Almost everyone now seems eager to jump on the “Omicron is mild” bandwagon, but the evidence we have just doesn’t really justify that conclusion. In fact, the vaccine induced immunity is effectively useless against Omicron in most people, so you can expect that we’re going to face another massive wave of people getting sick.
I would understand it if you’re skeptical about this idea because you heard some “anti-science anti-vaxxer right wing populist conspiracy theorist” like me peddle this suggestion. But it’s not just the usual suspects now telling you that these vaccines are not going to work. It’s the blue-checked Phd in immunology zero COVID pronouns-in-your-Twitter-bio wokies who say the same thing. The only people still arguing that these vaccines work, are the people who are involved in producing and marketing them, including the politicians who fell for this blunder.
This is so interesting, that I’m going to republish a couple of the tweets here, with a little commentary from me:
A thread ? on #misinformation about vaccine elicited immune responses and vaccine induced protection, and why conflating these two things leads to downplaying the severity of Omicron
1/33— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
You will often read that vaccine induced protection is more than just neutralizing antibodies. That’s just not true. Let me correct this:
The *immune response* is more than just NAbs, BUT ONLY A PART OF the immune response confers protection, and this part IS actually NAbs
2/— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
This excellent study carried out by @VirusesImmunity and @BenIsraelow shows that vaccine induced protection does NOT rely or depend on CD8+ T cells : CD8+ depletion at the time of challenge didn’t change anything
3/ https://t.co/GuvNBcBPA0— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
CD8+ could even enhance disease severity (via @C_A_Gustave ? +++) which is not surprising considering they act as mass shooters by “shooting” infected cells
4/ https://t.co/YG4ZSTDzxn— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
As @BenIsraelow said, “while T cells play a role during ACUTE infections, our antibodies are crucial for long-term protection against re-infection”
Reminder : protection during ACUTE infection doesn’t depend on vaccine mediated protection https://t.co/TGYtr5mmRb
5/— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
As a consequence we can’t count on CD8+ T cells to protect us against symptomatic or severe disease.
6/— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
I care not about some narrative, I care about what’s correct. And here the zero COVID wokies get it right: The evidence suggests that T-cells won’t protect people from severe disease. Yet here’s what the vaccine peddlers tell you:
As MORE than 80% of epitopes in the spike protein recognized by CD8+ T-cells are not affected by the mutations in Omicron, two doses MAY STILL induce protection against severe disease.
— Chise ???? (@sailorrooscout) December 10, 2021
Liar-liar, pants on fire! Look at this from an emotionally detached perspective: Does this look like a consistent narrative to you? Only one of these two can be correct. It should be obvious: The narrative is falling apart. The people who don’t have a reputation tied to these vaccines are ready to point out that the vaccines won’t tackle this new variant.
These findings led to these estimates (decreased VE against symptomatic and severe disease even after 3 doses or ???)
17/ https://t.co/FjvXFEG11r— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
Besides, even in triple vaccinated individuals, we only have 25% neutralization 3 months from 3rd dose.
⚠️ It doesn’t mean these individuals neutralized 3/4 of the viral load, it means that :
– 1/4 of them fully neutralized it
– 3/4 of them didn’t neutralize it AT ALL
18/ https://t.co/gdXzQs8gAe— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
Concretely it raises concerns about protection durability.
It means that:
– 75% of the ppl who got their 3rd dose btw September & October aren’t protected against Omicron anymore
– at least 75% of doses administered so far are now spoiled ??
19/— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
So here you see it. If you got two doses of this vaccine, it doesn’t work against Omicron. If you did get a third dose, but you got it three months ago or more, there’s at least a 75% chance it doesn’t work against Omicron.
What if you get your third dose now? It seems that it takes a few weeks before it starts offering protection. During the first few days, your white blood cells migrate to the injection site, so the rest of your body is actually less protected.
If we look at the graph, we see that two weeks after the booster, 42% have zero neutralizing antibodies. How much more evidence do you need? These vaccines are not going to work in protecting you against Omicron.
