and creepy worms in the soil that crawl into your body when you step on them, or creepy flies that lay larvae in your skin can’t survive in the Netherlands due to our cold winter.
- The big problem isn’t the destination, it’s the speed of the journey. We can’t migrate billions of people around the planet within a few decades without chaos and war.
You can’t really do that with the troony tunes, because they’re not really making empirical claims. Rather, their claims are metaphysical. Their claims are about the nature of reality. There’s no more debunking that you’re born into the “wrong body”, than there is debunking that Jesus had “two energies”. All you can do to them is remind these people of practical reality and remind them of what they’re actually doing to themselves: They’re turning themselves into science fair projects for surgeons.
And that’s the frightening thing to me. It is apparently possible, to convince a teenage girl that she is actually a guy and that she should have a fake penis made out of her forearm skin installed between her legs by a surgeon. Even scarier I guess, is the fact that the surgeon can believe this is in his patient’s best interest.
The only useful thing we learned from the “gender debate” is the fact that people can apparently be convinced of anything, as long as the idea in question becomes associated with power and status. There is no straight pride, there is no low status white male pride, so these groups are not associated with power and status in the minds of people.
You can insist that your parade is “against oppression and discrimination”, but the only thing people see at an instinctive level is that you’re now in power. And human beings adjust to the norms of whatever group seems to be in power. The Dutch became antisemitic during the German occupation, because they lived in a society where antisemites were in power. We had fascists, sure, but they had Jewish party members. Young people who see that it’s cool to get neutered, will want to get neutered.
The other bizarre thing you’ll notice is that it isn’t really effectively possible for people to stop any of this. There’s a particular corner of society where these ideas originate, they then spread across the left like an oil spill and eventually they become societal orthodoxy.
Today it somehow became societal orthodoxy that porn-addicted male nerds and losers who were picked last in gym class are actually women, whereas ugly overweight teenage girls are actually non-binary and self-injuring suicidal teenage girls who were sexually abused as children or became addicted to gay hentai are actually men. It is the most bizarre thing I can think of, but this is now what you are expected to believe. For me to not believe this, makes me just another nazi in most hip and cool young people’s eyes.
Within a few years, “conservatives” went from never having heard of any of this, to arguing that they tolerate the latest new experiment that escaped from the isle of Doctor Moreau, but don’t want their kindergarten children to be taught to sign up for his experiments too.
You would imagine that the regular dumb schmucks who make up most of the human species, would at least still have the power to stop a bunch of clowns from teaching their daughter how cool it is to have her breasts amputated and have a fake penis made from her forearm. But they don’t have that power. Their kindergartners are going to be asked to think of which of the 12 genders they identify with and there is exactly nothing they can do to stop this.
You have to wonder: If you don’t have that very basic power, to stop a group of freaks from trying to convince your children to be neutered, what power DO you have? None. Zilch. That’s ultimately the main reason people are so eager to witness societal collapse. They desperately want to gain some sort of meaningful control over their own communities again.
The way this is framed, is that if you don’t want to play along with this delusion, you want “trans genocide”. But “trans” is not an ethnic group. There is no Troonystan on the map.
Rather, there are just delusions people have and for whatever reason, this delusion become a publicly celebrated one. The human mind can produce a lot of delusions and importantly, if you put a bunch of people together who share a delusion, they can convince other people of their delusion too.
We have people who believe they are actually handicapped, who want to have a leg amputated. In a few cases surgeons went along with this, thinking it would be in their patient’s best interest apparently. We also have people who believe they have already died. We have people who believe they have multiple personalities inside of them. We have people who believe their body is made of machinery. We have people who believe their family were replaced with doubles. We have people who believe they are actually the messiah.
And for whatever reason, society didn’t lump the people who think they’re actually the opposite gender in with these other delusions. I’m not (yet?) accused of “transamputee genocide” when I say doctors shouldn’t amputate healthy limbs. No, society began actively facilitating these people’s delusions. That is a cruelty that boggles my mind.
There is no bisexual woman on the planet who thinks to herself: “Yeah I don’t want to suck the dick of the skinny nerd who was always picked last in gym class, but a transbian, that is, a skinny nerd who was always picked last in gym class, became depressed and then decided to inject estrogen and have his penis turned into a fake vagina, yeah I would love nothing more than to spend the whole night licking his fake clitoris!”
It doesn’t exist. The main reasons you get all these young women who play along with this whole transgender and pride stuff seems to be because:
- Young women tend to adjust to whatever social norms seem dominant. Good luck even finding a woman to date who isn’t into pride marches and drag queens, unless you want to date a religious woman.
- Seeing some nerd desperately pretend to be a woman makes them feel happier about being women themselves.
- This is the saddest aspect: Women clearly just love to see male losers humiliated. The males of most species fight each other and they do it so that the females can see which one is fittest. To see these skinny nerds dress up like goth chicks is like the cherry on top of seeing them pushed into lockers by the jocks back in high school.
The easiest heuristic to determine whether a movement is leftist or not, is to just ask yourself: Is it cruel? The Soviet Union and Maoist China are full of endless anecdotes of cruelty. Spain during the civil war faced similar cruelty.
This whole habit of convincing depressed nerds and losers that they are actually the opposite gender is cruel. It leaves people with mangled bodies that they have to spend the rest of their lives in.
The fact that this is now such a big thing, the most cherished value of the modern Western left, more important than fair wages, more important than wealth inequality, more important than preserving the Holocene, seems to tells us something about the metaphysical nature of the movement we are dealing with. You always need to keep a comfortable intellectual distance from any ideology that endorses mutilating children’s genitals.
It would be seductive to say that this is just a progressive error, which show up from time to time. Prohibition of alcohol was once a cherished progressive value, as was eugenics. Sometimes the left just wholeheartedly embraces something stupid, that sounded like a good idea.
But the left has never before really screwed up so severely that a bunch of children had their genitals turned into science experiments for nerds with 12 years of medical school under their belt. That’s a whole different kind of cruelty than just shooting people and throwing their bodies into a ditch. Something that evil has never before happened and I’m trying to figure out what the metaphysical lesson to draw from it is.