LSWMs, just checking here…
you all realize how horrifying this is, right?
The EU parliament just voted to deliver Taurus missiles to Ukraine and for Ukraine to be allowed to use those missiles deep inside Russian territory, on strategic Russian targets.
Putin has already warned that would basically put the EU at war with Russia.
We’ve never seen a situation like this. Remember the hissy fit the Americans threw when the Soviets were putting missiles on Cuba? We call that the Cuban missile crisis. Now we’re expecting the Russians to just keep fighting with one hand tied behind their back, as Ukraine gets its missiles to hit Russian targets deep inside Russia.
What’s the exit strategy here exactly? Expecting Russia to say “ok Ukraine, you won, we withdraw from your country”? You know that’s not going to happen right? You realize Putin and the oligarchs around him can’t explain half a million dead Russian soldiers to his people, with nothing to gain from it, right?
They have the big bomb and you’re a moron if you expect they’re never going to use it.
You know how guys act in places where everyone has a gun, right? You act very respectful towards anyone you meet. You try to avoid conflict, you avoid looking like you’re insulting someone and if someone insults you, you just take it, you don’t escalate.
What do people think is going to happen, if Russia sees a bunch of missiles coming in and can’t tell whether these are nuclear missiles or not?
What do people think is going to happen, if Ukraine’s missiles strike places where nuclear weapons are located? Ukraine probably doesn’t even know where they are located, so they could hit them by accident.
People want a ceasefire in Gaza. Fine with me, when I realized that Hamas fakes the polls that show most Palestinians supporting Hamas, I began to feel sorry for them too.
But how about this: A ceasefire in Ukraine?
How about just freezing the conflict, Putin can tell his destroyed nation that he conquered some territory, Ukrainians can have some semblance of normality to their lives again. They’ll never be stupid enough to try it again, if this is where the lines are frozen. They won’t even have the manpower to try something again, for the next decade or so.
Do we HAVE to keep this going, until Ukraine has reconquered all those provinces the Russians stole, where all the people have already fled anyway? Let Putin keep those shithole provinces where nobody wants to live and where you now have a bunch of unexploded ammunition and some elderly grandmas left.
Do twenty year old guys living in Kiev really want to die in a ditch to liberate Bumfuck nowhere, Luhansk?
If you’re a young Ukrainian guy, you want to live in a place like Kiev or Lviv, not Tavilzhanka.
This is of course half the problem. Ukraine is running out of people willing to die for this. To win, they now need a bunch of big explosives that you can control with just a small number of people.
But is there nobody, who realizes how insane the world has gotten? The whole Internet is just filled with AI bots now, if you browse Reddit you notice that people are just arguing with what are very obvious AI bots.
There are new viruses popping up in our species, that destroy your brain. SARS2, monkeypox, H5N1, these are viruses that will damage your brain. Your first SARS2 infection shaves 3 IQ points off your brain, the second robs another 2 points. That’s why everyone acts so insane now.
The Dutch king announced a few days ago in his annual speech that we’ll need to prepare ourselves for blackouts and water shortages.
And on top of this we have a situation devolving into nuclear war in Eastern Europe.
Well, at least the good part is I live in Rotterdam. In a nuclear war between NATO and Russia, Russia would hit Rotterdam first, it’s where most of Europe’s fossil fuels are located. I probably wouldn’t notice my death, it would just be suddenly over for me.
The rest of you LSWMs would then see the news, visit my site to see what I have to say, but I would have nothing to say, BECAUSE I WOULD BE DEAD.
It really wasn’t like this in the past. It was not this insane. Sure, things were tense during the Cuban missile crisis, but in the 80’s we didn’t give the Taliban rockets they can shoot at major Russian cities, did we?
Note, I don’t care what women, brown people or HSWMs have to say about any of this. Women’s role in the first world war consisted of handing out feathers to men who refused to spend their last days in the trenches. Brown people have an easy way out: Just go back to the country you came from, nobody is going to bother nuking Africa or some pile of sand somewhere. Nothing personal, just calling a spade a spade.
