So I’ve listened to a podcast on the Zizians and I thought it’s fascinating. The story is about an intellectually gifted transgender vegan singularitarian “rationalist” named Ziz, who tries to convince other rationalists that the superhuman intelligence AI they’re all expecting to be built soon should be vegan. It ends in a bunch of deaths.
The thing I feel like pointing out though, is that this is what happens when you spend every day of your life talking to other people within the same small community: You become insane through group polarization. If any of these people had talked to their neighbor, to their racist uncle Bob, to some guy at their local pub, none of this would have happened. They would have told them: “You’re in a cult and you’re all going nuts.”
But I want to go a step further and say that all of this also just seems tied to an unwillingness to accept the hardships of the real world. You should pay attention to the fact that none of the singularity dudes and dudettes seem particularly buff. They don’t really interact with physical reality much. And when you don’t interact with physical reality, it starts to feel overly cruel, painful and limiting to you. But note who seems to have no such problem: People and animals actually living in it. It’s not sub-Saharan African tribesmen who hate life and wish they were never born. It’s David Benatar.
The thing is, that the lives we live are just not physically hard enough. It’s not difficult enough for our brains to find the physical sensations it seeks. And when your mind is stuck in a situation where your life is not physically hard enough for a long period, it starts to harmfully affect how you view the world.
What first made me skeptical about veganism is not my own well-being, but rather, how keen many vegans were on “abolishing suffering” altogether. Wild nature is too painful, the animals suffer too much when they eat each other, so all of nature has to be redesigned to end all the suffering. This is the idea some of them peddle.
It’s important to think about your death every once in a while. If you can accept your own death, you’re better able to accept that others die for your comfort. None of these people ever really came to terms with death, hence why they became singularitarians.
But importantly, I think you need to learn to come to terms not just with death, but with pain. I’ve seen people’s self-harm scars, they can get pretty horrifying. Such physical suffering is sometimes induced by humans on themselves, to cleanse their minds of psychological suffering. But sometimes you accidentally break a leg or an arm. It happened to me a few times. You will suffer in the days that follow, but afterwards when the injury heals, you will be more present in our concrete day to day reality, rather than trapped in intellectual abstractions that torture you.
Life has become both too physically comfortable and too psychologically stressful.
In relation to that, here’s an old interview with an elderly Dutch woman from a wealthy family:
You can turn on subtitles. She had enough money to never have to do anything, her personnel cleaned the house and cooked for her. She became very depressed as a result, until eventually she found a hobby, making wall tapestries. The video is about 45 years old by now, it’s basically a different world we’re looking at.
It’s easy to tell people “find a hobby”, but I think it’s an easier solution to anguish for these isolated elderly wealthy women than it is for young men and the transgender AI cultists. When I look at this woman, it’s pretty clear to me she probably never took LSD and she never went skydiving.
If you’ve never done extreme things to your brain, it’s easier to satisfy it with something relatively simple. If you expose your brain to big events that flood it with dopamine, it’s more inclined to seek some grand quest for meaning. I have some nasty anhedonia myself lately, but I think it’s gradually retreating and cannabidiol is thought to help with that.
There’s another podcast I like, it’s called awful addresses, but it’s in Dutch too. People will tell you podcasts are an information poor medium, but that’s a good thing to me. I don’t need a lot of information anymore, I need something funny I can passively listen to while I sit outside in the sun.
RR – Cato and the Wombat both mentioned hunting and fishing in a positive light in the previous thread, and both comments died without trace. But I think I see them bearing fruit here.
I’d like to add weight to their comments. There is something very RIGHT about slogging over hills and through the bush in search of fish or game to kill and cook. Something about the physical effort and hardship, as you mention above. Something about acknowledging that you are an active part of the food chain. Something…else? Dunno. But it’s real.
This shit is good for your mental and physical health and if you can find someone to take you into the bush or out to the coast every now and again, then do it.
FWIW. Be well bro.
>There is something very RIGHT about slogging over hills and through the bush in search of fish or game to kill and cook. Something about the physical effort and hardship, as you mention above. Something about acknowledging that you are an active part of the food chain. Something…else? Dunno. But it’s real.
I believe that. It’s part of becoming part of nature again.
1999/2000 Movie Fight club comes to my mind.
As a fisherman, I’d go with ‘The Old Man and the Sea’ over Fight Club
“Pain does not matter to a man” wrote Hemmingway
Hmmm, okay, so they have some things in common.
Hunter gathering/fishing probably represents the closest you can get to a complete and satisfying lifestyle.
Nature is part of it – being part of the dynamic and chaotic forces of nature is exhilarating and deeply satisfying etc. But also, the ‘work’ is meaningful and engrossing – is it even really ‘work’ in the way we understand our miserable, alienating, nametag work? Probably not.
