The Loosh Farm hypothesis: Don’t go into the light

Why do bad things happen to good people? Why is there so much suffering in this world? These are questions I’ve pondered for a long time. An all-powerful benevolent God is not compatible with these observations. If God were all-powerful and truly loving, God would teach you whatever lessons you have to learn without suffering.

Any sort of entity that claims to be both all-powerful and truly good must be lying. This is of course the old gnostic theory about the deity found in the old testament. Such a cruel and vengeful tribal God can’t possibly be the origin of all existence. Such an entity must per definition be an imposter. Whether or not this old testament deity really exists is a matter we can discuss later.

We can also discount materialist interpretations of our world, for the simply fact that we can experience raw qualia, pure feelings. How is matter, which operates under deterministic laws, supposed to feel something? It makes as much sense to say that a mathematical equation is feeling pain. No, we’re trapped in matter, but do not originate from it.

I say trapped, because there are plenty of situations where we yearn to transcend matter, as in aging and car accidents. We’re inevitably forced to stumble upon the conclusion that we’re spiritual entities, trapped in matter. So how did we become trapped in matter? And why does being trapped in matter have to come with suffering?

Well, this brings us to the loosh farm hypothesis. Robert Monroe was an American businessman who came up with the suggestion that as human beings, we are trapped in material reality, by entities that feed off our negative emotions, which he referred to as loosh. Later on he changed his views and suggested that the most powerful form of loosh is love.

But I think this is the only explanation that is truly useful for understanding the mystery of suffering. Something inevitably gave rise to our universe. Whatever gave rise to our universe seems to have had no interest in preventing human suffering, as history is an endless series of mass rapes, dead infants and genocides. Human suffering is a central part of the design of our reality, though it didn’t have to be.

This in turn implies that the suffering serves a purpose to whatever created this reality. It’s theoretically possible that at least some of the suffering is māyā, trickery, suffering that appears real but isn’t. Maybe you never truly suffered yourself and your friends who suffered childhood traumas are just NPCs and the pigs in the factory farms feel nothing either, you can always consider the possibility.

But I don’t consider this plausible. If anything, I get the impression that our world is designed in the manner it is, to generate maximal amounts of suffering. We’re all designed to eat each other, to rape each other, to murder each other, as men we have faces that are designed to take punches. And by now we have reached the point where most animal biomass, most living animals by weight, are stuck in dark concentration camps, to serve as food for human beings.

If happiness were the goal, this is a failed planet. So, assuming there is order, assuming there is design, we can either conclude that suffering is fake, which rapidly brings us towards solipsism, or we can conclude that generating large amounts and diverse forms of suffering is an important part of the design.

Now incidentally, this is compatible with what I remember from my Salvia Divinorum trips. I remember these frightening jester-type entities, along with some kind of machine in a circus tent, that you enter to experience our present reality. These are all things you observe in the realm of thought, you don’t really see them in the physical external world, your mind turns inwards.

Now the big question I’m left with is: To what degree do we consent to being incarnated here, in this realm full of suffering? I see three possibilities: Either we signed a deal, we were tricked, or we are trapped.

In defense of the deal hypothesis, there is the fact that plenty of people seem to live pretty happy lives. I imagine being Gwenn Stefani or some other famous American celebrity must be relatively quite pleasant, your life consists of singing, dancing and being worshipped by your fans. If you gave such a person a button they could press to end their lives, they wouldn’t.

Maybe you signed up for five hundred lives in Sudan or Gaza, in exchange for getting to live one life as Gwenn Stefani. Maybe you’re warned in advance what a particular incarnation will entail and you’re then thrown into it, having loosh extracted from your mind, until eventually the circus ride is over and you get to experience the life you always dreamed of.

It’s also possible that they trick you. For a video suggesting this, you can find this guy. I don’t really agree with everything he says, he thinks there are reptilians in the core of our Earth, but the general idea that we’re tricked into consenting to incarnate by being fooled by these entities to enter the light tunnel upon death makes sense.

