The enduring night

Enduring night

I told you before that most of the global population now suffers some degree of immunodeficiency, both from the failed vaccination campaign and the subsequent waves of SARS-COV-2.

But now have a look at this.

As I wrote in November:

On october 6 of the year, Japan had the highest number of mycoplasma pneumonia cases reported since they began measurements in 1999. They had 1.84 per medical institution. Then, on the week ending november 17, they were at 2.84 per medical institution.

So they had about twice as many cases during the peak, as their worst outbreak in 25 years. But now take a look at influenza. Japan currently has the most influenza cases since they began measurements in 1999. A few months ago, Australia had their worst influenza season ever recorded too. This was not due to lockdown, as their previous influenza season was high too.

If every respiratory pathogen is now suddenly causing unprecedented waves of severe illness, then you have a problem. But hey, I’m sorry to say, this is just what humanity deserves. I would like to say humanity deserves better than this, but we don’t and I will show you why. You can not say that I did not warn you this was going to happen.

Here’s what I wrote, back in 2022:

The IgG antibodies mainly bind to regions about 5 to 6 amino acids long, although it varies quite a lot. If some other virus like RSV, Influenza or the human corona viruses has such a region, it may find itself very happy! One of those nasty IgG3 antibodies that made its life miserable is gone, now replaced with an IgG4 antibody that is not capable of binding its tail to the other IgG4 antibodies for enhanced neutralization.

And if it doesn’t have such a region yet, but it could eventually get there after swapping one amino acid for another, then in due time you may find yourself wondering why you now suddenly have a big influenza problem, or a big RSV problem, or a big problem with some other pathogen.

Let me just point out to you what the Dutch RIVM is predicting for the Dutch population. Here are the two projections, old and new, graphed together:

The green line is their new projection, the blue is the old projection, from before the pandemic began. Do you understand what they’re saying? Those green lines are very clear: There is going to be excess dying. And the excess dying is going to get a little worse every winter, look at the growing gap between the upper blue area and the upper green line. That’s what they’re telling you is going to happen.

The governments damaged everyone’s immune systems, they gave everyone injections that train your white blood cells to treat the Spike protein of a SARS virus like you normally would treat bee venom, tree pollen or peanut proteins, as something to ignore. And now they tell you: “Hey, just get used to every winter being a little deadlier than the previous winter.”

They’re not telling us: “The excess mortality will soon come to an end.” They’re not telling us: “the excess mortality will remain stable.” They’re telling us it will get worse every year. What they are promising us, is the enduring night. I hope you like a good horror movie, because you’re now living in one.

There’s also another problem that emerged. As is so often the case, nature first fires a warning shot before the real deal emerges. It worked like this with monkeypox and the H5N1 in cattle we saw was a warning shot too. But now we see a new strain of H5N1 in cattle, in Nevada. Unlike the previous strain, this one has so far killed half of all people it infected.

So we can conclude that it’s pretty easy for bird flu to jump into cattle, it has happened independently at least twice within a year. This means you’re now stuck with this, as long as it continues to circulate in the birds. It’s going to continue to circulate in birds, as long as you put billions of deformed chickens in dark cages.

For the immune system to work correctly, animals must be free to move around. Birds in particular are supposed to be highly physically active throughout the day. When humans run around, our Natural Killer cells become highly active and start moving throughout our bodies, but the chickens in the factory farms are so deformed that they can not walk around or fly properly, their immune systems are permanently suppressed as a result.

In other news, American foreign policy has shifted. It’s not enough for the Republicans to withdraw from Paris and pretend climate change is not a problem. No, as part of the low IQ revolution, America now sees it as its responsibility, to punish other countries for “DEI and climate change”. South Africa is guilty of using G20 to promote “sustainability”!

I’m pretty sure we will eventually just have Americans shoving their hamburgers down our throats and kicking down our garbage cans to ensure the plastic flows into our backyards, just as America shoved these vaccines down everyone’s throats.