At this point, the bigger question is: What do the non-neutralizing antibodies do? Again, from the Japanese scientists we learned that the non-neutralizing antibodies can make the infection worse. We need to know: What happens to the majority of people, who received the booster but are still stuck with zero neutralizing antibodies? It looks to me like they’re stuck in a situation with a vaccine that makes them more susceptible to this virus.
She is also worried that Omicron can overpower the neutralizing antibody response, simply because it replicates too rapidly:
We couldn’t predict how challenging Delta could be based on neutralization assays because the issue was its increased transmissibility and the fact it coincided with waning immunity (lower levels of antibodies made it easier for Delta to overwhelm vaccine induced defenses)
22/— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
According to all data we have on ACE2 binding, Ct values, community transmission, secondary attacks, etc… Omicron might be a too overpowering variant IN ADDITION to documented immune escape. It means that on top of that it will expose you to a much higher viral load…
23/— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
She offers us other juicy information too, later on in the thread. After you had your first three shots, you’re going to need two or three more, to be protected against Omicron:
Will vaccine induced defenses be sufficient to limit disease severity even in the first 3 months following the 3rd dose ? Nothing is more uncertain
24/— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
And of course it’s a vicious cycle because increased transmissibility and rapid viral growth mean you will shed a lot more virus and much sooner, thus exposing your community to an infectious dose shortly after your own exposure… And so on…
25/— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
Well you’re going to say that mRNA based vaccines formula can be adapted easily compared to protein based vaccines, and it’s true !
But tweaking vaccines isn’t a guarantee that your immune response will be updated. Read this excellent thread by @C_A_Gustave [in French]
26/ https://t.co/Bgo8fJb4yD— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
Besides it won’t be 1 dose of a booster encoding Omicron Spike. With respect to the immune response, only a complete series of 2 or 3 doses of Omicron specific? can provide robust/long lasting protection. One dose can only prime the immune response to non conserved epitopes
28/— Dr. Meryl CD8+ T cell ???? #CovidAndFungus (@MerylSwanLake) December 13, 2021
There is some refreshing honesty here, because she tells you the whole story, instead of just getting you to go along with the next step and pretending that the previous step worked perfectly fine. Her honesty is unusual, I recommend reading the whole thread, but I won’t post it here.
But let’s summarize what we learned:
-Without inducing neutralizing antibodies, these vaccines can’t protect you.
-Even three months after your booster, there’s a 75% chance you won’t have neutralizing antibodies and thus are not protected against Omicron.
-Even if you do have neutralizing antibodies, it can still be insufficient, because the virus replicates so rapidly that your neutralizing antibodies can’t keep up.
From the third idea we can draw the following conclusion ourselves:
-If we vaccinate people and a number of them end up infected by variants that replicate rapidly enough to overcome their neutralizing antibodies, we’re thereby encouraging the evolution of new variants that replicate more rapidly than older variants. Such variants will generally be more dangerous to everyone, vaccinated or unvaccinated.
That’s what we saw with Delta: It’s intrinsically a more dangerous variant than the previous variants, but this was obscured by the fact that most people now had immunity from natural infection or the vaccines. That’s why countries like Australia and New Zealand lost their mind once they failed to keep Delta out: Because nobody there had pre-existing immunity to SARS-COV-2 due to their zero COVID stupidity, it was going to be far more dangerous for them than it is in a country like Sweden, where almost everyone has had some exposure to the virus before Delta arrived.
But now I want to show you the most damning piece of evidence, that makes it very clear that these vaccines merely seem to make you more vulnerable to Omicron. Here you can see infections in Denmark, Omicron versus non-Omicron, by vaccination status, since the 22nd of November:
You can see the distribution here, of Omicron versus the other variants. Whereas 43.6% of cases of other variants are in the unvaccinated, just 13.8% of Omicron cases are in the unvaccinated. Whereas 4% of other variants are in boosted people, 8.9% of Omicron cases are in boosted people.