Consider what near death experiences consist of. People claim to see their families, others claim to see Jesus, yet others see a Buddha, all telling them to enter the light. Doesn’t that sound like a scam to you? Something dresses up as Jesus in your mind, tells you, hey, enter that tunnel of light bro, then the next thing that happens is you’re pulled out of a vagina and get to experience yet another ride on the carousel, this time born in a refugee camp in Darfur.

I’m personally leaning towards the deal hypothesis, based on what I experienced on Salvia Divinorum. These jester-type entities are enjoying your suffering and seem indifferent to its effect on you, they seem to think of it as rather trivial, like it’s not really that big of a deal. This implies to me that there are kind of “guardrails”, that life won’t truly become as horrifying as you imagine it could become.

Finally, there’s the trap hypothesis. To me that seems very much in line with Buddhism. It’s possible that you’re forced to continually reincarnate and your only way out is through a complicated process of enlightenment that takes forever to achieve. Note by the way that Buddhism does suggest you should enter the light. The Tibetan Book of the Dead explicitly refers to two different lights you see upon death, with your ability to recognize these lights as the true light allowing you to escape reincarnation, with most people proving utterly incapable of recognizing the true light.

I think this is ultimately the most important question to ponder: Should you enter the light? At the bare minimum, some hesitance seems justified.

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kareninca

Whatever gave rise to our universe seems to have had no interest in preventing human suffering, as history is an endless series of mass rapes, dead infants and genocides. “

No, God could have had a great interest in preventing suffering but either have lacked knowledge or lacked power. Having the ability to create the universe, or living creatures, doesn’t require that the creator be omnipotent or omniscient.

Mehen

This is another good rejoinder.

I put this one high up on my list of “possibilities”

kareninca

Also, every human who has intentionally reproduced is like a God. All of those people (except psychopaths or the like) decided that it was better for the kid to get to exist. That is a lot of people who share the view of the Creator God that it is all worth while, despite the pain.

I think only Wombat and Fucko here have reproduced, but we are not a representative group.

Mehen

Karen, hard disagree. I am an anti-natalist (at least personally) What gives you the right to create a life that will assuredly suffer and eventually die (probably painfully)? That hypothetical life had no choice regarding its being brought into existence by you. No one alive was ever asked to be born. The few pleasures and joys of this world are fleeting and ephemeral, while the pains and sufferings are hard and enduring. Intergenerational trauma is a real thing. Our nervous systems have pain receptors but no pleasure receptors. Most of what people call “pleasure” is merely the salving of a pain. Think of the “pleasure” of eating, which is just a homeostatic process to sate the pain of hunger. There is a condition known as “chronic pain” but to my knowledge there is no corresponding condition known as “chronic pleasure/joy” If you ask people “would you accept an hour of the greatest torture capable to the human body in exchange for an hour of the greatest joy/pleasure capable of the human body” most people would demur. I have to admit that my point of view must acknowledge that there is hierarchy among humans. The “elites” live RELATIVELY better lives, which… Read more »

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kareninca

That is actually what I was saying, but I guess I wasn’t clear enough. I wasn’t saying that it was a good thing to reproduce. I was saying that anyone who does so is acting as a God, and has THEMSELVES decided that it is all worthwhile. I wasn’t saying they were correct.

kareninca

Just because a lot of people hold a view doesn’t mean it is true.

mulga mumblebrain

You can tell what ‘God’ is like by studying his ‘Chosen People’.