Remember, the Pentagon set up a disinformation campaign, to ensure people in the Philippines would take the mRNA vaccines, instead of the old-fashioned Chinese ones. Why does the Pentagon care so much whether people in the Philippines take a Chinese vaccine or an American mRNA vaccine, that it starts spreading disinformation? Why were they so eager, to force these novel mRNA vaccines on as many people as they could?

In the meantime, January is looking good too, at 1.75 degree above pre-industrial, during a La Nina month.

When you consider the entirety of 2024, our planet is running above the projected worst case scenario, SSP5-8.5:

So I want to congratulate American low IQ low status white males, who told us it was all caused by the sun and things would soon return to normal. Nice job! Your kids will thank you for falling for the fossil fuel industry’s propaganda campaign. The American oil executives were all privately warned in the 1950’s this would become a global problem, but they kept it quiet and bribed scientists to stay quiet while they studied it in the 1970’s. Then when it became public knowledge in the 1980’s they launched their propaganda campaign, to convince low IQ individuals that it’s not a real problem.

And you might wonder, why pay attention to all of this? Why not just ignore it? Well, think carefully for a moment. We’re in the middle of a process that is going to result in billions of deaths, within my lifetime. We’re running above the worst case scenario. If your kid is sitting on the street and a car is speeding towards your kid, do you close your eyes, do you smoke a cigarette?

I am going to explain this to you: When something bad is happening and you decide not to look at it, that doesn’t solve the problem. It just means that eventually you still have to look at it, but now the pain of looking at it is much worse, because you were unprepared for it. That’s the reality we are dealing with in life.

You morons think to yourself: “Well there’s nothing I can do about it, best to just not pay attention to it and focus on working hard at my cubicle job and doing fun things instead.” Then twenty years from now you will have a fifteen year old son, your son starts going hungry because the droughts keep getting worse and you can’t afford vegetables anymore and he suffers weird immune system problems, he always seems to be getting sick and he asks you: “Dad, why did you have children? What were you thinking?” And you will answer: “Well son, I saw a meme on X that suggested I am an alpha male if I have a lot of children and a beta soycuck if I buy funkopops instead!”

And you might be wondering, how can we be running at RCP.8.5, when CO2 emissions are below RCP.8.5? Well, obviously the planet is more sensitive than they expected. But equally important, methane concentrations in our atmosphere are tracking the 8.5 scenario:

Methane right now is at 1936. All the other three scenarios, had methane running substantially lower by now. Why is methane at 1936ppb? Easy, people keep eating cows. When you keep eating cows, you keep having methane concentrations rise. Methane has a short half life, it could easily plunge within a few years if people stopped eating cows, but people don’t want to stop eating cows, so we just die instead. And of course they switched to natural gas from fracking, which leaks methane too.

But hey, here’s a suggestion. Low IQ American low status white males always talk about “climate hysteria”. But I think “hysteria” requires you to be worried about something, that subsequently fails to live up to your expectations. Well, in the case of climate change, what is actually happening, is worse than what the “hysterical climate alarmists” warned about. Again, we are above the worst case scenario.

Of course eventually nature will intervene. James Hansen has explained how. The huge ice shelves in Greenland and Antarctica will at some point flush into the ocean, which brings down global temperatures and raises sea levels by a couple of meters, much faster than anyone currently expects. But unless we developed gills in the meantime, that doesn’t solve our problem.

Now you might wonder: Why not shoot a billionaire? Well, the reason is because most of the Americans just want this. They want to destroy the world if it means they earn enough money for another big mac. Non-Americans are not much better, in Kenya and Bhutan you can find some humans who have some redeeming value, but most people are just overdue for the bird flu.

If you can’t get the population to become vegan, your chances of solving the problem are essentially zero. We will need to burn wood in winter, to keep people warm and produce electricity, there’s no viable alternative. But as long as we have cows wandering everywhere, we can’t grow the trees and produce the biodiesel we will need. Those trees are also necessary, to help us survive the heatwaves in summer and absorb the rain.

But again, nobody really cares. You can look at what people eat, that’s all you have to know. I often go to IKEA to get a plantdog, it’s just fifty cents, the chicken hotdog version costs a full Euro. But when I am there, I see parents, who tell their young children they won’t like the plantdog and need to eat the chicken hotdog instead, indoctrinating them into the cult of cruelty.

