Look, I’m tired of the whole psychological blackmail game being played on an entire continent. When there was a genocide committed in Europe during the second world war, it had to be kept out of sight from the general population. That’s the difference between Europe and most of the rest of the world. It was never very difficult to instigate a pogrom against Jews or Christians in the Middle east. It was never difficult to trigger massacres in Africa. It was never difficult to trigger massacres in Iraq against the Yazidi and it is clearly not difficult to trigger massacres against the Alawites in Syria today, or against the Jews who lived near Gaza.
You know what sets the episode that lasted until 1945 apart? That it had to be carried out in the dark. That the population had to be lied to. Europeans had to be told the Jews would be taken somewhere safe, Europeans had to receive postcards that said people were well taken care of. They received tales of genocidal campaigns of mass sterilization being planned against them from abroad.
It required a massive campaign of deception, with an inner circle that was made more aware but had to go through an entire psychological brainwashing campaign that unfolded over most of their life, generally after suffering through the unimaginable traumatizing atrocity that was the trench warfare of World War I.
In that context it was possible for these atrocities to unfold. I don’t know about Americans, I don’t know about Africans, or about what happened in China during the cultural revolution. But I do know that if there ever was a place where you need to force the natives with their back against the wall before you can get them to participate in atrocities, it is Europe.
And I know this: I’m tired of this insult “nazi” being hurled at people. I’m tired of seeing it hurled at modern European right wingers, particularly German nationalists who don’t particularly enjoy having children gored to pieces by immigrants armed with knives or driving motor vehicles into crowds.
I’m also tired at seeing it hurled at lonesome teenage boys for what it’s worth. You’re a good person when you prevent suffering from happening to those who are worst off. Those who are worst off in our society tend to be the exact same ones who have the “nazi” insult hurled at them in our modern social context.
“Nazi” is the favorite insult of people who have no clear redeeming moral virtues of their own. The more you hear it vibrate from people’s mouth, the more sure you can be those people have no clear redeeming virtues of their own.
Dig a little further and you probably find a history of rape or pedophilia in the background of the “anti-fascists”, that tends to be how these things unfold. When that guy at a black lives matter protest shot three people, he killed two felons.
This is not my favorite subject, far from it, I wish I could skip over it. But it needs to be pointed out.
I agree that the weaponized and hysterical use of the word ‘nazi’ is wrong. It’s such a lazy way of arguing, especially when German fascism has been dead for so long.
I’m also for restricting immigration and repatriating / deporting the ones that are here.
BUT…….
The rest of this post is completely deranged. Ever heard of the Spanish Inquisition? What about the Thirty Years’ War? Religious persecution was a major reason why people came to America in the first place.
Also, plenty of pogroms and violence against Jews took place in Eastern Europe before the Holocaust. It was not some kind of wild deviation from the historical norm– it had happened before, just not at that scale.
Book burning and witch hunting and suppressing dissent is practically a German tradition, they still carry it out to this day (now in a feminazi way, of course).
Look up what the Romans used to do to the Christians– how very European and civilized of them.
I just don’t know where you get this idea that Europe as a continent is somehow free of racism or atrocities, and that they only happen somewhere else and among other people. It’s equally as stupid as the generic leftists who call everything they don’t like fascism– you somehow believe crimes are only committed by people outside your group (in this case, all of Europe).
The reason why Europe has been set apart from the rest of the world AKA exempted from history for the last 80-ish years is not because of some magical gene: it’s due to being occupied by two major empires, the US and the Soviet Union / Russian Empire. Pax Americana and Pax Sovietica (?). It had nothing to do with docility and believing in pacifism, the stability was the result of one group militarily, politically, and economically dominating the others.
All kinds of wars and internal civil conflicts reemerged in Eastern Europe, as the Soviet Union collapsed.
The same thing could happen in Western Europe, though more in the sense of fragmentation, now that the American Empire is falling and the Pax Americana is over.
When the americans leave europe in the foreseeable future they will not come back a third time, whatever happens in europe.
I think so too, and I pray that I never have to read more propaganda about Hitler, Nazis, and ‘this is just like 1936’.
American interests have nothing to do with Europe. Even setting aside the doomed war in Ukraine, it’s idiotic to spend trillions defending Western Europe from nobody. America has YUGE problems– fix those. Same thing with Asia & the M-E.
And European interests have nothing to do with America or being vassals of the Pentagon.
France and Germany both tried to take on Russia, back when they were still relatively strong, and lost anyways. It’s pointless. Thinking Western Europe will ever gain control of Russia is a pipe dream, a delusion.
Russia does not threaten Western Europe.