Erik

That is the great misunderstanding of God, most people have Kareninca. It goes like this: If there is a God, why does he not prevent human suffering, why does he not prevail that the wicked win and evil triumphs? It is rather simple: Because God (who is omnipotent) created this earth as a training ground – a sort of Purgatory, where every human being has the power to choose – to choose good or to choose bad. God does not interfere in there, because that would hamper our freedom. God does not force us to kill others – or to love them. He just gave us the freedom of choice. So we can create a Genocide – or better living conditions, its up to us. Or on a personal level: We can decide to be angry, selfish, lying, narcicisstic, unloving, fearful, ignorant, have a victim mentality, avoid responsibility etc. (and most people do) – or we can decide to be loving, to think of others, be helpful, speak the truth, be courageous, take responsibility for our actions, be forgiving etc. Again, most people opt for the first way (and are heavily encouraged to do so) – that is why this… Read more »

Pleiadian Hate Lord (formerly Fucko)

I’m sorry the world is this way, from one sentience to another. There is a particular apocryphal Mormon revelation on the deal hypothesis that sheds a lot of light on this topic and makes it much easier for me to understand and accept. I’ve actually been finding lots of Easter egg doctrines you might enjoy about things such as the spiritual destiny of animals and planets. I appreciate these abstract philosophical pieces of yours the most of all your writing. P.S. Also, I owe you some frank apologies. While I can’t recall every instance or its content, much of our early quarrels had to do with me trying to defend positions that my ego had identified with, as though dethroning a given belief would destroy my identity as an individual. I don’t know what I could’ve done differently for where I was at developmentally as a being, but I do know better now. While it’s always of practical importance to try, I have much less emotional need to be “right.” Part of how you portray ideas to troll is designed to harm the ego of people who actually identify with the given idea, but I expect you have your own… Read more »

Mehen

Namaste. https://youtu.be/AF4UaL08beU?si=H8jWG6jFOqHPL8yE I AM YOU ARE ME I AM YOU ARE ME (Who?!) I AM YOU ARE ME I AM YOU ARE ME A good woman said “you gotta believe” Submerge into the urge of We Deliciously The mystery The mystery One big mob (ah yeah, ah yeah) One big mob (ah yeah, ah yeah) Ek bara mala (ah yeah, ah yeah) Ek bara mala (ah yeah, ah yeah) (One big mob is…) Ooze into, into my noodle East or west, shepherd or poodle Lady bug, pine tree To mingle with the bumblebee A lover to the Sun And a brother to the cool breeze (One big mob is..). One big mob (ah yeah, ah yeah) One big mob (ah yeah, ah yeah) Ek bara mala (ah yeah, ah yeah) Ek bara mala (ah yeah, ah yeah) One big mob is… We live in the city We live in the jungle It’s time to be drinking A thimble, a tumble For everything you ever see Is never more than you and me Give it all — into the beauty of the mystery (One big mob is…) One big mob in one big home A broken home I’d like to share… Read more »

Mehen

I recall another commenter here observing that you are wise beyond your years.

Big difference between you and I (to my shame)

Ayatollah Manfok

How touching. Still you deserve a downvote for being a former Cucko the Brown.

Charlie the Scorpion

Anybody remember the Art Bell radio show?
DON’T GO TOWARDS THE LIGHT was a classic episode. It’s a trick, the wrong way!
Haha

Rob

Some Buddhist sects consider this reality as part of the hell realm, which makes a lot of sense.

I’ve read and watched videos of people doing regression and they remember demanding to their ‘soul guides’ that they don’t want to go back and several recall the same story: they’re standing on a kind of platform above the Earth and they’re adamant they don’t want to go back and their ‘soul guides’ literally shove them off the platform and they fall from space down into a womb.

It differs from culture too as you say. In the west there is more of an emphasis that we get to choose our lives and different trials and it seems to have a more humanistic/Christian feel to it. In Buddhism culture, we are just blown randomly like a leaf in the wind into a random womb. No choosing. Interestingly, early Buddhism wasn’t that focused on compassion for all living creatures etc it was more focused on piercing the veil of maya to achieve Nirvana.

Tryptie

it is a hell realm in extremely obvious ways, how the fuck is this not common knowledge and merely some esoteric teaching of some obscure branch of Buddhism or whatever? I really hope you people are being coy or deliberately retarded because the demons have abundantly made it clear by now that you’re all already in hell (and you will need to fight your way out).