So we are entering the enduring night.

61 Comments

  1. When you have a new virus on top of what we had before 2020 it’s unsurprisng to have “excess” death. It’s not exactly an excess, it’s just an increase due to a new situation. Nature and survival of the fittest reflected in statistics. Meanwhile, Geert, the Belgian vet, continues to spread fear on Twitter while monetizing his now daily tweets. Your ADE scenario is different, but not playing out, at least not yet (and has low probabilty of happening in my view).

    • >When you have a new virus on top of what we had before 2020 it’s unsurprisng to have “excess” death.

      It is surprising, because these viruses normally compete with each other for susceptible hosts.

      And, as I wrote, the projected excess mortality is steadily increasing every winter.

    • Some gov’t hack puts out a chart and it’s another reason for the sensitive flowers to freak out, yet again. The lied and lied and lied, yet you still want to believe. Something is wrong alright, but it’s you, not the rest of us.

      • A species that produces monsters of stupidity, arrogance and mendacity like YOU, hardly deserves any future. Nature abhors a vacuum, like that between your ears and where your soul might have been.

    • VERY low IQ goons have been saying this for years, as global average temperatures and extremes and weather and climate disasters worsen year by year. A species that produces scum like this must always have been doomed.

  2. Vegan here (obviously, because I’m not a retarded subhuman)

    You are correct that you can now buy vegan alternatives to basically any meat-based thing you can think of. The vegan stuff is cheaper and literally tastes better too. Animal corpses have a horrible stench and aftertaste that you don’t notice if you are a nonvegan; I remember one time a year or two ago I ordered a salad thing for lunch and they accidentally gave me a nonvegan one with chicken pieces in it, and I wasn’t even paying close attention but I could immediately tell when it had barely touched my mouth because it smelled and tasted like some sort of stinking piece of dead animal, just like you would expect it to since that’s what it actually is.

    My thinking is that people don’t buy animal corpses for any conventional, rational reason – if they were acting according to any rational accounting of moral, ethical, economic, or hedonic considerations they would all be vegans already. Rather, I think they are addicted to the loosh that is contained in the meat products, that is generated as a result of the suffering of the animal. Loosh has drug-like effects, so just like literal demons (which Americans and other people are absolutely infested with, in their energy bodies and so on), they engage in this practice due to an addiction they don’t consciously have, but that causes them to return to the meat section of the supermarket over and over regardless of whether you introduce them to the vegan alternatives or how many appeals to their rationality or humanity you make. Even if they agree with you that the taste is identical or better, or that there is no reason not to make the switch – they will continue with their destructive behaviour like the zombies they are.

    And then of course, you look at the fact that this reality is a loosh farm that the archons are using to harvest humans in a similar way, and it becomes obvious that breaking that cycle on a personal level by going vegan is surely important in some way to exiting this paradigm for good.

    • This makes sense honestly in China some of the people are as cruel as possible to the animals they eat and they claim that the reason why they need to do things like blow torch animals alive is because the suffering makes the meat taste better. I think that’s probably just one extreme example of how people really are addicted to suffering on a metaphysical level.

      Like, even science says that stress hormones are supposed to help deter predation by making a individual’s flesh taste worst, but that doesn’t seem to stop people from wanting to eat animals that suffer more.

      Most people today don’t even like game meat, they don’t like to eat the strong animals that were free to run and eat berries killed by a rifle; they prefer meat from traumatized animals kept too fat to walk and fed soybeans in a cage. People today think the tortured animals taste better, that says a lot.

      • Yup, you’re both right.

        It is the suffering itself that somehow seems to make meat irresistible to humans.

        The more the animal suffered, the more it seems to psychologically isolate humans from the suffering inherent in our own way of life.

        We evolved long ago, to eat the flesh of dead animals, we sought out carrion. That’s why we have such a low stomach PH, our stomach PH is that of a scavenger animal, it was intended to help kill the bacteria in the remains of these animals.