And finally, HSWMs caused this mess. The Dutch voted against the association treaty with Ukraine, that was a prelude to eventual EU and NATO membership. I was among the very first to sign the petition for that referendum. But of course the referendum was overruled, Rutte just ignored it.
I’m sorry to the Ukrainians, I wouldn’t want my country to be a Russian puppet state either. But you know what I don’t feel like doing? Risking nuclear war over this, sorry.
You have to draw a line somewhere, that line is Russia attacking a NATO member state. I thought everyone understood that, I thought that’s what we had the treaty for, I honestly don’t understand why we’re suddenly willing to risk everything over Ukraine apparently.
And honestly, I can’t really imagine dying for your country in general, in this day and age.
Imagine tomorrow Belgium announced they’re going to annex Limburg and Zeeuws Vlaanderen, two Catholic parts of the country that were more pro-Belgium in the past. All of this became irrelevant after the first world war, but until that time, we had some half-serious territorial disputes.
You know what I would do? I would not volunteer to fight Belgium. Haha, I need to defend the country that let 4 million immigrants in? You think I care about some borders on a map somewhere down south, when I’m now an ethnic minority, in the city my family has lived in for generations?
Do you think I’m going to give my life, for borders that will be irrelevant in fifty years, when everyone is fleeing the encroaching desert?
Honestly, even the Belgian independence war was stupid. Your independence lasted for what, a hundred years? In 1831 you became independent, then you had two period of occupation by the Germans, then after 1945 you became a district of the European Union. Now your cities are the same mix of African colonials, MENA labor migrants and asylum seekers as Dutch cities are.
You give your life, for a country where you can’t afford to reproduce. When veterans of the first world war returned home victorious they’d have 8 or 9 children. In Ukraine they have 1 child per woman and that child is being drafted for a bullshit war against another country, Russia, where the non-Muslims also have 1 child per woman.
I really don’t expect much of our politicians. Global warming, they failed at that, this planet will be a desert before I’m old. But not ending up in a bullshit war with Russia over some bullshit villages in bumfuck nowhere Ukraine? Is that too much to ask?
Really, none of these idiots were able to just work out some alternative, where Ukraine is a kind of neutral country not part of NATO or Russia’s sphere?
Twenty-five years ago, the idea was that Russia might someday become a part of the EU. Well you all screwed that one up.
It’s like there’s a rabid dog out there in a tunnel somewhere and these morons are walking down the tunnel and I shout: “Careful, it’s a rabid dog!” And these morons respond with: “Well this is a public road and I’m a tax-paying citizen so I am entirely in my right to walk down this tunnel and this dog has no right to- OW OW”
It’s a rabid dog. I don’t care if you think Ukraine is a sovereign nation state that has a right to decide its own affairs without foreign interference and yadda yadda. I know this whole post-Westphalian sovereign nation state principle. You know what I also know? That it’s just another arbitrary invention of human beings.
I don’t care what they taught you at political science, the council on foreign relations or some think tank or party member congress you attended. Power is power, but in the west, we pretend that our power is not just power. The whole world recognizes that when we speak of “democracy”, we speak of developed service economies within the American empire. And that’s all fine, but it becomes a problem when we start believing our own rhetoric.
Democracy is a joke, it’s a lubricant that oils the machine. These “civil liberties” mean entirely nothing to you, when a new virus breaks out you prohibit the proles from leaving their home. It’s all entirely conditional on working efficiently. Americans don’t even get an actual election, they just have Harris appointed for all practical purposes, unless they really insist on the village idiot.
All I know is that if there are history books, they’re going to call you a bunch of dogmatic ideologues who began to believe in their own bullshit, if you end up triggering a nuclear war over this. You’re going to have Russia end up looking like the reasonable party in the history books, if they launch nuclear missiles at us in response to these Ukrainian attacks inside their territory with our missiles. If Cuba was launching Russian long range missiles at your nuclear launch silos, you would shoot the big bombs too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxk-3xdQIHs
This dude explains that the USA has a new fuse for their atom bombs, with these the US can take out Russia’s missles when in the silos with very high chance of destroying them. So just like in the early 1950’s the americans think they can win a nuclear war. So all the goading of Russia to kick it off. Short 14 min vid
Ted Postol is legit! FFS, the HSWM are dead set to either keep their HS or kill us all. It’s all about control and setting up the Ethernal empire on the planet.
