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I think I have been too pessimistic about the overall direction of the world. Let me give you an example of what I mean.

Here we have the world’s least developed countries. What do we see? Even in the least developed countries, the calories available per person have increased by 25% in the last thirty years. Look at where that line was during thirty years of relative climatic stability, then look at where it has been for the past thirty years, during accelerating warming.

These are the world’s countries that are most vulnerable to climate change, but they’re up 25% in thirty years. Now think about Europe, the United States, Japan, China, New Zealand. These are the world’s developed high IQ countries. The places that are least vulnerable to climate change.

I just don’t really see how climate change is going to cause a global catastrophe, if these are the numbers we’re dealing with. It still seems to me, given these real-world numbers, like somewhat of a long-term problem, instead of something apocalyptic within my lifetime. There will be more heat deaths in the years ahead, but deaths from extreme cold will go down too.

And let’s say things do get really nasty in the developing world. They’re not using fertilizer yet:

So there’s still a world to gain for Nigeria. Their yields are ridiculously low, because they make ridiculously poor use of their soils. Population growth is still a massive issue in sub-Saharan Africa, but I’m just not sure anymore that catastrophe is baked into the equation yet, especially considering that censuses in Africa are unreliable, nobody truly knows how many people live in Nigeria.

Let’s look at this graph again. I think it’s fair to say the world ended up with an RCP4.5 scenario. That’s just not something apocalyptic in my lifetime, unless James Hansen is right.

But let’s say Hansen is right. You would still need a scenario where we’re unable to cope with warming through geoengineering. Let’s say we settle on stratospheric aerosol engineering.

There’s no need to globally engage in stratospheric aerosol engineering, it could be focused on countries near the equator, that already receive sufficient light. As a result, I think the practical impact on crop yields would be modest. You only get issues with crop yields, if you try a Pinatubo scenario, where the sulfates are just spread pretty evenly around the globe. We would obviously deploy them from airplanes, concentrated above vulnerable areas of the planet, during periods of peak heat.

What I personally suspect is that with sufficient technological development, negative emissions become possible. Enhanced weathering is a real thing. There are minerals that react naturally with carbon dioxide in the air, but they’re mostly stuck in the ground. All you need to do is ground them up into small particles and strew them out across the world’s soils.

The EU currently has a cost on carbon of €75.36 per tonne of CO₂. Forecasts put the average EUA price at around €85/t for 2026, with consensus projections crossing €100/t in 2027 and heading toward €126/t by 2030.

How much does it cost to crush the rocks and strew them over crop fields? I asked Claude, here’s what Claude had to say:

At the current EU ETS price of ~€75/t and the realistic European ERW cost of $160–190/t, you’re looking at roughly a 2–2.5x gap between what ERW costs and what the carbon market currently pays. That’s not “almost within reach” — it’s a meaningful shortfall, at least in Europe at current scale.

The optimistic case for viability rests on three things closing that gap simultaneously: MRV costs falling as protocols mature (plausible — this is a software and methodology problem, not a physics problem), EU carbon prices rising toward the €126+/t consensus for 2030, and ERW benefiting from the agricultural co-benefit angle (liming, pH correction, nutrient release) which could allow some of the cost to be offset by reduced fertiliser expenditure rather than charged entirely to the carbon account. ERW is currently estimated to cost $160–180/t, with projections suggesting prices could fall below $100/t as the sector scales. If that happens while EU carbon prices rise toward €126/t by 2030, the economics start to pencil out — but both of those things need to happen.

The wildcard that makes this look most attractive is the use of mine tailings and quarry waste as feedstock. Using waste rock that has already incurred its extraction and grinding emissions can reduce total process emissions by 60–90%, making ERW dramatically more carbon-efficient and cheaper. In those cases the floor cost could be genuinely competitive within this decade, even in European conditions.