And keep in mind: This is going to get worse, not better. It’s going to evolve further, to turn into a virus that preys on people with a vaccine-induced immune response. Here you can see a recent mutation that showed up and now constitutes 10% of Omicron cases:
In addition, some #Omicron (BA.1) viruses also have acquired R346K mutation in RBD. According to @richardneher, this is ~10% of them right now (https://t.co/84CVKEl8z0). (3/n)
— Bloom Lab (@jbloom_lab) December 13, 2021
Here are calculated binding scores (see https://t.co/jIPbndSdqp to mouse over points for mutations). BA.2 calculated to have *less* antigenic escape than main BA.1 lineage. BA.1 + R346K has *more* escape, also worse than @PaulBieniasz @theodora_nyc polymutant (PMS20). (6/n) pic.twitter.com/G5zW19Ei9w
— Bloom Lab (@jbloom_lab) December 13, 2021
This is the sort of mutation that allows it to escape what little protection these vaccines still offer in a handful of people. And these mutations now have a selective advantage, so you’re going to watch them become more common. If the vaccines offer zero percent protection against severe disease today, a month from now they may offer us negative protection against severe disease, because Omicron will have changed.
If you have made it this far without rolling up your sleeve for an experimental gene therapy, it’s easy: Whatever you do, don’t get the vaccine. If they fire you from your job, if they don’t let you into the supermarket, if they give you a fine, deal with it, but don’t get the vaccine.
If you did get the vaccine, don’t get the booster, but study prophylactic treatment. Zinc, vitamin D, vitamin K2, Quercetin, protease inhibitors (like Ivermectin), nattokinase, N-Acetylcysteine, magnesium, vitamin B12, vitamin C, that sort of stuff. If you live in the Netherlands and want Ivermectin, let me know, I’ll send it to you.
So far so good, but now I want to address the normie-conservatives, who are peddling the “Omicron is mild” bullshit. This is just not true, it’s wishful thinking. Just because you want to be done with the batsoupflu after injecting everyone with some gene therapy doesn’t mean the problem is over.
If you alter people’s immune response and prohibit the normal development of layered immunity after the introduction of a new virus, it’s going to have consequences. The more diverse our immune response is against this virus, the more we are protected from new variants. By inducing a similar and very narrow immune response in billions of people worldwide, we turned ourselves into sitting ducks for this virus.
We could have handled it very easily: Allow the virus to infect everyone while it is still mild and give people supplements to protect them from severe disease. In the summer of 2020, we should have had massive festivals, where young people infect each other. I even organized parties myself back then, I spent hundreds of bucks on psychedelics. We did not use this opportunity to build broad layered immunity. We waited, gave this virus time to evolve into more dangerous variants and eventually ended up engaging in the most stupid act imaginable:
We gave everyone a highly similar immune response, to the Wuhan version of the Spike protein. Without humans developing broad diverse immunity against this virus, this doesn’t end. We prevented people from developing broad diverse immunity, so now we get to enjoy the consequences.
You can’t just say “I want COVID to be over, so it’s going to be over, even though we did everything we can to make it worse”. If we did everything we can to make it worse, then it’s going to get worse. That’s why you’re now stuck with a new variant, that spreads more rapidly than anything we have ever seen.
But hey, don’t just take my word for it. Ignore South Africa for a moment. They are lucky enough to have everyone infected before the vaccine campaign began. Rather, look at the numbers from Denmark:
Uh-oh. That’s 37 people hospitalized, on 3437 cases. That’s slightly over 1% of cases hospitalized. That’s very nasty, especially if you keep in mind these people were supposed to be protected by the vaccine.
But hey, it’s actually worse. Here’s the age demographic that got Omicron:
It has only just seeded itself into the country, so most cases are still in healthy young adults, the people who engage in most social mingling and thus are the first to encounter the virus. Once the elderly pick it up, that’s when the real mess begins.
But it’s even worse, if you consider there’s a lag between cases and hospitalizations. If you assume there’s a three day lag between cases and hospitalizations, then you’re looking at 1,280 cases with 37 people hospitalized. That’s a 2.8% case hospitalization ratio.
I don’t see how this could possibly not turn into a catastrophe. The normies really screwed up this time. Watch as the narrative changes by the end of this week.
>If you live in the Netherlands and want Ivermectin, let me know, I’ll send it to you.
That’s a dangerous sentence to write on a blog these days. But sure, please do send me some. I assume you can see my email address?