You may not know this, but in the US, LSWMs are pro-Putin and anti-NEOCON.
Not pro Putin… just very very anti-neocon. We have some respect for an evil Putin who is being played and pushed into ww3. Especially guys like me with 16-20 yr old boys.
By the way there are some military folks who think the bombing inside Russia a few days ago were British missiles and they detonated a Russian tactical nuke underground. Doubtful… but no one would tell us anyway.
I wouldn’t call Putin evil. He is just cut from the same cloth as Russia’s authoritarian pre-revolution leaders. And doesn’t bow and scrape before western powers.
On every major issue today a consensus is formed and when this consensus is established it is impossible to go against the flow without being thrown out in the cold and ridiculed. A politician who wants to be successful just needs to flatter people and go with the stream.
The politicians in the West today are generally not fit to be leaders, they have no respect for life. They come from protected environments and have often not been exposed to any major setbacks or difficulties in life. They are therefore unable to see other people’s suffering and they turn a blind eye to human evil that constantly creeps in where you are not on your guard. Only optimists are rewarded but you can not understand the human condition only thru optimism.
Good times creates weak men, weak men creates hard times the cycle repeats itself and we cannot escape.
NO SHIT
What I’ve been trying to tell you.
But you and the Sensitive sycophant seemed to want die along with every living thing on this planet.
NATO (“Joe Biden”) just fired a long-range missile deep into Russia that blew up a huge ammo facility in a giant explosion.
How do you feel about that? How does Russia feel about it?
30 seconds to midnight…
Sorry, but I’m too low IQ and autistic to determine whether you are being sarcastic or serious with this post.
I have also wondered whether your previous anti-Russia bias partly stems from the unfortunate fact that 193 of the 298 victims of MH17 were Dutch.
What happens if Ukraine/NATO/”Joe Biden” succeed in blowing up Russian ammunition depots and depriving them of conventional weapons?
What are they left with in their existential battle for existence?
NUKES that they have been practicing with for decades!
Putin could make extinct those aggressive, yapping lapdogs in the British Isles with the touch of a button.
What has happened to fine art of diplomacy?
That’s all true, so why are you urging Rintrah to have kids, per your post below? These morons have covid brains, and we’re going to have WWIII with nukes. So Dutch kids will have fallout as a portion of their playground dust. “Huh, I saw WWIII coming as clear as day, but since I decided global warming was a hoax I knocked up my girlfriend.” (In truth, reproduction is good for some people and not for others. But you can’t know ahead of time which subgroup you are in.)
I’m not telling anyone not to be horrified, but on the specific development noted at the top (“EU parliament just voted to deliver Taurus missiles to Ukraine …”), that seems to be a nothingburger. The EU Parliament has no role in this, and the German government is still holding to its decision not to supply Taurus missiles to Ukraine. Germany understands that the degree to which it would have to be involved in targeting and firing these advanced missiles, even if they had been nominally given to Ukraine, would remove one of the last fig leaves that the NATO countries are not fighting this war themselves, and Russia would respond accordingly.
The UK seems closer to taking this stupid step, though I don’t know how much of that is for show. Note, however, the fact that the UK is a lot farther from Russia than Germany is – total coincidence, I’m sure.
As for this:
“But how about this: A ceasefire in Ukraine? How about just freezing the conflict, Putin can tell his destroyed nation that he conquered some territory, Ukrainians can have some semblance of normality to their lives again. They’ll never be stupid enough to try it again, if this is where the lines are frozen. They won’t even have the manpower to try something again, for the next decade or so.”
After losing the war, Ukraine may well try to turn it into a tie in that way. If they can get NATO troops to man the line of control, it could even work. But Russia may not be so accommodating, for the reason RR notes in the last quoted sentence: they don’t want to have to do this again in ten years.
the UK is a lot farther from Russia than Germany is – total coincidence, I’m sure.