It’s not a fake proxy activity for something meaningful, it is meaningful and satisfying in and of itself, and it doesn’t alienate those who do it unlike mundane modern work.
Not a lot of depression among hunter gatherers.
I was going to write something like this yesterday, but had a change of heart. I was also going to suggest that a lot of this is still obtainable if one happened to live in an area with the right kind of resources, with one caveat being that one needs a house.
The sad part here is that to get that house, one needs cash, and to get the cash one needs to work. . .
You cannot just go and make a house, or the authorities will tear it down. Otherwise, we’d all have refused to work for the system and just walked off into the bush long ago down here in Oz. The authorities knew/know this, so they make and maintain laws to prevent it.
That was what I was going to mention yesterday.
But I let it go.
Then today I read this story about how this couple of gays who the local council is threatening with a $1m fine if they don’t tear down their DIY tiny house, and that brought me back to it: https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/outrageous-nsw-couple-face-1m-fine-or-homelessness-for-living-in-tiny-house/news-story/dbb0e33523291b24d4ac2d00d3e8383e
You need a house for security and to prevent them from arresting you for vagrancy, but you cannot make your own, or they fine you, or bulldoze it etc. So, what options are left?
None, one is trapped. So, it’s back doon pit for us all.
I could keep complaining, crap on about the need for a revolution etc, but I won’t.
Instead, I’m wondering if you might have enough cash squirrelled away to buy a small place somewhere in a location with some good resources. If you have no kids to uproot with a change of location etc. then now could be a good time.
The Finn you like, Penti, was a fisherman.
Just a suggestion.
I’m still piling up enough resources to reach escape velocity myself, or I’d have already launched.
Sunlight ages your skin horribly. I’d recommend you don’t sit in the sun.
Yes, hide from the sun. Really??
Not sound advice.
If you don’t believe me, look what Bryan Johnson has explained on the subject.
My advice is excellent, not just because I know vastly more than you do, or because I learn from people who know vastly more than you, rather, the primary disparity is that I am simply much smarter than you and have superior deductive and pattern recognition abilities.
For example – look at somebody over the age of fifty who has worked in the sun his whole life, and look at his horrible leather skin, and then look at the skin on the same person’s shoulder or thigh or somewhere else typically shielded from the sun.
If this comparison does not immediately convince you that sun ages skin, the main problem is your limits of understanding.
Fucko continuing to be a boring fag.
Yeah, what we really need is a globo-ethnostate of white Mormons who are really concerned about the sun aging their skin when they reach their fifties.
Please, can Montezuma come back already?
What is wrong with that. Nowadays, the only ones that are not Pozzed are the boring ones.
Fucko, you’re sense of humor is matchless.
SB “your”. See you crack me up and I laugh so hard I cannot even use the keyboard effectively!
Exposure to the sun is the same as fucking Thai ladyboys. You get some here and there, but do not expose yourself too much, because too much exposure is harmful. Judicial moderation is the key.
Mr Smith,
You are coarse and tawdry.
Do not knock it until you try it. The problems come however when you start to indulge too much. You end up waking up in a hotel suite, in bed with three hot sexy lady boys and one ordering breakfast, with no memory of the night before because of the 15 hour alcohol and drug binge.
@Fucko:”For example – look at somebody over the age of fifty who has worked in the sun his whole life, and look at his horrible leather skin, and then look at the skin on the same person’s shoulder or thigh or somewhere else typically shielded from the sun.”
That argument means nothing. The same could be said for a person that works indoors and never goes outside. Too much sun is harmful, but too little sun is also harmful. The key is finding a balance. Sun therapy if you are sun starved, and staying out of the sun if you’ve had enough.
If you are smart you will instinctively know the right ratios. If you are dumb, you will get sun burnt and get skin cancer, or you will stay out of the sun and become sickly and psychotic, and your progeny will learn to hate the sun, without realizing that it was really a matter of too much or too little, and not enough self-awareness.
No, you are just wrong. Consult Bryan Johnson’s findings. I have not had much sun exposure at all since 1998 and I am completely fine, in fact the primary effect it’s had is to cause people to extremely underestimate my age. There is nothing wrong with my argument, you simply do not know what you are talking about.
No, sir, I absolutely do know what I am talking about, because everything I have stated here is grounded in the truth of personal experience. I don’t dispute the fact that too much sun causes premature aging, but to specifically avoid it all together is unsound advice.
I only sit in the sun in the cooler months, from late fall to early spring. I don’t try to get a tan, I just consider it personally therapeutic to sit in the for about 30 minutes a day, in that I look and feel better afterwards. It’s only a seasonal thing though, I tend to cover up and minimize sun exposure during the summer. And so I presumably am doing the opposite of you, and yet people also extremely underestimate my age, and I still get carded, even by people who are half my age.