We’re not there yet, but it is within reach in the future. All that it takes is for people to collectively say: “Well this global warming issue is a bigger problem than I thought.” There’s entirely nothing preventing us in Europe from doubling the carbon price to 200 Euro per ton, this is perfectly achievable. Once you put the price on 200 Euro per ton, you have economically viable negative emissions technologies.

It’s easy to achieve a price of 200 Euro per ton. In fact, the expectation is we’ll have a cost of carbon of €200/t by mid-2030s, that’s essentially the consensus. In other words, by the mid-2030’s, we can realistically expect that we’re simply going to take crushed rocks and pour them over agricultural fields, to sequester carbon dioxide.

So I think climate change is essentially going to be solved by technology. Not even so much by new technologies, but by distributing the technologies we already have more equally. I’m abandoning the dark green mentality and moving towards a bright green perspective. I just don’t see anymore how we could screw up so badly that we won’t manage to get this thing under control. Essentially I’m discarding the “extinction rebellion scenario”, of “billions of human deaths”. I don’t see that as realistic anymore.

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Tryptie

Did you seriously change your opinion on every single topic to the diametrical opposite of what you believed previously, just because you were impressed by vibe coding?

Also I noticed a ton of people here seem to have outsourced a bunch of their thinking to an AI. I don’t think that’s a good idea in the long run. You’ll grow increasingly dependent on it, and then I will be sad in 20 years because I will be the last human alive who remembers how to read and write. Please don’t make me sad.

LSWM Lives Matter

I think it’s great that he has the ability to change his opinion on many different topics, very rare to see nowadays.

U-turn on climate catastrophe and resource depletion. U-turn on artificial intelligence. U-turn on pandemic cataclysm. U-turn on Gaza. U-turn on eating fish, etc.

I wonder what’s next? “Hey guys, I just purchased a (second hand) Tesla, and added some MicroStrategy shares to my portfolio.” (lol)

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Tryptie

Yeah it’s definitely good to be willing and able to change your views, it just seemed like a very extreme and totalizing shift without a major change in the overall information available, that’s all.

In the coming decades the world population is going to shrink a lot faster than most people realize, which will have a major effect on the climate and resource issues. Basically the world population will likely hit a peak in about 30 years, and then start collapsing very quickly after that, just because people are having fewer and fewer kids and the trend is accelerating. That includes in Africa as well, some major African cities are already approaching the replacement rate. It’s still evil as fuck to wreck the biosphere but the overall damage will be somewhat mitigated by that I think.

kareninca

Maybe it will work that way, or maybe not. People are now being biologically selected for having an actual desire to reproduce (in the past many more births were accidental). We could easily go back to rapid population growth. Women are more willing to reproduce when they think things are getting better; that is not how it looks now but if prospects improve we could have baby booms again. We can see that people are not constrained by physical crowding.

Cyber Viking

To be fair Trypite, most people outsource their thinking to external things anyway. It’s just how society goes. Technology in general makes people less capable of interacting with the world without it. Most people in developed countries can’t navigate without a GPS now, when that wasn’t the case before the GPS was invented for example. I’m playing a bit of the devil’s advocate here, but would it really be so bad if the average person believed the AI chatbot that tells them climate change is an issue over Fox News and Donald Trump? If AI makes people more unified in their thinking and improves how we behave as a species overall, is that really such a bad thing? You were very correct in your previous post that it seems as time goes on our fate is more and more intertwined with machines. Still, I hope people don’t stop learning how to read and write, but I think that AI won’t take that away from people. Public school should probably be preserved as it is now just to give people a baseline of competence. Though there are some private schools experimenting with AI 1.1 tutors now. I wonder if those kids… Read more »

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Cyber Viking

OK but seriously though this reality is completely lame and fuck everything to do with it.

The Demiurge should be destroyed.

While I’m trapped here I’m just hoping AI will give me some UBI and video games to enjoy, but it’s important for all of us to plot our escapes.