        But the world began to decay, humans grew increasingly cruel and now we live in a kind of hellish realm where most animals are stuck in cages, until the plagues remove our species from this world.

    • > it becomes obvious that breaking that cycle on a personal level by going vegan is surely important in some way to exiting this paradigm for good.

      I’m a random anonymous voice on the Internet, so take this for what it’s worth – to exit this *place* the rules are: do what you can to eliminate unnecessary suffering, and learn the skill of emotional balance.

      Spiritual alchemy is an effective psychological tool you can use to work on rule #2. You can find examples of its earth/air/water/fire balance in many classical and popular modern stories like The Wizard of Oz.

      Once your emotions are balanced, rule #1 becomes much easier to follow.

      • Is there anything more sickening than a crude denialist roll attempting to put a ‘spiritual’ gloss on his odious psychology?

        • >denialist
          Very telling. That’s brain-washed cult member language. Critique only equates with denial in the mind of the ideologically indoctrinated.

  3. I’ve certainly seen a shift in people who were concerned about climate to now have shifted to thinking it’s a scam, even from those who have written books about the looming energy collapse. It’s weird. I don’t know how you can think that combusting millions of barrels of oil for a century will not impact global temperatures.

    • It will. But that doesn’t mean that more CO2 in the atmosphere means the end of humanity or that “climate change” is the greatest problem we face. It is possible for carbon emissions to be a problem which is not existential, but most people aren’t good with nuance – it’s either denial or fearmongering.

  4. >The American oil executives were all privately warned in the 1950’s this would become a global problem, but they kept it quiet and bribed scientists to stay quiet while they studied it in the 1970’s.

    Can you document that assertion? My understanding is that during the early 1970’s there were more scientists who believed Earth was in more danger of low future temperatures than high ones. It wasn’t until James Hanson started making inappropriate comparisons between the atmospheres of Venus and Earth in the late 1970’s that “global warming” became a political crusade that opened up massive funding to pay more climate scientists.

      • Yeah, my grandpa was a physicist who studied atmospheric turbulence at the national center for atmospheric research, and helped with producing some of the science that went into these climate models, so I have a bit of personal insight into it all from that angle. I always laugh when I hear these types of boomer conspiracy theories. The consensus for many decades has been that the planet is warming, it was never really even debated except by those outside of the scientific circles and/or who had ulterior political motives.

        • That wasn’t a consensus. It was a few people with undeveloped notions and zero research programs to determine if they were accurate or not. Go back and read popular science articles from the era. It’s easy to find articles about the next “ice age” and crop failures. Global warming was not on anyone’s radar until after James Hansen started fear-mongering about Venus.

          • I think Radagast was pretty on the nose when he said: “Low IQ low status white males will just keep inventing new theories until they die.”

            For what it’s worth it’s not even conceptually difficult to understand the basics of how changing the composition of the atmosphere, alters its temperature. CO2 basically reabsorbs certain wavelengths of light that would normally reflect off of the earth into space, trapping more of that energy in the atmosphere the more that the CO2 concentrations rise. We can literally see the temperature increasing year by year worldwide, by simply measuring it. The actual work that scientists do isn’t usually going to be the same thing that ends up published in some magazine, unless you’re basically talking about a journal of scientific publications or something. I am not even sure what point you’re attempting to make in this case.

          • Tryptie, it’s not as simple as you’re making it out to be. CO2 on its own has a limited capacity to trap IR. To go beyond that, into the political fearmongering and gaslighting that is produced by climate alarmists today requires understanding the interaction of chaotic feedback loops in the climate system which NONE of these so called scientists can reliably explain or predict.

            So the problem I have with global warming ideologues is that they are like all ideologues – they don’t care about truth or the scientific method. They fabricate data and lie about their results just like every other corrupt human being with a financial interest in the outcome tends to do.