Everyone’s experience is different. If you don’t like to sit in the sun, and feel better staying out of the sun, perhaps that is what is best for your own unique body chemistry, but that doesn’t mean it’s going to be true for everyone else. By the way I’m white and of Northern European decent, but I don’t have blond hair or blue eyes, and perhaps you do, and that could be a factor.
I’ve never heard of Bryan Johnson’s findings, but I will look into.
So, I looked up this guy Bryan Johnson, and I guess I have heard of him before, I think I saw him a few months ago on Bill Maher’s podcast, but I wasn’t very impressed. He’s very wealthy, so he’s got plenty of money to spend on experimental longevity treatments. We’re about the same age, more or less, and I would say that although he does look good for his age, he doesn’t look that much younger. He’s 47, and I’d say he looks maybe ten years younger, which honestly is not that remarkable. Some people have young genes, I’m one of them, and they’ll look young no matter what they do, but then they try to peddle a certain diet or supplement, when it was really just their luck of the draw youthful genes.
Anyway, I only glanced at his website and read one article about him, but this particular passage really stood out:
“Bryan incorporates advanced technologies and therapies into his daily routine. In the morning, he uses light therapy to simulate sunlight exposure. High-stimulation electromagnetic therapy targets his lower abdomen, while 12 minutes of red light therapy promotes healing and rejuvenation.”
Interesting that part of his daily routine involves light therapy simulating sunlight exposure. Perhaps because sunlight is beneficial after all, if the conditions are just right. As in time of day, season, light intensity, UV index, etc. Artificial light allows him to customize the settings, but personally I’d prefer natural over artificial. It’s like the difference between eating an orange, or taking a vitamin C supplement, they both give you vitamin C, but eating an orange is more holistic; much like the sun, versus synthetic light.
Found a relevant article from his website:
https://blueprint.bryanjohnson.com/blogs/news/why-i-avoid-the-sun
Highlights:
I avoid the sun. But not all the time.
Sunlight is good
Sunlight helps the skin produce vitamin D. This is good for bones and immune health.
It can increase serotonin, a hormone that promotes mood and calmness.
Natural light helps regulate our circadian rhythm which improves sleep quality.
Sunlight is bad
UV rays from the sun break down collagen and elastin. This leads to wrinkles, sagging, and general skin aging.
Large amounts of UV also increase the risk of skin cancers, such as melanoma, basal cell carcinoma, and squamous cell carcinoma.
Tips to get the good without the bad:
Get sun exposure when the UV index is below 3; early mornings and late afternoons.
Don’t get burned.
When the UV index is >4, wear a hat or use a UV umbrella.
Use a UV light in the morning to promote your circadian rhythm without the sun. I use a 10k Lux Carex lamp.
You can supplement your Vitamin D levels. I take 2,000 IU daily.
Use sunscreen that protects against UVA and UVB. I use EltaMD.
Use a mineral sunscreen if possible.
A burn is potentially more dangerous than a chemical sunscreen. Try to avoid both.
If you dislike sunscreen, refer to 1, 2, and 3.
So why do people like construction workers who work outside have less melanomas then people who work inside? Why do these melanomas occur mostly not at the face or the hands but in places where the sun never shines on? Even under the skin and inside the body. Whats indeed dangerous if a fair skinned aryan lives in places with strong sun like Africa or Australia.
Silky smooth skin is EXACTLY what he is decrying in the post. It is coveted as a sign of wealth, not health.
Captain SmartyPants Bryan Johnson got myocarditis from taking the clot shot made by malthusians who think there’s too many people here in realm Earth.
Find someone new to idolize, or better yet, idolize no one, especially not these midwits.
Bathe in the sun of God as it walks across the waters.
His Sol is ours.
Sun avoidance increases your risk of death to the same extent as cigarette smoking. Just because you’re a fundamentalist Mormon who (I assume) lives in Utah or Arizona where it’s too hot to go outside for much of the year, doesn’t mean that the rest of us should follow your advice. If you’re concerned about photoaging of your master race delicate skin wear a mineral (zinc oxide) SPF on your face/neck and expose your bare arms and legs. As long as you don’t burn you’re not increasing your risk of melanoma.
“If you’re concerned about photoaging of your master race delicate skin wear a mineral (zinc oxide) SPF on your face/neck and expose your bare arms and legs.”
It’s better to cover-up, most topical sun screens are toxic. In the Southwestern United States, the best sun therapy is found between fall and early spring, November to April, in the summer you stay out of the sun, wearing long sleeve shirts and wide brim hats, and taking lots of siestas in the shade.