(You are not some sort of Orwellian The Brotherhood agent provocateur, are you?)
>I assume you can see my email address?
I can’t. PM me on Reddit.
Hm, apologies, but I have no idea how I should find you on Reddit. There is a u/radagast with only 1 karma point – is that you? I see people are sharing your posts, but I am not sure if it is you, or someone else.
Sorry, I am a bit old-fashioned and never quite made it to Web 2.0.
My reddit username is disc_writes, same as here.
/u/mushroomsarefriends
I am in United States and would like some ivermecton. I am 72 had the initial two vaccines, not phizer. In March and April. Think I had Covid prior to the injections in February but just recuped at home and don’t want to get the third. Thanks. NR.
You can order from ivermectinsupplier dot us. Indian pharmacy, I’ve made several orders now to here in USA, with no issues. No script needed, but you will wait maybe 3 weeks for your order.
Go to the FLCCC site, https://covid19criticalcare.com — it lists a lot of places you can get it, both with a consultation to get an rx (I did a $25 questionnaire, US compounding pharmacy) or without any rx (presumably from India). I also heard of someone in the U.S. getting an rx through her holistic doctor.
Man, I really hoped it would be mild, so that the vaccine pushers can claim victory and get out of the woods. If you turn right what would they do:
1. somehow try to spin it like ‘the unvaccinated are the ones causing the deaths among the vaccinated’. It makes no sense but neither do everything what they say now. It would be welcomed by the vaxxed because they could claim somebody else for their bad decision.
2. create an even bigger mess that will overshadow their covid failure – a conflict with russia over ukraine? energy crisis in europe? total collapse of internet infrastructure? a new virus to cover for the omicron ADE …
As you said before we honestly do not know.
Regarding ivermectin – I ordered from india and on two of two occasions it was caught and confiscated by the customs. They really do take care that nobody in germany gets a proper early treatment.
My hope is that in the US the whole covid theatre is failing so we should make sure that Europe follows suit. You are doing a great job on it, Radagast
>Regarding ivermectin – I ordered from india and on two of two occasions it was caught and confiscated by the customs. They really do take care that nobody in germany gets a proper early treatment.
Fuck it, PM me your address.
I think they are doing the same thing in Canada — confiscating ivermectin at customs. It’s appalling.
>Regarding ivermectin – I ordered from india and on two of two occasions it was caught and confiscated by the customs. They really do take care that nobody in germany gets a proper early treatment.
Hi, I ordered Ivermectin from India as well to Germany and now am anxious reading your comment. Did they sent you a penalty or what happened after you were informed of the confiscation? The money you purchased the product for is gone?
The Danish % numbers in the table are misaligned for the Omicron cases… it’s actually much worse for jabbed vs unvexed. I know, the original source data messed up the table.
Do you think the governments will be able to back down, even when they know they’re wrong?
I have fallen in love with this blog site. Keep up the great work.
I found your blog via a comment on the Naked Capitalism blog. Thank you in particular for your last three posts — I find your writing to be well-researched, well-cited and well articulated. I agree that OAS with Omicron is going to be very problematic for the vaccinated. But maybe people will start to wake up as a result.
Do you have a background in immunology or virology? Mine is in analytic philosophy, but I’ve been working in ‘health care’ in the US for the past eight years, so I’ve learned how the sausage is made. Prior to that I worked in finance. I thought that that industry is corrupt, but it might not hold a candle to the corruption found in the medical field.
Is there a way that readers can support your blog financially?
Is there anything I can do to help get ivermectin to your readers in the EU who want or need it? Horse paste is still readily available in the US, and I’ve ordered tablets from India seven times; all have gotten through US Customs.
#SupportProtocols, couldn’t agree more. Radagast, I would immediately subscribe to your blog if you mirror it to substack for example. You do not have to hide sth and show it only to subscribers. Also happy to support directly. It is hell of a work which takes time. It is of great value to me.
I would also support your effort to legally get ivermectin to everybody who needs it. It is extremely safe and there is a good evidence that it reduces mortality by more than 60% which is great. Horse paste is actually fine – given my trust in the pharma industry these days I would almost prefer an animal product. sad but true!