          • Don’t pretend like you understand anything about climate science beyond your zerohedge boomer talking points. And like I said, you can literally just look at the temperature measurements year-over-year, as well as the deteriorating state of the Earth’s climate overall, if you have any doubts as to what is going on. You don’t need a model or theory that tells you exactly how many people are going to die due to covid each year down to the individual, to know it’s a threat; likewise you don’t need to have an absolutely perfect model of the myriad ways that the environment of the planet is being destroyed in order to understand it as a threat either – the information we have from the present models, coupled with how things have played out over the last several decades, is far more than enough for us to draw that conclusion and react accordingly (if the planet wasn’t populated by retarded demon-possessed savages).

          • So you admit you’re ignorant of the science but still are in favor of radical solutions – while at the same time projecting a low IQ onto me. Thanks for clarifying the situation.

            My friendly suggestion to you is to not take hard stands on positions you can’t discuss or defend in detail.

          • Ahh, dear-low IQs do get about, don’t they, but always the same moronic sludge. The so-called ‘Coming Ice Age’ panic was mostly in the media, not science. Even then, back in the 70s, most relevant researchers expected warming, but nowhere near as rapid and extreme as now. Congrats-the fossil fuel industry and low IQ droogs like YOU won. No doubt you’ll be moaning and whinging when it’s your abode burned, or flooded, or demolished by a landslide, hurricane or tornado.

          • No, I understand the science behind it fairly well qwz, but I think you may have trouble with reading comprehension. There is nothing radical about the position that we should NOT actively perform activities at an exponentially increasing rate, that are known to cause harm to the ecosystems that support life as we know it on the planet. The radical course of action that our civilization is presently engaged in, is a collective project that will render the earth unrecognizable and maybe even uninhabitable to civilized humans within the lifetimes of people presently alive. People as a collective whole are addicted to a lifestyle that is causing immense suffering and destruction, whose annual progression can be reliably measured, not only through temperature increase and atmospheric gas concentrations but in myriad other ways such as topsoil erosion, deforestation, coral bleaching, frequency of extreme weather events, ocean pH levels, species extinction rates, and many other metrics, and to defend this process using disingenuous arguments, propaganda and sophistry as you have done is disgusting.

          • Tryptie, what you don’t seem to understand is that fossil fuels are what enabled Earth to go from a population of one billion people to over eight.

            That’s the exponential expansion that’s at the root of the problem. So you can call for decarbonization all you like – as long as you’re honest about the fact that doing that too quickly means billions die.

            Instead of that, why don’t we look at other options – like eugenics, which we can use to lower our global population without murdering people?

            But you probably think eugenics is ‘evil’ or something. Better to starve the brownskins than pay their parents not to have them, I guess.

            Your “simple” solution to climate change has a body count. Every decision at that scale has a body count. But that’s not something you need to worry your little head about, I guess.

          • I’m already well aware of how energy use and population are related. Maybe it can somehow explain why so many people are shitty these days, that the majority of them derive their existence from vile black sludge we are pumping out of the ground and that’s gradually destroying the planet.

            But I think your view is also disingenuous. You don’t need to eat beef or drive a giant truck, to survive. Unless you live in Arizona or the Arab gulf, you don’t need to run air conditioning for hours a day to survive either. You don’t need to fly on airplanes to take vacations, you don’t need to have children to continue your legacy of destruction after you’re gone – these things are some of the largest causes of environmental pollution overall, and they are all choices that people make on an individual and collective level that they really don’t need to. Sometimes its because they are too stupid to connect their individual decisions to the health of the environment around them, other times they are too psychopathic to care. You could massively mitigate the damage by choosing to go vegan among other things, which would, as Radagast pointed out, reduce the amount of farmland used worldwide by 75%, but most people are not ultimately actually interested in the welfare of others, especially that of other species.