> most topical sun screens are toxic.
Yes unfortunately this is true, especially the chemical sunscreens, where the active ingredients are endocrine disruptors. And lots of the mineral (zinc oxide and titanium dioxide) sunscreens contain seed oils which is NOT GOOD. IMO the best options are the hypoallergenic brands marketed for babies, like this one:
https://www.pipettebaby.com/products/mineral-spf-50-sunscreen
Ingredients list doesn’t look too bad for that one. Or you can find brands where the only three ingredients are coconut oil, zinc oxide and beeswax. But unfortunately these ones can leave a white cast that makes you look pale.
But if you’re eating a low inflammatory (minimise/eliminate added sugars [glycation], refined carbs and seed oils), nutrient dense diet, you can minimise UV damage whilst maximising your skin’s ability to repair.
So, nutrients like retinol, beta carotene, lutein, zeaxanthin, phytonutrients from berries, omega-3 fatty acids, etc., all of which have been shown to protect against sun damage to a certain extent.
And there’s also the options of things like topical retinoids, electric microneedling and CO2 lasers to repair sun damage.
In the northern hemisphere Vitamin D by the sun is only produced between April and October. Not in the winter. Rule of thumb: if your shadow is longer than you are no Vit D can be produced.
I remember this from Bret and Heather ‘Darkhorse’ podcast! Great show. They are both evolutionary biologists.
So, the sun has to get to more than 45 degrees above the horizon–otherwise it gets blocked by the atmosphere.
At 45 degrees our body and shadow are equal (forming an isosceles right triangle).
In the Southern USA (where BB lives) maybe they have this benefit February-November?
*this benefit… around NOON for winter months.
@Boozy: “In the northern hemisphere Vitamin D by the sun is only produced between April and October. Not in the winter.”
Not true below the 37th parallel, which constitutes the southern region of the United States. In the sunbelt, the sun is most therapeutic from late fall to early spring, and in the summer when the UV index is above 10, its best to cover up, and stay in the shade.
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/vitamin-d-deficiency-how-winter-sunlight-affects-our-health/3193518/
We are perfectly made for thisenvironment. I dont think our ancestors in middle/north europe thought about protecting their skin in summer from the sun while working or hunting outside. They spent summer mostly outside and winter mostly inside.
Good piece of advice from Cal Newport’s “Digital Minimalism” is to engage in a hobby that _requires the manipulation of physical objects_. Gaming and movie watching and reading books and writing code don’t qualify. Do some gardening or model painting or the like. I recommend restoring cast iron cookware; it’s practically impossible to screw up, it’s cheap, and it’s rewarding.
I think you’re a coward if you defend predation but are not willing to kill yourself. If you want to eat fish you should fish at-least once. If you want to eat game meat, you should find a cute deer or pig peacefully living out its days in the woods, you should propel a bullet into its skull, and chop it up into little bits before consuming it. If you’re not actually willing to do that, than you’re just as bad as every other enjoyer of the holocaust whose too scared to personally kill a jew, needing your murder packaged in a deniable box by men who are actually willing to acknowledge the reality of what they want.
The normie moral cowards are the worst; you’d be better off as a bloodthirsty killer, there’s more dignity to that.
There’s this guy I follow on X, he calls himself “Incel Rider” he’s hilarious. He talks shit about women, minorities, normies, and Trump dick-riders, he plays Nintendo games for children, and posts about distaste for factory farms. He also gets out in the muck with his dogs and spears wild boars, he relishes in their screams and the thrill of murdering them and consuming their raw flesh and makes no pretensions about this. I have more respect for him than I do you faggot normies and your faggot barely thought out self-interested humanism.
LSWSM you’re a pleasant sort of fellow, yes?
Yeah, I agree, that meat eaters should be hunters, and eaters of fish should be fisherman. Honestly, I’m not a killer, but between the two, fishing seems a lot less blood thirsty, and yeah, it doesn’t feel great to kill a fish, I would agree with Wombat though that clubbing a fish over the head is more humane then letting it suffocate to death. I know from experience actually, my dad was a fisherman and a hunter, and I personally experienced those lessons.
Reasonable post BB
Everyone who glorifies or even mildly approves of suicide should just fuck off and do it. Yes that means you.
I never said anything glorifying suicide Vladjermen the faggot furry with shit taste in video games, your subhuman 80 IQ Baltic brain mixed up different people together. It’s unfortunate but not surprising, considering your people’s basic inability to recognize patterns. Croats might as-well be niggers. Your tastes are niggers tastes and your thoughts are nigger thoughts. The Ustate were niggers in nazi uniforms and the Baltics are where Europe’s IQ score goes to die.