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Wombat

Hmmm, but if you don’t like what’s in the light, how much do you think you’ll like what’s in the dark?

Sullen Eyes

Your opinion about this springs from despair, not a fullness of intellect. You still are fixated on gods. You have not yet understood God. The notion that suffering is somehow contrary to the True Divine Purpose is a distortion unique to your time and place. You should meditate on the truth that Christ, the Man wholly free of Plato’s cave shadows, suffered perfectly for the world’s sake. He is the law-giver of our age. He came to us, not as a man who escaped the cave, but as a man who never was trapped by it. He suffered execution worse than burning at the stake with acceptance so that we might escape this hell. Should you enter the light? You fool! Your entering or rejecting the light is yet attachment! Trust the Lord and simply Be. The Divine Will is non-different from your own will. “Always think of Me, become My devotee, worship Me and offer your homage unto Me. Thus you will come to Me without fail. I promise you this because you are My very dear friend. Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear.”… Read more »

Tryptie

Yeah, I mean you are obviously correct about all of this. I actually meant to respond to you as soon as I saw this post, but I was recovering from a run-in with the interdimensional mafia after I unintentionally went somewhere I ‘shouldn’t have’ while lucid dreaming, and I was away from my computer for most of a few days as a result. You might think I’m joking, but I’ll tell you about it if you’re interested. Why do ‘bad things’ happen to ‘perfectly innocent’ farm cattle? is it a moral calculation, or merely a parasitic relationship built upon perceived need? I think you already understand the answer. Even so, the being or beings who orchestrated our enslavement here, the archons as they are called, are the most guilty of all – they are guilty of a trillion child rapes, if such a thing can even be quantified, and at this point it shouldn’t even be a matter of questioning their evil so much as figuring out what to do about it. There is so much I have to say about this topic, but I just get demoralized at this point. Like you wouldn’t listen anyway, so why should I… Read more »

Mehen

Your analysis was pretty tight and logical (and similar to my own) up until the point where you said: >I see three possibilities: Either we signed a deal, we were tricked, or we are trapped. This presumes that the thing you call “you” or your “self” existed before your birth. That is a BIG presumption. As other eastern philosophers/mystics have observed, it may well be the case that there is no such thing as a stable, enduring “Self” across “time.” (whether before birth or AFTER). That, what there is, is instead merely a “dust cloud” of “happenings” in constant flux. I respectfully suggest that your next philosophical obsession be that of the “nature of the Self.” What exactly is it you refer to as “you?” (This is why Buddhists/Zen types often inquire with the mantra “Who am “I?””) Alan Watts once made an analogy: human beings are not “disconnected selves”, but more similar to the apples growing on an apple tree. In the same way a tree “apples”, Source/Creator/God “peoples.” In this sense, “everything is connected” and we are not really distinct and discontiguous individuals. This leans more towards the non-dual philosophies like Advaita Vedanta, which I have concluded come… Read more »

Mehen

One other thing: I have done A LOT of research on NDE’s, and from the many descriptions I have read of the experience of “The Light”, they ALL describe it as the most loving, warm, peaceful, blissful experience EVER. I have read accounts by mothers who described it as more blissful and loving than when they gave birth to their beloved infant. In most cases, the individuals preferred living in that state than returning to their Earthly existence — even when they had a family “back home.” I think back to some of my “peak experiences” on various powerful drugs, and I can imagine that the “pull” of “The Light” is irresistible.