Not in any meaningful way. So the hypersonic missiles take 5 minutes longer to get there. So what?
Also the Russian subs in the north sea can get at the UK just as easily as anywhere else with a coastline
Image of Iran’s late president Raisi with a pager raises questions after plane crash
https://shafaq.com/en/World/Image-of-Iran-s-late-president-Raisi-with-a-pager-raises-questions-after-plane-crash
Just another aspect of WW3
I am not convinced a pager bomb inside a helicopter like the one used by the Iranian official could be responsible. Just not enough power to cause damage and he would not be near enough to a pilot to harm them. Just an accident like was stated by the Iranian government.
The whole pager thing seems like a strategic error by Israel. Everyone will scrutinize their electronics much more closely and they were never going to goad the Lebanese into doing something foolish, they’re used to Israeli atrocities there.
https://iranpress.com/iranian-vice-president-confirms-contact-with-passengers-of-president-raisi-s-helicopt
Everyone was killed and burnt to a crisp, but two of the dead had a conversation with the ice president. Phone hacking who could do that?
“You realize Putin and the oligarchs around him can’t explain half a million dead Russian soldiers to his people, with nothing to gain from it, right?”
BBC’s been keeping score of dead Russians, their only up to 70,000.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjr3255gpjgo
It’s crazy how you can be so right on Covid but so wrong on almost everything else.
“It’s crazy how you can be so right on Covid but so wrong on almost everything else.”
The call of the pure, unhybridized, lesser spotted LSWM – so seldom heard in the wild these days. It’s a privilege.
Yeah they’re rare these days, it’s amusing to see them
Rad trying to manifest a apocalypse again.
>Rad trying to manifest a apocalypse again.
Is it a day ending in “y” again already?
I guess so. It’s quite entertaining. He’s a entertainer at heart I think.
Or a magician
What is a magician other than a entertainer on the stage of life?!
The wars, and the deaths of all white people, are the primary goals of our rulers.
They’re not a side effect of our rulers wanting to maintain dominance in the Ukraine, or of the incompetence of short-sighted officials who overestimate their own abilities. Rather, those things are the rationalizations and excuses they put forth to hide their real goals, which are just the spiteful destruction of all good things and the killing of your people, ideally in exciting nuclear blasts.
Status and IQ don’t seem to be important anymore. Society is like the lab mouse that keeps pressing the cocain button until it dies
Peez
You were babies (or unborn) when NATO stole Kosovo from Serbia, on the premise that it was ethnic Albanian majority.
Obviously, the true reason for snatching Kosovo was that NATO (and its subsidiary, the EU) wanted a foothold in the Orthodox-majority Balkans, because (Orthodox) Russia was aggressive (lol).
On the other hand, Russia is trying to push back NATO from Kiev Russia (aka Ukraine), its historical cradle, and from turning the Black Sea into a NATO lake.
Civil wars are always irrational; but who is behind them, is a good question.
Also, check the drafts for peace brokered by Turkey (April 2022, undermined by Ukraine’s “friends”), and now the one by China.
Making Ukraine neutral and with some limitations to its armament, doesn’t make it a puppet state.
Good thing nukes a fake then ? “Destroyed nation” haha it’s funny cos Russia is crushing it right now. Also those shithole areas that nObOdY wAnTs To LiVe In is Khazaria, der Juden is clearing the area out for when Israel eventually falls. According to Biblical prophecy no Jewish state lasts longer than 80 years, which gives the small hats another 3 years to migrate ?
Ps. I bet Zelensky & Putin have had pints on a bunch of occasions having a good laugh about all the young men ground up in the meat grinder. They have the same bosses, the end goal is the same.
I was for an independent Ukraine, but now I just wish they’d get around to it and start the real shooting.
Rotterdam is a horrible city anyway.
We don’t have to agree about everything, but I have to praise the fact you also think a war with nuclear weapons is unthinkable (i wrote about it in the “boys chat”).