Actually this is a insult to niggers, I’m pretty sure black people have invented more things and have created more worthwhile art than Cr’ts have. A nigger invented peanut butter, which is more than can be said for the village idiots of Europe.
How hard did you have to be molested as a child to turn into this?
I dunno, how often did your parents beat you to cope with the fact they lived in such a shithole?
@big bird
If a billionaire figuring out a protocol to optimize every biomarker that can be measured all at the same time doesn’t impress you then we have nothing more to discuss.
I hope you enjoy whatever superstitious voodoo diet you religiously adhere to, at least before it inevitably kills you.
@Fucko:
Yeah, right. And ironically we probably follow a very similar diet.
Anyway, as Muppets pointed out above, the guy also got the vax and is likely vaccine damaged. Also, I was looking at his before and after pictures, and he actually looked healthier before the protocol. Now he looks like a gaunt weirdo. And no I’m not impressed by any billionaire, as far as I’m concerned they’re all evil, no one gets to that level of wealth without selling their soul. Which is probably why he is so desperately trying to live forever.
It’s ForestGhost who claims that suicide is the greatest form of enlightenment. He is demonic, and should repent.
“Anhedonia”. Never heard that new buzzword for depressions. But I like it. “Depression” is so sucked dry, nobody reacts anymore if you say you have depressions, because we all have depressions.
I followed that story about Ziz very interested because Ziz has some thoughts very similar to mine, but it all went terribly wrong with Ziz.
Read this about the core of his/her believe:
“Ziz bases her social theories on the idea that a person is made up of “core” and “structure”. Structure is the derived aspects of a persons identity and skillset, it is everything that is downstream of their chosen strategy. Core is the thing which chooses a strategy, it is what has moral patiency in Ziz’s theories. Ziz writes that each person has two cores made up of their left and right hemispheres. Each of these is considered a full person, and when Ziz says “person” she really means an animal’s core.”
But compared to my five-fold model his model is underdeveloped.
I also have no ugly Ubermensch-attitudes because I see my part in the “Team” not that important like him.
It’s really sad for me: There is someone who walked a similar way like me, was even able to use his “power” to become a leader of a cult … and ended up as murdering maniac.
I have a cousin who’s in the French Foreign Legion. One time he gave me a piece of advice that I’ll never forget – “When you’re lost, suffer.”
I like this.
He’s a man who’s seen some shit. I trust his wisdom.
Quote: “What first made me skeptical about veganism is (…) how keen many vegans were on “abolishing suffering” altogether”
This is very Dostoevsky.
In his time the people who were very keen on “abolishing suffering” were the various revolutionaries, socialists, social engineers…
Dostoyevsky was very keen on the personal maladies of the time. And I think Rin is referring to the troon that used to post here not too long ago. He’s a good example of what those pussy religions – weeabooism, veganism, transgenderism – do to a guy. You can see he only surrounds himself with people who agree with him. Good people do that too sometimes, but the difference between them and him is that even after that, he’s clearly still not happy. When you build an echo chamber, be careful what you’re echoing.
If animal suffering doesn’t matter than human suffering doesn’t matter either.
Sensitive Idiot, your suffering doesn’t matter to me one iota.
I care about animals more than hoomans, don’t feel sorry for men, especially people like you.
It doesn’t. Not from a moral perspective, anyway. Minimizing human suffering has always been a question of herd survival. Nothing else.
Peak Baltnigger subhuman reptile mentality.
It’s true. If you had any degree of empathy or awareness of the world beyond your own nose, you’d see it. Suffering isn’t an immoral force. It’s a morally neutral phenomenon, like the wind. It’s a part of nature, nothing more. It does suck when it occurs in the wrong places, but so does anything.
Vegans, like the troon that left, generally lack that kind of awareness. They see the world through a filter of ”Me! Me! Me!”. And in general, I see many of their viewpoints are based on butthurt. Niggers simp for animals (and more often than not, minorities) because they’re the only living beings that didn’t stuff them inside lockers. The fact that you always have an
angry litany of insults for anyone who doesn’t agree with you shows that. It’s not a moral belief. It’s a tribe.
> Peak Baltnigger subhuman reptile mentality
Apropos of nothing but I was recently exposed to a TikTok vid which explained how domesticated cats have slit pupils while all other wildcats (tigers, lions, panthers) have round pupils.
Very strange.
They further explained that the only other creatures which have slit pupils are reptiles like snakes and lizards.
Hmmm
And that domesticated cats “hiss” like snakes.
Rad has said he hates domesticated cats, while I’ve said I love them.
Hmmm
@Vlajdermen
Oh, right.. He hasn’t commented in a long time.
Now that you mentioned it, there seems to be a connection with echo chambers. The chambers mean we are not open (but “closed systems”). Perhaps there’s a phobia of others, too.