            It’s funny how with your comments regarding eugenics, you flip right from denial of the problem, to a form of bargaining – your disingenuousness is showing. I’m guessing by the context of your statements here that by ‘eugenics’ you mean something roughly like, “what if we paid poor people globally to get sterilized?” You can do that, but unless you also address the underlying spiritual maladies that are driving humanity as a whole to turn everything around them into a giant machine that needs to endlessly grow and consume all living things, it won’t save the climate for long, because the remaining people will just increase their consumption to fill the void, and because by far the most damage is coming from the types of places where people eat a lot of beef and fly on planes and wrap everything they touch in plastic. But your view already betrays that you only really have concern for human life – specifically, whichever groups of humans you consider to be the most valuable, I suppose. If every human on earth died tomorrow, the amount of death and suffering in the world would actually massively decrease due to the ending of factory farming alone, which brutally kills many billions of living beings every year, in far worse ways than almost any human ever dies. By that metric, you’ve shown no concern whatsoever for the loss of life already being incurred right now, by the same types of actions and decisions that are driving the very destruction of the biosphere we have discussed.

      • So you have a handful of worries about CO2 from individuals. That’s not very persuasive, especially since there was no consideration of feedback effects. You can always find a few people in any era with speculative ideas.

        It’s too bad they didn’t think to worry about the lead in the gasoline back then.

        • qwz180-yes, the ‘feed-backs’. All so far seen are POSITIVE feed-backs my poor low IQ acquaintance. Do you know of ANY negative feed-backs (this should be amusing)?

          • Albedo is a negative feedback which comes from more cloud cover. Carbon sequestration in plants is another since plants grow more abundantly with more atmospheric CO2. I’ve been studying climate science as an interested amateur since the early 90’s, and while you might want to think my IQ is low, standardized testing says otherwise.

            I’m willing to have a discussion about climate science with anyone who is capable of discussing the issues – but that doesn’t seem to include you or Trypie. Maybe Rad can make a better case for himself.

          • If you’re going to talk about negative feedbacks versus positive feedbacks in this way, you can’t just make a list of how many negative ones you have versus how many positive ones you have – what matters is the relative scale of each impact. Right now, the planet is warming faster than almost any model has predicted, and though you can’t necessarily tell how much each individual effect contributed to the final result just from examining the temperature data alone, you can look at the overall trend and get a broad picture of how these feedback loops have been interacting. What we have seen, is what you would expect to see if the positive feedback loops were having a much stronger effect than the negative feedback loops (keeping in mind Radagast’s earlier point that we are trending above the SSP5-8.5 model for temperature increases). So to throw in arbitrary numbers for the sake of example, if carbon sequestration in plants is reducing the temperature increase by 0.01C per year, but the reduction in the ability of the oceans to absorb additional CO2 was accelerating the temperature rise by 0.05C per year, the positive feedback loop wins out. That’s ignoring that these feedback loops are nonlinear, but this generally only threatens to make things even worse.

          • Mulga asked for one. I suppled two. I never claimed you make up a list and count them – that’s all you. You’ve constructed a strawman that doesn’t exist.

            What I said is that these feedback loops are so interconnected and chaotic that we don’t have models that handle them well enough to be making the breathless predictions of doom that regularly emanate from people whos jobs would not exist if there were not a panic over climate.

            If you want to use temperature averages to give credence to shitty models, you can try, but the temperature data has been so manipulated over the years you can’t be sure that you’re comparing against real historical data anymore.

            What you can do is look at forward projections, and the track record of temperature predictions going back fifteen to twenty years are not good. Nor should we expect them to be because models just spit out whatever garbage you program into them to get your funding.

    • No-your ‘understanding’ is either brainwashed Rightwing ignorance and stupidity, or lying, or both. Just what pathopsychological, and perhaps pecuniary, rewards do you get from working for human extinction?

      • Human extinction? Who scared you like that, mumblebrain? Climate change might be on the list of things that could exterminate humanity someday, but it’s pretty fucking far down the list.

        Nuclear weapons, drones, AI, and biotechnology are all far more likely to kill us much sooner than a few degrees of warmer average temperatures will.

        But sure – get worried over the temperature and kill a few billion people while going on a crash de-carbonization push for the global economy. And then watch what happens to make those other existential issues worse.

        It’s funny to me that the people who are first to ad-hom others with low IQ comments turn out to be the ones who don’t understand the issue.

  5. >We’re in the middle of a process that is going to result in billions of deaths, within my lifetime.

    If you’re referring to “climate change” – how do you figure that? Billions dead? In the next sixty years? Do tell. “AI” actually does have that kind of lethal potential, and it’s not going to take fifty or sixty years to finish us off.