Also, this (and the insightfulness it comes from) can’t be praised enough:
Quote: “The Dutch voted against the association treaty with Ukraine, that was a prelude to eventual EU and NATO membership. I was among the very first to sign the petition for that referendum. But of course the referendum was overruled, Rutte just ignored it.”
Hunter disagrees.
UkroNazis are worth fighting for:
https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/06/NINTCHDBPICT000659730367-4.jpg?w=960
>I really don’t expect much of our politicians. Global warming, they failed at that, this planet will be a desert before I’m old.<
No, it won't.
The planet will still be quite green and in your old age you will be pondering the fact that you never had a family because you took that nonsense way too seriously.
Yes our masters have everything under control, there is nothing to fear citizen! Eat you steak, drive your truck, all is fine and good in the world!
LSWMs really do just live in opposite world to reality. There is a problem and the problem is no one doing anything to fix it. The problem isn’t people fixing a problem that doesn’t exist. NO ONE IS ACTUALLY DOING SHIT TO STOP THIS PROBLEM. THEY’RE NOT GOING TO POUR BILLIONS OF FUCKING TONS OF IRON INTO THE OCEAN! THEY CAN’T EVEN KEEP CATS INDOORS!
OT, I just had my first day substitute teaching as my newest side-gig to scrape a few more bucks together.
Mein Gott, the kids today…
(It fucken sucked)
(But was also interesting in an anthropological sense.)
https://twitter.com/the4thwayyt/status/1837234784982159417?s=46
Well, the good news is you don’t have to worry about monkeypox any more.
SYM:
> other than a entertainer on the stage of life?!
I meant magician in the REAL sense of the word.
https://youtu.be/Y8P8WXXT1DM?si=9VYAIzASKaPrDV-P
So, you felt no sympathy for the Gazans when 100,000 were slaugtered, including tens of thousands of children, their prisoners were routinely tortured including anal rape with metal probes, their journalists, aid workers, medical workers etc were deliberately targeted, but you BEGAN to FEEL SORRY for them when you realised some piece of shit you concocted in your addled mind?Do you not, really, understand what an evil shit you are?
NO! Radagast is showing REAL signs of realizing what’s going on.
I’m refering mostly to the NATO war against Russia.
Everyone here must have understood who are the ones who don’t mind at all to have a nuclear Armaggedon. The Protestant Zionists who want to bring the (misinterpreted in their minds) biblical Armaggedon.
I think everyone has realized how much Putin is a relatively humanitarian world leader for not using his firepower. The strongest conventional bomb of Russia is 10x times stronger than the ‘mother of all bombs’. He hasn’t even used that.
NATO is constantly testing him (chicken game). He didn’t pass the test. He didn’t use tactical nukes.
Make your conclusions.
(2 Russian mega artillery storehouses were detonated, and Hezbollah decapitated… WWIII is actually started. Don’t buy their lies. You know who the warmongers are…)
I’m glad he no longer wants nuclear war w/ Russia. He’s clever and insightful but sometimes he has an auto-immune disorder where if it looks popular with a big audience he’ll randomly attack it.
I think Putin knows he is winning.
Most of what NATO/US is doing looks like spite from the losers, who just want to make things worse for everyone before they bite the dust. Look at the strikes against the Houthis— zero long term effect. No amount of strikes or aid will make Ukraine the winner vs Russia, it’s just looting the country before you die.
As long as Europe is basically occupied territory by the US nothing much will change
That is very true IMO.
The EU is proven to be a subsidiary of NATO.
Also, remember with whom EU (US etc) sided in the Yugoslav wars (90s).
The famous footballer Zlatan Ibrahimovic is 1.95 tall. He is obviously a kid of formerly Christian Serbs who turned Muslims.
Back then (1990s) the West sided with the radical Muslims, and didn’t want to see the Serbian (Orthodox Christian) side. The Serbs in Bosnia were the Christian villagers (so obviously they had they territorial majority).
Do some research into who were the leaders of Bosnians and Kosovars.
Now we have muslim gangs all over Europe.