@SyM
Those revolutionaries were usually mean to others and even each other (even murdering former comrades). So very often they didn’t really care about suffering, it was just… I dunno… something else was hidden there. Or perhaps they hadn’t found the root cause of suffering.
I am only guessing from recurring motifs in Dostoevsky’s novels.
Dostoevsky in his youth was in revolutionary and progressive literary circles. So he had experience from inside.
> Those revolutionaries were usually mean to others and even each other (even murdering former comrades). So very often they didn’t really care about suffering, it was just… I dunno… something else was hidden there. Or perhaps they hadn’t found the root cause of suffering.
The root cause of suffering is that life feeds on life.
What makes humans a wildcard is that they are capable of imagining narratives which convince each other that this bloodsport is in the service of some “ideal” or another.
This mutual delusion works for a while.
Until it doesn’t.
> The root cause of suffering is that life feeds on life.
I didn’t get this, to be honest. Do you mean our diets? Or maybe the constant fight for space, Lebensraum, resources, pleasures?..
Hey Rin, do you think this overabstraction of life and not intetacting with the physical world is what’s driving the fertility rate down?
IMO, very likely.
We could also say that the overabstraction and lack of interaction with the physical world is like avoiding to relate (with the world, with others).
In general, if you see things that undermine relating (e.g. hardcore ideologies), go the other way..
And that’s probably where eating disorders come from, since food is a relationship with the world.
“ik zie achter iedere man een fornuis” lol. Things really have changed. Now, men have to be careful not to end up there. Good post.
Rintrah’s latest here is really brilliant, keeps me reading.
Off topic, here’s something for anyone jonesing for a fix of Geert doom porn: https://philipmcmillan.substack.com/p/the-immune-escape-tipping-point
Nothing new from Geert. I do know from a local insurance company that cancer cases have increased significantly recently and they have removed cancer coverage from some of their health insurance products.
@Vlajderman
> Suffering isn’t an immoral force. It’s a morally neutral phenomenon, like the wind. It’s a part of nature, nothing more. It does suck when it occurs in the wrong places, but so does anything
How far are you willing to take this principle of yours?
Is “survival at any price” your polestar?
Hypothetically speaking, if we find ourselves in a world where humans are required to reproduce in order to consume their human offspring in order for “life to continue” would you be ok with such a world?
Parents eating the embryos of their reproduction..
At what point does the horror shock your conscience?
(Assuming you have one)
Where do you draw the line?
Looking at you, Wombat:
The Dead Kennedys “Where Do Ya Draw The Line?”
Seems like the more I think I know
The more I find I don’t
Every answer opens up so many questions
Anarchy sounds good to me
Then someone asks, “Who’d fix the sewers?”
“Would the rednecks just play king of the neighborhood?”
How many liberators really want to be dictators?
Every theory has its holes when real life steps in
So how do we feed and make room
For all the people crowded on our earth
And transfer all that wealth from the rich to those who need it?
Where do ya draw the line?
Where do ya draw the line?
Where do ya draw the line?
I’m not telling you, I’m asking you
Ever notice how hard line radicals
Can go on star trips too
Where no one’s pure and right except themselves?
“I’m cleansed of the system”
(Except when my amp needs electric power)
Or “the Party Line says NO!
feminists can’t wear fishnets”
You wanna help stop war? Well, we reject your application
You crack too many jokes and you eat meat
What better way to turn people off than to twist ideas for change
Into one more church that forgets we’re all human beings?
Where do ya draw the line?
Where do ya draw the line?
Where do ya draw the line?
I’m not telling you, I’m asking you
In Toronto someone blew up a cruise missile warhead plant
10 slightly hurt, 4 million dollars damage
Why not destroy private property when it’s used against you and me?
Is that violence or self-defense? You tell me
Where do ya draw the line? I’m not telling you, I’m asking you
Where do ya draw the line? I’m not telling you, I’m asking you
Where do ya draw the line? I’m not telling you, I’m asking you
Where do ya draw the line?
Oops
https://youtu.be/1IDtQH2Wapg?si=8ltJkdN317a158n6
Now you’ve got me on a Dead Kennedy’s trip
Kennedy was killed by the (((Usual Suspects)))
Before I became a progressive-rock Rush lolbert geek, I was a huge Dead Kennedy’s fan.
This track is glorious. More relevant today than ever.