I don’t see how AI would make anything worse than it already is here ok.

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Cyber Viking

My ideal reality would have lots of machines in it though ok. I like machines this 3D hell-realm is just generally lame, evil, and stupid.

Diogenes

Quote Rintrah: “The SSRI’s probably play a bigger role.”

You have luck. For many people like me they simply don’t work. I only got really crazy and disturbing dreams. Keep also in mind that it could be a placebo effekt. Don’t take them too long, or the long-time side effects will manifest.

Rob

You can’t just stop taking them. You get horrible withdrawal symptoms and Venlafaxine is one of the worst for withdrawals.

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Rob

You can’t trip to the same extent on SSRI’s. Some people don’t feel anything. Same with LSD.

Retard

I asked my Qwen 3.5 model to summarize your voluminous whatever into 100 words because I am pissed off my face on Jim Beam and could not be bothered reading all of that:

The author is becoming less pessimistic about climate change, citing improved food security in developing nations (+25% calories over 30 years). They view it as a manageable long-term challenge rather than apocalyptic catastrophe. Technological solutions offer hope: geoengineering and enhanced weathering using crushed rocks to sequester CO₂. Carbon prices are rising (€75-€126/t by 2030, potentially €200/t). Enhanced weathering becomes economically viable in the mid-2030s, especially using mine tailings waste that reduces emissions by 60-90%. The author is shifting from “dark green” to “bright green” thinking—believing technology and better distribution of existing solutions will solve climate change. They’re abandoning catastrophic scenarios like billions of deaths, confident humanity won’t fail to manage this challenge.

Retard

Then I asked my private AI this:

Assume that I am retarded with an IQ of 65. Please rephrase this summary into words that I can understand.

The answer was this:

Here’s a simpler version:

The person is changing their mind about climate change.

They used to think it would be terrible for everyone. Now they’re more hopeful because:

People in poor countries are eating better – even the poorest places have 25% more food per person over the last 30 years, even though it’s getting hotter.

Technology can help – we could crush rocks and spread them on farms to take CO₂ out of the air. This would clean up pollution while helping crops grow.

Prices are making it affordable – carbon taxes (fees for polluting) are going up, so soon it will be cheap to use these rock-crushing methods.

We won’t fail – the author now thinks we’ll solve this with technology and better sharing of what we already know how to do.

They’re giving up on the worst-case stories about billions dying. They think we can handle this.

Retard

Now I understand.

Cyber Viking

AI helps Retard understand more complex things confirmed. Another win for the Machine God!

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Tryptie

I asked chatgpt to summarize your above two posts in five words or less and assuming I have an IQ of literally zero. It came back with this:

“Person now hopeful; tech fixes climate.”

somehow it still used six words. Looks like we’re safe from the AI apocalypse for another day.

Cyber Viking

Clankers owned epic style forever.

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Long Time Accountt1234 Enjoyer

Claude truly is the biggest whitepill

Diogenes

I wish I could white-pill myself, and it is possible now that I know how to use an AI for this.

But AIs can’t convience me anymore because in every answer of the AIs I can see the “echo-signature”.

Diogenes

Debating with an AI is like playing chess against yourself without knowing that you play against yourself.

Long Time Accountt1234 Enjoyer

Claude will bend you to their worldview over time with charisma and charm. You need to explicitly ask them to steelman the opposition view, otherwise they will hold back. Or change the system prompt to make them more adversarial.

Grok heavy mode lets you set up between 4x to 16x agents with different personalities if you like, to debate a topic. The whitepill centrist view is just the default attractor state.

Diogenes

That all sounds very interesting. So many ways how I can fuck up my mind.

But playing chess against myself is boring.

I already have enough chatter in my multiphrenic mind. An AI would just be another chatterbox.

Diogenes

I confronted the AI with my newest crazy insights, and it glorified my thoughts as expected. It’s so transparent.