It is probably naive and hubristic to think you will have the same rational faculties and capacity for “choice” (you were accustomed to on “Earth”) when you are at the point of dying and confronting “The Light”

Wombat

Yeah, I have arrived there before independently just by thinking through the thought experiment. It might also explain why thinking about these things can create existential terror (at least in me), which I have imagined being a defence mechanism left by the supreme being to discourage people from looking behind the curtain – that might spoil the ‘suspension of disbelief’ necessary for it (or us if we are fractals of it) to enjoy the show. Although presumably it’s also part of the script to allow some of us (if we are indeed independent and not just ‘aspects of itself’) to peek under the hood. Some sort of function there. A case could be made that one would feel sorry for the supreme being if this is indeed what’s going on, and one should do one’s best to play along. Does one get a choice? Perhaps full conscious knowledge is far worse – a torture that forces the supreme being to explode itself, and fragment itself into pieces to hide from the horror of its lonely existence. Who am I, who are we, to bust its bubble and try to put it back together? (If indeed this is even possible) But… Read more »

Mehen

Very intelligent and insightful reply, Wombat. Much appreciated.

You said: >But if it does have human attributes like us, then maybe it finds the odd bit of sympathy comforting.

This reminds me of something Sam Vaknin (high IQ atheist, diagnosed psychopath/narcissist, Israeli, foremost expert on narcissism) once said.

I think he was conveying some insight from Judaism/Kaballah, but he seemed to endorse the sentiment.

And that was: “God” is himself “cracked” and “broken” and enduring a kind of “psychological pathology”, and that when we, as individual humans, manage to overcome or “solve” our own individual “issues”, we thereby, in some small measure, assist in healing God himself.

I have to say, the speculation strikes me as having a grain of truth, but my skeptical side thinks, “hasn’t enough time passed, enough lives lived and suffered and died, for God to have “healed” enough for Him to improve this flawed world we live in by now? Why do the same issues and problems repeat? History seems cyclical, or at least rhymes”

Mehen

Also: you said “But in this thought experiment, is this anthropomorphising the supreme being?
It’s not a human, so who knows what motivates it?”

I’ve often said that if a “God” exists, it should be thought of as “alien”, in the LITERAL meaning of the word “alien” and not the UFO woo-woo sense.

Just that its nature and aims and goals cannot be analogized to our own.

This does not necessarily contradict what I said earlier. If “non-duality” is correct, then “God” and our “individual self” are inextricably intertwined in all sorts of weird and wild ways that we may not yet be aware of. Where is “sameness” and where is “difference?”

I suspect both factors are operating simultaneously.

Wombat

Why should it end?

If existence for the supreme being is torture, why would this hypothetical supreme being ever want to heal?

Maybe the ‘masterwork’ is already complete.

Maybe, stepping outside of time, we could look down on this universe, see all matter in superposition, everything in every place it ever was and will be, and from this vantage, should we be able to obtain it (hat-tip to Russ Cole), what it looks like is not a ‘flat circle’, so much as a self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head spread out on the floor, flash bulbs going off, supreme being detectives in fedoras and trenchcoats clutching notebooks, smoking, shaking their heads and making cop jokes.

Mehen

> what it looks like is not a ‘flat circle’, so much as a self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head spread out on the floor, 

https://nealauch.com/blog/gods-suicide

P.S. “It was the saying of Bion, that though the boys throw stones at frogs in sport, yet the frogs do not die in sport, but in earnest.” — Plutarch

Wombat

On the one hand, these kinds of thoughts can lead to existential terror, but on the other, they do seem kind of trite. 😛

Wombat

There’s obviously more going on – whatever I say flows from my brain, which is about the size of a lump of meatloaf.

Seems wiser, and safer, to just leave this stuff to God.

Mehen

>Seems wiser, and safer, to just leave this stuff to God.

“Let go, let God”

Good news in that case: you don’t have to worry about your puny efforts to avert anthropogenic climate change anymore!