And on top of that they’re all reliant on Russian energy, so their crusade to bring sodomy and swastikas to Moscow will just make them poorer and accelerate their economic and political collapse.
I believe they know this on an instinctive level, which is why the coming civil conflicts will not be between Europeans and outside invaders, but the globalist right / left parties against the populist right / left parties. That’s why all the internal energy is 100% focused on suppressing dissent and accusing anyone who questions the narrative of being a hick, conspiracy theorist, nazi, etc etc etc.
Europe never recovered from the destruction of Germany, Austria- Hungary and the Russian Empire (and the Osman Empire also) in WW1. Til today there is a hole in the heart of Europe.
As usual, Rin is wrong, as proven by barely 3 seconds of thought. Maybe the concentrations camps were hidden. However, at the same time the military was doing horrible things in the conquered territories. Filling up a building and setting it on fire. Torture and starvation. Mass rape. All done in plain sight.
More likey the reason for hiding the camps was to trick victims into willingly surrendering. Hey, it’s just some farm work and a shower. See, I’ve got a postcard.
Rintrah is right.
Self-haters gonna self-hate in comments. Whatever.
I am a proud Nazi. This means I am pro-family, pro-safety, pro-environment. Against both the pervert madness of the left, and the technofeudalism currently being pushed by the appointed false saviors in Washington.
Tradition is preservation of fire, not the worship of ashes. Let the false saviours dog-whistle all day about being nahzees, while trying to import millions of poos from India. We’ll raise our children well and teach them the truth. The whole Eastern Europe was able to do that through 45 years of Communist occupation. The flame will emerge again.
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. There is nothing wrong with that.
I think we need a Pinochet.
And Francisco Franco: “Were I am there is no communism”.
Pinochet: “I saved Chile from Communism and Fascism”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YThSWVxUO_k
I think a major priority will be purging (at least some of, hopefully all) the neolib / neocon trash that has accumulated over the last 40 years.
During the collapse of the Soviet Union, wealthy oligarchs looted the country and delivered a decade of humiliation, poverty, and anarchy for the Russian people. Putin’s movement was the response to that, and he managed to curb some of their power while also paving a way out of that horrible moment. Russia may not be a super-powerful empire, but they have a respectable standing in the world, can use military force to accomplish real objectives (instead of pouring all the money and troops into blackholes) and the Russian people trust their government and their institutions.
They had to make compromises to rule and all that, but it accomplished something. I think whichever left or right movement arises in the coming years will have to emulate that.
And yeah, I do mean going beyond posting edgy memes on Twitter (right-wing version) or whining about corporate greed on the campaign trail (left-wing version). Once elected, the outcome is the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GsDLrUieJg
Something real.
The thing about the Nazi label is that a lot of the time normal right wingers will own up to it and start to identify with it; ironically in a similar fashion to black people calling themselves the n-word. This then leads to many of these people gradually starting to take it seriously; and then having to believe in holocaust denial and other types of WW2 revisionism so they can see themselves as “nazis” that don’t support genocide. This combined with edgy-metaironic internet meme culture that encourages people to joke about Hitler only makes discourse more retarded and extreme.
Most of the time when left wingers hear this argument their counter argument just tends to be “just don’t be a Nazi you piece of shit!” They don’t seem to care that their divisive and histrionic rhetoric is only encouraging extremism, they seem to almost be accelerationists in effect.
It’s a cliche but there were real reasons for why people voted for Trump and lefty ideological tyranny was one of them. Though now that right wingers are chimping out we can see that ultimately they are worse than the lefties in many ways. It’s not the democrats who sold their souls to the techbros who want to destroy nature. Of-course righties will deny what they’re actually doing but they’re obviously just in denial. Denial seems to be a right wing trait. Holocaust denial, global warming denial, science denial, et cetera. Even the commies who deny Stalin’s purges seem to have a more right wing personality than most lefties, they’re just brown or homosexual so their edgy dictator daddy can’t be Hitler.
I liked your article saying it’s ok to be brown btw.
Its ok to be brown and black. But not in Europe. Europeans are being colonized by their rulers and the new settlers. And if they complain they are Nazis and get punished. Sick.
I honestly believe that the concept of the “left” and the “right”, in its ENTIRETY, is a huge psyop against the entire population. There really isn’t such a thing as “left” or “right” outside of individual ideas of what these terms mean – and these ideas vary from person to person, as well as between different countries and different contexts and time periods. And yet, we see for example in the United States, that precisely 50 percent of the population will always identify as ‘left,’ while the other 50 percent will always identify as ‘right’, even while what these terms mean to people is nebulous and ever-changing, such that elections are usually decided by a margin of less than 1 percent of the vote. It seems like an incredible coincidence for it to turn out this way, and I think it’s a scenario which reeks of some form of mas-population control and information management. I think it’s better to just forget these terms and throw out the entire simulacrum of modern politics altogether, and just do our best to be as intellectually honest as we can be, and try to figure out on our own what makes the most sense and will lead to the best and most compassionate outcomes overall, independently of what anyone else believes.