    Priorities, dude.

    • >“AI” actually does have that kind of lethal potential, and it’s not going to take fifty or sixty years to finish us off.

      How, exactly? Genuine question.

      • One way is that conventional AI as well as other complex computer systems can act as conduits for interdimensional demons to fuck with retarded boomers and other low-IQ groups, thereby sparking a type of mass-insanity much like we are seeing now.

        • I have to ask about the interdimensional demons: I assume you don’t mean it in a metaphorical sense? I’m new here, but I share the general view I’ve seen you express in other posts that the universe appears to be an irredeemable hellworld driven by sadistic laws of thermodynamics. The mythology you attach to it, on the other hand, is completely novel to me.

  6. The methane spike is from tropical wetlands mostly, not just cows. And leaking fracking wells and older fossil fuel wells. Case closed. I believe the low IQ Trump cabal are also purging historical climate measurements, as the Harper fascists did in Canada. The wet hot-house, unprecedented in rapidity and extremity in planetary history, is going to end all humanity, not merely ‘billions’. As Bonheffer argued, stupidity is even more dangerous than Evil, but the two combined-!!! And where is Yahweh, or Jesus thingymabob?

  7. What bothers me about all these discussions about climate change, is no one seems to mention the weather modification / geoengineering, or whatever you want to call it. I was alerted to the possibility in about 2005 (yes 20 years ago). I was on the look out for it, I like clouds, and it only really started to be visible in the UK since 2008. I don’t know how one can talk about climate without considering this aerial spraying which must be effecting the weather. Yes man made climate change… You don’t even need to take any measurements, just look out of the window, or nowadays quite visible on things like zoom earth.

    • Rin, I think you have unfortunately fallen into the trap of being a soft Westerner. The exorbitant comfort humanity has enjoyed for the past 150 years is an absolute abnormality.

      >If your kid is sitting on the street and a car is speeding towards your kid, do you close your eyes, do you smoke a cigarette?

      This is not the case. It’s more like, you’re on a balcony and your child just fell off the side. What can you do?
      You yourself have talked about this self- reinforcing cycle.

      Same as these flu diseases. They’re here now. Ending chicken auschwitz (which we should do) won’t put the genie back into the bottle

  8. “Yup, you’re both right.
    It is the suffering itself that somehow seems to make meat irresistible to humans.
    The more the animal suffered, the more it seems to psychologically isolate humans from the suffering inherent in our own way of life.”

    I was 16 when I smoked pot for the first time. That time I also realized I don’t have to eat dead animals, and decided to stop. It was literally the first realization, first time on cannabis – why are you killing animals and making them suffer for you?

    And my honest answer was “For no good reason”.

    That was some 30 years ago.

    Animals can tell, too. They know an empathic being when they meet one. And if an animal does not like a human, that is good reason for you to be very wary of them as well.

    It is sad, watching humanity destroy itself over cruelty. We could do so much better.

    https://cdn.crimethinc.com/assets/books/days-of-war-nights-of-love/days-of-war-nights-of-love_screen_two_page_view.pdf

    • >I was 16 when I smoked pot for the first time. That time I also realized I don’t have to eat dead animals, and decided to stop. It was literally the first realization, first time on cannabis – why are you killing animals and making them suffer for you?

      Yup. With any cannabis, any natural psychedelics, it’s basically the first thing that enters your mind.

      Frankly, it’s part of what these plants do to protect you.

    • > It is sad, watching humanity destroy itself over cruelty. We could do so much better.

      It is tragic, and I used to dream that we could do something about it. David Pearce-style transhumanism has always been alluring to me: complete connectome reconfiguration to completely mitigate suffering in the biosphere! But now that we’re running out of fossil fuels, I’ve given up on this delusion, and I now seek solace in the observation that sustained suffering appears to be a fairly low-entropy-state that requires a functioning cingulate cortex or some intricate equivalent with the surrounding complex metabolic structure. The laws of thermodynamics that brought rise to such atrocities shall also bring them to an end, assuming that the universe really is non-ergodic, and there isn’t some incomprehensible Lovecraftian hell-spirit pulling the strings, determined to reignite its hedonic wrath. Tentatively, some of these assumptions seem reasonable, but I’m not so sure about the hell-spirit.