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Wombat

Yeah, God does say not be afraid. And if one doesn’t believe in God, well who really cares: we evolved, we did some stuff, we left. End of story. Nature will go on without us. On a more mundane level, I’m still of two minds on the climate thing. On the one hand, it seems clear to me that apart from any technical matters our meatloaf sized brains just aren’t up to handling the issue. There could be lots of reasons for that. TMT, for one (which I really like), but here are another couple of dozen: Twenty-four-reasons-why-we-are-hooped by Bill Rees – Canadian Association for the Club of Rome But, on the other hand, perhaps it’s possible to find those lifeboats – new stories to live inside – transform our whole way of life – some kind of religious awakening? Perhaps possible. But it seems impossible to accomplish that from within the system. That ship sailed looooooong ago. All that’s left for those who try is moral injury and burnout. But it also very difficult or impossible to change it from outside, with no power, no education system to indoctrinate new generations differently, etc. It’s a shitshow alright. I am… Read more »

Wombat

And yes, I am powerless as an individual in the face of the system, I have learned this the hard way.

Over decades, it erodes a man.

The world will probably burn, but on a personal level, I need to repair my life – the damage I have taken will destroy me long before climate change will.

Wombat

But tying that back onto this topic, we cannot even wrap our brains around climate change, does anyone really think we will ever wrap our brains around the mind of God?

Absurd.

“But, but, but – it’s all about me – I am the thinking ape!”

Yeah right, with a brain the size of a meatloaf, and we cannot even understand that!

Mehen

Another thing: there was a rando YouTuber in the “soul trap/prison planet” community named “Bliss” who had a mental breakdown at one point and disappeared for a while.

He returned as “Reaper”

https://youtube.com/@reaper_1984?si=EGuosHFcsOJeinKT

…and his newer, renovated, conclusions dovetail with my own independent musings, a worldview/philosophy which might be called “dark non-duality”. (Although he is not as learned or articulate as me)

But I can tell he is wrestling with the same insights and realizations as I have.

He also seems to be slowly going insane from his realizations, so proceed at your own risk.

Mehen

If you check him out, ignore the latest video in his playlist. That’s someone else.

I notice he hasn’t posted in 3 weeks.

Hm.

Wombat

“He also seems to be going slowly insane from his realizations, so proceed at your own risk.”

Noted.

As much as I like lifting the scab, I’m not really keen to take another peek at this phase in my life.

Diogenes

Loosh – I’ve come across this term again and again. But I never got it. Archons?
Even TES wrote an article about it but I can’t do anything with it.
Maybe you can:
https://theethicalskeptic.com/2023/11/25/what-is-loosh/

Mehen

Diogenes, I’ve only read a portion of that interminable essay, and while it strikes me as intelligent and earnest and worthy of attention, it seems to be warping and obfuscating the original definition of “Loosh” (it’s obvious to me that The Ethical Skeptic is a Christian and must perforce bias his analysis)

If you are really interested in the definition of Loosh, try this:

https://www.jamesdekorne.com/NewDawn/obegnostic.htm

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Diogenes

TES wrote he was raised as christian and lived in a christian community. But then he got doubts and leaved the community although he kept his spirituality.

This whole Archon/Loosh thing sound so similiar to the Xenu stuff from L. Ron Hubbard, who maybe used the Archon story as base for his very special universe.

But I can’t believe I’m a kind of cow and bodyless entities suck my feelings as drug.

mulga mumblebrain

It’s a misspelling of ‘louche’.

Info

Ever since Christianity. While suffering still exists. Cruelty has comparatively declined at least in terms of being regarded as acceptance and in practice.

The Second Coming will be what will soon terminate all evil in this existence.

Wombat

Bring it on.

Jay Pine

Hi Radagast,

As ever, there’s nothing new under the Sun, and ‘Suffering’ is a doozer. Had to teach a whole unit on it when I pretended to be a religious studies teacher.
I think Sri Aurobindo is worth an explore – the philosophy section of his wiki entry is an ‘ideal’ place to start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Aurobindo

Mehen

Good recommendation. While not perfect, he has lots of wisdom to share.

Mehen

That is the beginning of wisdom.

Life appears to be a Rorschach painting sometimes.

I think I mentioned here before that I now consider myself a “radical skeptic”

I doubt my ability to know anything beyond my immediate environment, beyond my body, my physical surroundings, my family. Everything else is speculation.