> And yet, we see for example in the United States, that precisely 50 percent of the population will always identify as ‘left,’ while the other 50 percent will always identify as ‘right’, even while what these terms mean to people is nebulous and ever-changing, such that elections are usually decided by a margin of less than 1 percent of the vote. It seems like an incredible coincidence for it to turn out this way, and I think it’s a scenario which reeks of some form of mas-population control and information management.
Yes, well spotted. The knife-edge of division among the population seems almost too “perfect” to be organic.
In this context, I will again recommend Matt McKinley/Quantum of Conscience and his notion of “Notnilc” as the more parsimonious explanation for this state of affairs.
You, Tryptie, might refer to this Force as “Demiurge” but other truth-seekers seem to be groping and grasping towards the same, in their own experience.
Thought provoking post as usual Tryptie.
>I think it’s better to just forget these terms and throw out the entire simulacrum of modern politics altogether, and just do our best to be as intellectually honest as we can be, and try to figure out on our own what makes the most sense and will lead to the best and most compassionate outcomes overall, independently of what anyone else believes.
Yeah this is probably for the best, thinking about it, the left/right shit is pointlessly divisive anyway.
Mehen Said: You are stating to sound like James Lindsay and Hanania.
I am insulted. Let me have my low status white male pride…
> Most of the time when left wingers hear this argument their counter argument just tends to be “just don’t be a Nazi you piece of shit!” They don’t seem to care that their divisive and histrionic rhetoric is only encouraging extremism, they seem to almost be accelerationists in effect.
This supports the Pendulum/Cyclic theory of history. In which case there is nothing for anyone to “do” but sit back with the popcorn.
> Denial seems to be a right wing trait. Holocaust denial, global warming denial, science denial, et cetera.
You are stating to sound like James Lindsay and Hanania.
In Germany many of the left and green elites have grandfathers who were war criminals. Ursula von der Leyens father in law was responsible for the Holocaust in Galicia. Habecks grandfather was a fanatic Nazi, Bearbocks also. Rich girl Luisa Neubauer comes from the Reemtsma tobaco dynasty wose had great business relations with the Nazis and became rich. On and on and on. These people try to cure their personal guilt and shame with to terrorizing average Germans as Nazi when normal German men then had no choice other than become a soldier.
Nazi really isn’t an insult it’s more of a trigger word. It is used to trigger a learned strong negative emotional response that has been programmed into individuals by the imposed culture. Its obvious that as countries get less white nazi will lose more of what power it has. You can’t call some guy from Pakistan a nazi, it has no power over he, he has no historical guilt.
But someone of my ethnic makeup would probably feel guilt for posting something like this.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kGqu6d6m478L/
I know that video. Shared it on Facebook back in the day.
One of my Jewish friends explained it away as having to do with census taking at the time.
I dunno
Apropos of nothing but I have burnt all my bridges and no longer have any friends apart from first degree relatives
That video is banned in Britain
That’s one way to look at it!
quote: “…and it is clearly not difficult to trigger massacres against the Alawites in Syria today”
I want to praise the mentioning. It would be more complete if you had mentioned that the massacres are also against Christians, and against anyone who is not associated with the radical fondamentalist jihadis, who were obviously set up, manipulated and funded by the American, French and British deep states, and by the neo-Ottomans and Zionists of course.
The Church (Patriarchate) of Antioch in Syria are the descendants of the first people who were called ‘Christians’, if my memory serves me well.
John of Damascus, Romanos the Melodist, Isaac the Syrian, John “of the Ladder”, and countless other Saints are from Syria.
2,000 years of history and culture are wiped out just like that, and in tragedy (with genocidal tactics), after TPTB managed to distract their protectors in their own security problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7arbUAm_8U
This is the best explanation of the Alawite massacre I came across. Basically the Alawites stage a poorly planned half assed rebellion, killing hundreds of HTS. HTS payded them back. First 12 minutes or so.
“Kristallnacht”.. (more like ‘Kristallwochen’) but of genocide proportions.
And of course the “payback” is always disproportionate.
Let’s not forget that the jihadi interim(?) President and his regime are officially backed by the EU.
(besides the aforementioned deep-states)
(plus, the minority communities, Alawites, Christians etc, do not have a formal head-representation)