  9. >If you can’t get the population to become vegan, your chances of solving the problem are essentially zero.

    How do you feel about eating fish and insects? (unironic, I actually find crickets quite tasty).

  10. In biblical times they were required to drain the blood completely from the animal, it’s likely the blood that carries all those molecules created from the animals suffering and fear/adrenalin that creates the craving and addiction to meat. The trend now seems toward more rare/bloody meat and we can see how that plays out in society. Side note its hard to take anyone seriously that tries to preach global warming without being a vegan, total hypocrisy! At least RR backs it up, but please keep the focus on the low hanging fruit of the horrible meat industry before you tell people not to heat their homes and fly to visit family, for most people that will discredit the rest of what your try to help them with.

    • I would have to see the IgG3/IgG4 ratio, but that doesn’t look good.

      You would imagine that after all these influenza vaccines, only to now get the worst influenza wave in decades, the scientists would ask themselves if these vaccines were really a good idea, but nope.

  11. I’ve forgotten the figures, but I think that a few percent of the annual carbon dioxide emissions are related to human beings. I feel that the essence of the current debate on carbon dioxide is that we are discussing a few percent of that few percent, in other words, 0.01% of total emissions. I think that it is the butterfly effect of chaos theory that makes this kind of discussion possible. I’ve heard that it’s becoming obsolete as an academic discipline. (lol

  12. Radagast, your single-minded, selfless devotion to the human race and every species of preyed-upon animals is worthy of a super-sized sainthood. Jesus, Buddha, Nietzsche and even Socrates would have to take a knee before the dazzling display of effective altruism and IQ prompted by the faintest mention of pigs and cattle, tech billionaires and red state voters, high temperatures and CO2 concentrations, bird flu and African famines. Please keep up the magnum opus you’re doing as you age alone in your austere studio flat on a meager EU income. May Mother Earth LITERALLY safeguard you from conspicuous consumption, from ungodly-sized American mansions with heated pools and Air Conditioning blowing at all hours in the Arizona desert, from the Superbowl burger-hogging and alcohol-guzzling fiestas of suburban merriment. That is to say, you, wholly exempt from the will-to-power and general madness that have characterized all of human history, are without compare in the panoply of human endeavors, so righteous, wise and selfless, so wholly unlike your medieval ancestors who whipped themselves bloody in the streets while chasing after apostatizing heretics and Jews. Surely, if there is a future for humanity – and that is a big if now that low IQ America re-elected Donald Trump – it will have been made possible only by the tireless efforts of goodly high-IQ Euros like you, abstemious in your penny-pinching wants, in your principled cucking of Africa and the Global South, and generous to a fault in midnight diatribes. Praise be to Mother Earth, literally!

  13. So you expect the Gulf stream to stop completely and it all to tip into an ice age? Because in Europe alone there are hundreds of Valleys and little places which will NEVER be uninhabitable to humans. Look up the Valais, literally valley. Make Earth five degrees warmer. What do you have there? Something like Nothern Turkey today. The upper Rhine valley will desertificate, but irrigation like the Romans did is possible. The other luv side will never ever become a dry place. Dito for the pyrenees, Appenine, Ardennes, Erzgebirge, Balcans…

    Oh, ofc there wont be any Internet. But humans will live there.

    As others wrote. Pollution and the fertility drop are the much, much bigger problems.

  14. this was just posted by a regular contributor at Naked Capitalism. I am seeing more stuff like this.

    chris
    February 8, 2025 at 1:21 pm
    Sitting at a cheer competition with my youngest, and there are five sets of parents around me who are sharing stories about teenagers they know, or who are their own children, who are currently going through chemo for aggressive cancers. Random set of people. 5 kids under 20 with cancer that needed immediate intervention. Yikes.
    I guess if we’re looking at COVID depleting Tcells I need to get used to this conversation?

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