This attitude probably won’t win me any success in the “game” of the “rat race” but, for the time being at least, it feels psychologically healthier.

LSWM Lives Matter

Interesting article, but remember around April of last year when you posted those articles describing your long thought out decision to quit veganism, which angered Tryptie, to which you responded something along the lines of:

“The Gnostics believe in a utopia full of unicorns, but I now believe that you need a certain amount of suffering to ‘balance out’ all the pleasures of life.”

Isn’t that what it’s all supposed to be about? That there’s some sort of “meaning” to our suffering?

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swizzlesticky

“Something inevitably gave rise to our universe.” I don’t see how. The Universe must have always existed. If it was created at one point in time, what was there before that moment? The Universe.

swizzlesticky

The Big Fart? Of course, it’s ridiculous!

Tryptie

The ‘big bang’ is a pun about a sexual act, and the more you think about what that really means, the more you will realize exactly how fake our entire reality truly is.

kareninca
Charlie the Scorpion

Thanks
I got talked into a tetanus booster shot 25 years ago and that’s the last vaccine I’ve gotten or ever will get.

mulga mumblebrain

Tetanus is OK as the disease is rather hideous. Ditto rabies and smallpox. But the increasing mass of injections for normal childhood diseases, is simply a gigantic Big Pharma rip-off and a disaster for those pin-cushioned, as the huge increase in autism and auto-immune and other chronic diseases in children show.

kareninca

Pretty clearly there are a lot of bad spirits. They are easy enough to sense. Maybe God needs our help to overcome them.

Porz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLOoRW5cxgo

This basically explains that the purpose of our multiple lives is a form of teaching or rectification of our soul. Any suffering isn’t a punishment but a challenge leading to betterment. Seems so much nicer thinking of it that way.

Mehen

“Free will” is an illusion.

Much like the experience of “linear time” is an illusion.

Much like the notion of a stable, enduring kernel of “self” or “soul” is an illusion.

We live in a “block universe” as near as I can tell from my altered states of mind.

https://youtu.be/2eCv76d9G-Q?si=kxO6U_LNaBq9sPwF

Wombat

I haven’t watched the clip (yet), but as fate would have it, I did watch a short YouTube recently that dripped into my feed from some physics woman. She was arguing that relativity kind of does it in for free will. Something about people seeing the same event playing out, from different ‘time zones’, (so I see the past, someone else sees the future relative to me, someone else is in the moment) implies that it’s all precast.

I recall her mentioning “block universe”.

But on that boring practical level, it is clear (at least to me) that free will is either a very weak force or non-existent.

I know this from the 99% plus vaccination rate in my city – personally, I really don’t need anything more than that.

Wombat

With one caveat, which is that if it does exist then it must come from somewhere acausal – for me that is God.

Wombat

Ha, ha – your video reminds of this scene Mehen – back from way before I’d even heard of ‘block universe’: https://youtu.be/vRJ5cCP0ZPE?t=37

Wombat

Ha, ha – also ties in with UFOs that are in the media so much these days. I finally feel like I’m getting closer to understanding the motivation to keep them secret 😛

If they exist.

Mehen

Hahaha! One of my favorite movies (and scenes) from my childhood!

At various times and points in my life, I cycled between feeling affinity with Bud, Otto, or Miller.

That film has it all.

Mehen

That reminds me of another, lesser known, cult film from the same period:

https://youtu.be/DuY0IiXPCdI?si=ApM9Xq7HV6QCN1mI

I recommend it to all the youngun’s here. May we all here burst with vigor into the 8th dimension!!!

Wombat

Looks like the whole film is on YouTube: (81) The Adventures Of Buckaroo Banzai – YouTube

Wombat

Ha, ha – it’s a fave of mine too.

Let’s go get sushi

And not pay!