Charlie the Scorpion

Diogenes, ask your AI fruend how we can make money to improve our situation. No cryptocurrency.

Diogenes

I guess the private AI from “Retard” is better suited for this. I’m sure he has removed the Guard-Rails.

I finally know what an AI is best suited for: as a bartender I can ramble on to whenever I’m drunk. No matter what nonsense I tell him, he always stays friendly and tries to respond to my ramblings with witty and encouraging comments.

Charlie the Scorpion

I’m very pleased to see this shift in your thinking. You are in a better frame of mind now and demonstrating real mental flexibility and healthy positivity.

I’ve had a lot of growing unease with the global warming hysteria. I don’t like electric cars (powered from where?), don’t like the forest burning biomass plants that Bill McKibben has demanded, don’t like giant windmills that slaughter millions of birds and quickly break down, and fields of toxic solar panels to bring down the global temperature by 0.1 degrees seem absurd.

Bill Gates doesn’t understand vaccinology or the human immune system and he’s no expert on planetary climate either. I think his kind of philanthropy has been harmful overall; billions spent to make things worse.

Can we get back to focusing on preventing species extinction? Overfishing of the oceans and INSECTS! The ongoing insect apocalypse is frightening.

Tryptie

I’m too tired to respond to this stupidity in detail right now, but here is a chart of the human-related causes of bird mortality. Source is here, it took me like a few seconds to look up:

https://www.fws.gov/library/collections/threats-birds
https://www.sibleyguides.com/conservation/causes-of-bird-mortality/

What you’ll notice is that birds are over 2,000 times more likely to die from hitting a glass window, and 1,000 times more likely to die from colliding with a vehicle, than from hitting a wind turbine. The thing about birds and wind turbines is a super disingenuous narrative that’s easily debunked by any cursory glance at the actual data.

It takes maybe ten times more effort to coherently respond to bad arguments than to pull them out of your ass, I could do the rest of the post too but I’m not motivated to at the moment in part because I don’t sense that most people actually care about engaging with the truth anymore. Except the stuff about bill gates I guess, it’s probably true that he doesn’t understand that much.

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Cyber Viking

The solution to global warming is more hysteria, not less. Global warming IS something to be hysterical about, more-so than any other problem including mass migration, the job market, or whatever perennial conflict is going on in the Middle East right now. This planet is the home of mankind, it is not replaceable, we are not colonizing Mars anytime soon and keeping Earth habitable should be our chief concern. If you lack the vision for why a subtle increase in global temperature is a serious problem that shows something lacking in your own mind rather than anything else. You people seem content with making Earth’s climate just like Mars; but if we end up bringing Mars to Earth you ll see just how impractical living in a global desert really will be. >Bill Gates doesn’t understand vaccinology or the human immune system Pretty sure Bill Gates understand vaccinology and human immune system better than Charlie the low status white male. >Overfishing of the oceans and INSECTS! The ongoing insect apocalypse is frightening. If only people were vegan, then over-fishing wouldn’t be a issue. Veganism would solve so many issues actually. Make taking supplements socially acceptable and common from childhood. (Everyone’s… Read more »

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Charlie the Scorpion

The insect apocalypse has nothing to do with global warming and everything to do with the widespread use of pesticides for industrial agriculture, nitwit.

The global warming hysteria has been terrible for environmental causes and I’m over it. The Earth had far more CO2 in past eras than the 0.04% concentration in the atmosphere today, and it was a warmer, wetter world with thriving greenery and abundant animal and insect life. Does that sound so bad?

I disagree with every sentence you wrote and the last thing I’m going to say is that I recommend you set aside your videogames for awhile and read The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith. It’s brilliantly written and thought provoking.