It is outrageous that monoclonal AB, being 90% effective are not widely used, while all chips are on the vaccines which are nowhere near as effective. Yet another red flag for the government maliciousness. At least monoclonal AB are more expensive so that the pharma industry could also make good profits. I guess the issue with them is they are a one-off profit and after this one acquires natural immunity. With ‘ze vakziines’ they are after a never ending subscription based plans. Netflix of the pharma industry.
Fantastic post mate.
My elderly parents are going to take their 3rd shots today. Could not talk them out of it. Breaks my heart.
Attempting to reach you via Reddit.
Kirsch Sums it up well:
Here’s my guess for how this is going to play out:
Health officials use fear of Omicron to scare people into taking the booster now.
The booster temporarily suppresses your immune system, making you more susceptible to getting Omicron.
You get Omicron
You die due to the vaccine
Omicron is perceived to have killed you.
Go to step 1.
Again thanks for your great work here Radagast I’m spreading far and wide
‘Reputation’ ‘on the line’? “The data shows no reduction in covid or death”
The last American vagabond video at 27:57 :
28:00 These spike proteins cross the blood brain barrier. . . . They have prion disease effects. We are going to see this in about a year and a half.
39:50: the outcomes of these prion diseases. The data shows that it is a problem for both {the virus and particular the vaccine}
https://www.flemingmethod.com/select-videos
“ . . . this as a virus
32:25 the virus is merely the delivery system
32:27 for the real bio weapon
32:29 a prion and a prion is an abnormally
32:33 folded protein
32:34 that causes damage throughout the body
32:37 including mad cow disease alzheimer’s
32:41 inflammation and blood clotting
32:45 seroscop2 the abbreviation for
32:49 severe acute respiratory syndrome
32:51 coronavirus . . . “
“ . . . look at either relative risk reductions
65:34 or more important the absolute risk
65:36 reduction which goes anywhere between
65:38 0.84
65:39 and 1.3 percent which is not
65:43 i think what most people
65:47 are thinking is really happening
65:50 it’s really the elephant in the room
65:52 that shows that the vaccines
65:54 don’t really have the efficacy or
65:57 effectiveness that people
65:58 believe they do compared with people who
66:01 aren’t vaccinated . . . “
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GzzBD1kJ0g&t=638s
Hi Rintrah – highly interesting post – thank you.
This South African ‘study’ out today (14th Dec) making the news here in the UK. Vaccines still mostly effective at stopping severe disease and death is the sell.
Headline:
The two-dose Pfizer-BioNTech vaccination provides 70% protection against severe complications of COVID-19 requiring hospitalisation, and 33% protection against COVID-19 infection, during the current Omicron wave.
Link:
https://www.politicsweb.co.za/documents/vaccines-priorinfections-less-effective-against-om
What do you think?
I would have to see the study itself to properly judge it, but generally speaking these studies are distorted by the fact that vaccinated people are on average in better health than unvaccinated people. In a country like South Africa this is particularly likely.
Also, South Africa is different from Europe. In South Africa people were infected with multiple variants, before receiving the vaccines. That means they had the opportunity to develop a normal immune response.
I’m most worried about places like Norway, Denmark, Germany, Australia and New Zealand, where many people were vaccinated before ever being exposed to this virus.
London looks like the early European city to watch. Infection levels were low all through the summer while they crept up everywhere else, but now they’ve shot up there in the last few days – it’s the UK omicron hotspot. Overall vaccination levels for greater London are lower than the rest of the country but does have high numbers of younger PMC too.
When I say everywhere else I’m talking about in England.
@JayPine, that is such an English POV, right up there with the headline, “Fog in Channel, Continent Cut Off.”
EGCG (found in green tea) and theaflavin (found in black tea) have strong antiviral activity. Computer simulations and in vitro studies have shown that they neutralize sars-cov2. Population studies show that populations that drink a lot of green tea have lower case fatality rates. EGCG is also a zinc ionophore. If you don’t want to drink a lot of tea, EGCG capsules are easy to find in the US.
China promised to release Covid delta XT. they won’t let Africans take the lead
nah, i’ll pass until the delta xt pro is released.
Will they also post an “unboxing” video?