Especially when you realize just (((who))) is in control in America. This is from 1986
https://youtu.be/uZFfnVpbyAE?si=Y-457nqvk7OxU3RI
Finally got to Washington in the middle of the night
I couldn’t wait, I headed straight for the Capitol Mall
My heart began to pound. “Yahoo, it really exists
The American International Pictures logo”
I looked up at that Capitol building, couldn’t help but wonder why
I felt like saying “Hello, old friend”
Walked up the hill to touch it, then I unzipped my pants
And pissed on it when nobody was looking
Like a great eternal Klansman
With his two flashing red eyes
Turn around, it’s always watching
The Washington Monument pricks the sky
With flags for pubic hair ringed ’round the bottom
The symbols of our heritage lit up proudly in the night
Somehow fits to see the homeless people passed out on the lawn
So this is where it happens, the power games and the bribes
All lobbying for a piece of ass
Of the stars and stripes of corruption
Makes me feel so ashamed to be an American
When we’re too stuck up to learn from our mistakes
Trying to start another Vietnam, like fiddling while Rome burns at home
The boss says, “You’re laid off, blame the Japanese”
America’s back, alright, at the game it plays the worst
Strip mining the world like a slave plantation
No wonder others hate us, and the Hitlers we handpick
To bleed their people dry for our evil empire
Drugs we’re fed to make us like it
Is God and country with a bang
People we know who should know better
Howl “America rules, let’s go to war!”
Business scams are what’s worth dying for!
But are the Soviets our worst enemy?
We’re destroying ourselves instead
Who cares about our civil rights as long as I get paid
The blind “me-generation” doesn’t care if life’s a lie
So easily used, so proud to enforce —
The stars and stripes of corruption
Let’s bring it all down, let’s bring it all down
Let’s bring it all down, down, down, down, down, down
Down, down, down, down, down, down
Down, down, down, down, down, down
Tell me who’s the real patriots, the Archie Bunker slobs waving flags?
Or the people with the guts to work for some real change?
Rednecks and bombs don’t make us strong
We loot the world, yet we can’t even feed ourselves
Our real test of strength is caring, not the war toys we sell the world
Just carry on, thankful to be farmed like worms
Old Glory for a blanket as you suck on your thumbs
Real freedom scares you ’cause it means responsibility
So you chicken out and threaten me!
Saying, “Love it or leave it”
I’ll get beat up if I criticize it
You say you’ll fight to the death to save your useless flag
If you want a banana republic that bad
Why don’t you go move to one?
But what can just one of us do
Against all that money and power trying to crush us into roaches?
We won’t destroy society in a day
Until we change ourselves first from the inside out
We can start by not lying so much and treating other people like dirt
It’s so easy not to base our lives on how much we can scam
And you know it feels good to lift that monkey off our back!
I’m thankful I live in a place where I can say the things I do
Without being taken out and shot
So I’m on guard against the goons trying to take my rights away
We’ve got to rise above the need for cops and laws
Let kids learn communication instead of schools pushing competition
How about more art and theater instead of sports?
People will always do drugs, let’s legalize them
Crime drops when the mob can’t price them
Budget’s in the red, let’s tax religion
No one will do it for us
We’ll just have to fix ourselves
Honesty ain’t all that hard
Just put Rambo back inside your pants
Causing trouble for the system is much more fun!
Thank you for the toilet paper
But your flag is meaningless to me
Look around, we’re all people, who needs countries anyway?
Our land, I love it too
I think I love it more than you
I care enough to fight
The stars and stripes of corruption
Let’s bring it all down
Let’s bring it all down
Let’s bring it all down
If we don’t try, if we just lie
If we can’t find a way to do better than this, who will?
Another premonition by The Dead Kennedy’s
https://youtu.be/MxayQLVs9Ww?si=sBPDRvyv7xnKXAka
Cold concrete apartments
Rise up from wet black asphalt
Below them a few carcasses
Of the long-gone age of privacy
It takes a scary kind of illness
To design a place like this for pay
Downtown’s an endless generic mall
Of video games and fast food chains
One by one, the little houses are bricked up and condemned
A subtle hint to move before the rats move in
This could be anywhere
Could be anywhere
Everywhere
Those new kids at school seem cool
But dad says not to talk to them
Stick to your old friends, they’re not our kind
So now there’s lots of fights
So many people I know
Come of age tense and bitter-eyed
Can’t create so they just destroy
Come on, let’s set someone’s dog on fire
Empty plastic culture slum, suburbia is a war zone now
Sprouting the kinds of gangs we thought we’d left behind
This could be anywhere
Could be anywhere
Everywhere
Could be anywhere
Could be everywhere
Could be anywhere
Kids at school are taking sides
Along color and uniform lines
My dad’s gone and bought a gun
He says he’s fed up with the crime in this town
This could be anywhere
This could be everywhere
This could be anywhere
This could be everywhere
This could be anywhere (anywhere)
This could be everywhere (everywhere)
This could be anywhere (anywhere)
This could be everywhere
I hope I’m gone before it explodes
I linger late at night waiting for the bus
No amount of neon jazz could hide the oozing vibes of death
My dad’s a vigilante now, he’s bringing home these weird-ass friends
Like the guy who fires blanks at his TV when Kojak’s on
Or the guy who shows off his sub-machine gun
To his sixteen year old daughter’s friends
Whose sense of pride and hope is being in the police reserve
This could be anywhere
Could be everywhere
Could be anywhere
Everywhere
This could be anywhere
This could be everywhere
This could be anywhere
This could be everywhere
Everywhere
Jello’s a bit of a cunt really: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq0wEgvl75I
Wonder how that rat juice he spruiked is working out for him?