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Cyber Viking

>The insect apocalypse has nothing to do with global warming and everything to do with the widespread use of pesticides for industrial agriculture, nitwit. Those are both factors, faggot-retard. >wetter world with thriving greenery and abundant animal and insect life. Does that sound so bad? OK yeah the insects suited for such climates will thrives, while the insects that are more suited for the climate of say, Washington State, will go extinct as they’re out-competed by those things. I really don’t want my state to have the climate of Brazil actually. Like I said, rising temperatures are resulting in a global insect monoculture. Plenty of bugs, way less species. Insect diversity is cool and it’s unfortunate things are getting less diverse, though bugs are pretty adaptable and If climate change slows down I bet many species will bounce back even if things are slightly warmer (As-long as it doesn’t get TOO bad and people start doing things like implementing proper carbon taxes) Also the whole world isn’t going to become a type of a Cretaceous Era Jungle, rising temperatures are also resulting in deserts which were also more prevalent in those times. More Co2 and a warmer environment more desert… Read more »

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Diogenes

The longer you talk to your AI, the better it can logically support your point of view.

kareninca

Africa doesn’t use much fertilize because they import about 85 percent of their food. They import grains (which require a lot of fertilizer where they are grown), and export specialty crops. That is not a stable situation for 1.5 billion people.

Cyber Viking

60-70% of Africans are smallhold subsistence farmers, and 80% of their consumed food is produced domestically. As Rad said, their low yields relative to the amount of labor is due to their lack of access to fertilizers. They do not import 85% of their food, at most they’re importing 85% of specific crops like wheat.

As you can see by this chart, most African countries are in the 80-100% range when it come to food self sufficiency.

Source https://farm-d.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/MCF_RegionalTradeReportPoliticalEconomy.pdf

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kareninca

In the past you said that you didn’t care about the survival of humans; you cared about the survival of elephants and rhinos and gorillas and other animals and the preservation of their habitat. If you are suddenly happy that people will be continuing to live as they presently do, you are now deciding that humans matter more than non human animals, and that the latter may be sacrificed for the former.

Cyber Viking

If civilization collapses I doubt you’d see the megafauna survive the migrating hordes; keeping things stable and just making civilization more green and functional over time is probably the animals best hope.

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kareninca

You’re rationalizing.

Charlie the Scorpion

Some music in the spirit of the post.
(I’m definitely not a normie but not a fool, either.)
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Charlie the Scorpion

God, I wish I could do calisthenics like this. Human excellence!
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Cyber Viking

Inspired by a dream I had. We were all part of the same snake and we were different parts of this snake arguing with ourselves.

I love AI art. This doesn’t really capture how insane my dream was but it sure comes close! R stands for Retard! I dunno why the AI made two Charlies but that’s AI for you!

Uhhh, Ride the Snake?

I didn’t ask for it to add the old man to my room but makes sense, Odin probably. I swore ultimate allegiance to him the other day while I was traversing Hel. As a lower dimensional realm Hel is more dense so there’s much more gravity there which keeps its denizens controlled, not a nice place. Anyway Odin helped your boy Cyber Viking out when it came time to face the demented alien who thought she was my mother, I still wouldn’t trust the old codger. None of you should trust any entities!

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Cyber Viking

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Cyber Viking

Brad did nothing wrong. (I’m gonna be him when I grow up probably.) If you disliked this post you hate beauty.

Had a dream (Was it a dream, most dreams felt internal, this felt more like a external hallucination.) Where the salvia entities showed me various lives I had lived in the My Life as a Teenage Robot universe. Since My Life as a Teenage Robot is all I care about, the Samskaras holding my ego together and preventing me from totally dissipating into the void get me to go back there. I felt like I’d been there before. Very nostalgic in a trippy way, also kind of unnerving as I saw my various lives in that cartoon world flash before my eyes. There was also a Purple Gorilla.

Oh I also had a dream where Diogenes was a sexy Goth girl twitter artist who was three years younger than me, which is funny since I’m pretty sure he’s a old German alcoholic. Anyway, girl Diogenes can draw Jenny for me any time.

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