Why do you think the core of this bullshit civ has to go to war? If you limit everybody’s consumption by 30% you have a MASSIVE amount of production over for drones, shells, Diesel…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FaDhmRhgUg
Russia and the US aren’t the only ones threatening nuclear holocaust. If Israel goes down she is taking everyone with her, with the samson option. They have to because its your fault they are failing.
Some background.
(I didn’t know where to post it obviously, but it is good background knowledge)
“Apart from the Left, the other crutch of liberal dominance is the neoconservative Right, which is not truly conservative, or at least it embodies that passive Anglo-Saxon conservatism in the style of Burke that criticizes (whines) about what it deems unacceptable—up to the point of demonization—yet accepts any change imposed upon it because it cannot be properly reactionary. So these are Anglo-Saxons—usually not from the USA, as if after their fall (exactly, the selling out of their hegemony to the USA and the entire sterling zone to that of the dollar) they want to enjoy some existence in the world as wise advisors of the future, thus covering up the harsh reality that someone else is now leading in their place. A characteristic case is the book “Colossus: The Rise and Fall of the American Empire” by Niall Ferguson (2004), which has a tone that suggests “well, they’re not as good as we were, but okay.” However, it concludes that the world needs an effective liberal empire (referring to the concept as established by the British Empire, of course) and that the U.S. could be that empire, so they should get serious in order to benefit humanity; he even suggests they should reflect on the transience of every sovereignty to become humble in its exercise, and he cites Kipling (the correct reference would be Alp Arslan from Gibbon) and… Blair. The book was indeed published after Après L’Empire: essai sur la décomposition du système américain (After the Empire: Essay on the Decomposition of the American System) by the Frenchman Emmanuel Todd. (2002).
In a recent interview, Ferguson said that Americans need to rein in their debt a bit and they will be fine. Ferguson, like all neoconservatives, is economically liberal (just as their counterparts on the Left are socially), which means he doesn’t grasp many aspects of political economy. This is also evident in his book “The Ascent of Money.” All these people seriously believe that the thirty-three trillion dollars of American debt have arisen from “leftist social policies.” Have they perhaps hired us in the American public sector and we don’t know it? Such nonsense is said to avoid accepting the obvious: that American hegemony IS its debt. We didn’t see all these advocates of austerity opposing the billions that the U.S. throws at their wars. On the contrary, they are in favor, and here we have the poor Ukraine, oh the poor Israel. On the other hand, they tell us that if Russia goes to war, it will go bankrupt. It was, however, with the Vietnam War that the USA said goodbye to the balance of payments (another concept that Liberals completely ignore, not by chance) and were forced to bid farewell to the Bretton Woods system, abandoning the gold standard and drastically devaluing the dollar. A currency does not depreciate because you printed money (as the Liberals say) but because you have a deficit in the balance of payments. You cover the balance of payments with devaluation as shown by Thomas Mun (1664) and Henry Thornton. (1802). Then they solidified the problem as an advantage: they said, “We print dollars and provide liquidity to the world” — a position supported by various Nobel Prize-winning economists at the time. This means that by waging wars, we are sending money abroad (this is the deficit in the balance of payments) and the world has foreign exchange! The dollar that countries collect (for example, when a public enterprise is privatized or an industry is sold off, to understand why all this is promoted by neoliberalism) is converted into a bond of the American treasury. In other words, the dollars that leave the country return as loans. And this external debt is 1/3 of 35 trillion. Another part of the debt is held by various stock market organizations (some grassroots activists over there), such as insurance companies (which is why the Liberals promote insurance over state support, so that the American government can borrow).”
By George Sivrides (find him on FB), https://themermaidtavern.gr/
I suggest moving to the southern hemisphere. It isn’t perfect, but it should be safe from the worst of it when nuclear war happens.
And if by some miracle a nuclear war is avoided, there’s still overshoot to consider, and the fact that power constellations have shifted in a way that augurs a particularly bleak future for Europe.
Oz has been inhabited for tens of thousands of years which lends confidence to humans being able to survive down here, come what may, on any timescale that is meaningful.
I don’t know if the same will be possible in heavily irradiated territories, although perhaps humans will adapt.