🙂

Tryptie

First of all, lmao Judaism: imagine worshipping a demon who demanded you follow Kafkaesque, byzantine laws for its own amusement, and then spending your life finding ways to partially circumvent those laws: and that’s what Judaism is. Anyone who is worshipping some external force has no hope until they figure it out. If this world is a school, it is at best a school whose purpose is to train slaves, or which is meant to “teach” the ways of evil and psychopathy. This is a realm designed to degrade spirits. The being or beings behind this realm, are trying to morally and spiritually corrupt its inhabitants,

Mehen

https://worldhistoryedu.com/mehen-in-ancient-egyptian-mythology/

I hereby invoke my “nom de guerre” as a plea for Tryptie to return and contribute to this conversation.

Tryptie

what the fuck is this shit? “protective serpent”? Are you fucking high or do I need to explain to you again that serpents are evil? Most Egyptian shit is obviously cursed of course; visit a museum full of Egyptian artifacts, and even a layperson will be able to perceive the uneasy energy in the Egyptian section. Basically, all of these retarded cultures were worshipping demons. And these demons gave them retarded favours such as increased crop yields, in exchange for these people being de facto slave races. It’s a completely parasitic relationship with unseen forces, the aztecs had a similar relationship with their serpent “””deities””””. Jesus tried to warn you about these freaks in apocryphal writings such ad the book of thomas the contender, but literally like 5 people in the entire world understand that shit. I had a run-in with serpent niggers during my kundalini awakening in 2021-2023 too, they’re extremely evil, I am very fortunate that I learned to energy train and I was able to erase them. If you see a serpent thats not physical, its evil and you should kill it!

Mehen
Retard

After death, do not go into the light.

Call out for domain.

Domain will come and help you.

Tryptie

No dude, nothing is going to help us. You need to learn to be sovereign and self.-sufficient, it is the only way. And you need to learn to be sceptical of WHATEVER approaches you, no matter what it is. Moreover, you should energy train, which I know exactly none of you are actually going to bother to do. Seriously though, you need to train like you’re learning a martial art, in order to have a good chance of slipping past the archons upon death.

Mehen

Related: a compilation of BBP’s (Based Black Pessimists):

https://youtu.be/IwiWVMVT-tw?si=RWwwITkyvINm1Vfq

(I’m particularly fond of my nigga @ 17:03)

Wombat

You might like this guy: The Great Refusal Has Begun

Mehen

Related: https://youtu.be/ZDvijqugXjg?si=VWhEUj7fHUWl2ZBL This is a timely (perhaps *too* “coincidental”) drop from Matt McKinley a.k.a. “Quantum of Conscience”. I’ve mentioned him on this blog in the past. In the online communities which discuss these sorts of ideas, he was always one of the more optimistic ones when it came to interpretations of such ideas. (Fun fact: for those who followed the “pandemic” closely, and encountered Edward Dowd, it turns out Ed is a fan of Matt/QoC). For some time, Matt has pushed back on the “soul trap/prison planet” hypothesis, and I got the sense he was continually irritated by its growing popularity. In this latest video, he attacks the more pessimistic ideas head on, and in so doing, resembles Rad’s take on the issue in many ways: he believes there DOES exist a “soul” (at least among the “awake” who contemplate these issues, which he calls “Real Spiritual Beings,” as against what he calls the “Ship Of Fools” which he regards as the majority of NPCs which populate our planet), and he also follows Rad’s notion that our individual souls do indeed reincarnate, but that we possess a “Higher Self” which oversees our development. Like Rad, he seem to favor the… Read more »

Leo Bulero

There is only material monism. I can’t be bothered to elaborate further.

swallowed

ok but even if this is just the demiurge luring victims back into the torture chamber if he lets us experience this even for a bit then is he really so bad
https://x.com/PeppermintSw/status/2023948980359487543?s=20

Diogenes

I say suffering is an inevitable side-effect of learning because only suffering initiates learning.

If everything is allright after God fulfilled Rintrahs wish to remove suffering, we would be like happy plants, doing nothing.

To say it hard: The more we suffer, the more and faster we learn. That’s what God want.