Where do I draw the line?
Well, injecting an experimental genetic therapy for one.
I thought about it, and made up my mind not to, which happily for me, aligned with my mental, moral and spiritual values.
As for that song, it seems like a bit of projection from the old Jello going on there in some of those lyrics – just which ‘liberator’ was it who joined the camp of the brainwashing dictators again?
And the reality that he helped create seems to be answering some of his own questions about how to ‘feed everyone’ – the rat juice and virus will fix that.
I used to like him, but now he seems like some sort of arsehole to me. I used to like Chomsky too, but now, well. . .
It’s hard for me to explain, but it seems to me that good and evil can be hard to tell apart – they sort of mirror each other.
You will know them by their works, I guess.
It’s reached the point now where simply behaving like a decent human being has become a truly radical act against ‘the man’.
And look, unless you think you’re incapable of decency without a boot on your face, forever, and you believe that the elites deserve to rule over you because they are inherently superior to you, and you believe that the system should be a sub-zero sum game Machiavellian nightmare, then I suspect more of you are ‘anarchists’ (or Christians) than you realize.
But I’m not interested in proselytizing about this.
Events are going to play out how they must according to God’s plan.
“But I’m not interested in proselytizing about this.”
Although events seem to keep me talking about it – and you are goading me into it in this case Mehen.
I suppose I ‘should’ say that I want to convert everyone. Sounds exhausting. I say it reluctantly.
But then, I don’t seem to get much choice do I? You are relentless about pushing the ‘darkside’ Mehen, so inevitably, we are going to clash owing to our differences.
The bit I don’t get, as I used to argue to a Satanist friend of mine, is why choose the losing side?
And more importantly, why be a cunt?
Just blows my mind that anyone would ‘willingly’ go there.
Thinking about it now, perhaps nobody does.
Go on Mehen, do us all a favour, go and get yourself baptized and give us some peace.
Get your soul back just like that.
There, now I’ve discharged my duty and can relax.
The rest is up to God.
Baron von Wombat, I have a mental vision of Mehen as a little boy being relentlessly chased by small devils, who prod him to run in the direction of horrible things which he then picks up and joyously plays with, not understanding that they are horrible and damaging to him. I don’t know how he can be baptized with fire and the Holy Spirit; that is what would work but God will have to intervene.
What happened to Jello? From this prophetic classic to spruiking rat juice for ‘the man!’
We got a drug
We’re gonna try it out on you
Won’t make you die
It’ll getcha just a little bit sick
Got a head cold, got a chest cold
And it’s three days old
Goin’ on forever
Make you hazy, make you lazy
Drive you crazy
For days and days and days and days and days and years
Barely got the time now
To stay on the job
Double up the dosage in your water supply
Make you even sicker ’til you’re slippin’ away
Getting all depressed
It’s getting all your friends
You can’t get it up
For nothing that’ll rock the boat
The government flu
The government flu
The government flu
Slip it abroad
Keep a-slowin’ down the USSR
But meanwhile
We’ll keep an eye on what it’s doin’ to you
Got a head cold, got a chest cold
And it’s three days old
Goin’ on forever
Make you hazy, make you lazy
Drive you crazy
For days and days and days and days and days
And days and days and days and days and days
And days and days and days and days and days and years
The government flu
The government flu
The government flew
Through you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlWRs00EAp0
Just shot that up, cheers Wombat. Geert is very interesting even though it’s a struggle to understand what the fuck he’s talking about half the time. He also has a reassuringly massive head.
You should really have put a “black man in this video” trigger warning for Sensitive and Fucko though. They may get excited.
“The Zizians are an informal group of rationalists with anarchist and vegan beliefs who also believe the hemispheres of the brain can have conflicting interests and identities. They are allegedly involved in six violent deaths in the United States, three in 2022 and three in 2025.”
They remind me of the “Demons”. That novel was inspired by Nechayev (1870s Russia, he wrote “catechism of a revolutionary”) and his circle, who reached similar extremes.
I like to watch the Space Weather News guy. You know, or maybe you don’t know, but in case you didn’t, the pole shift is happening, we’re right on the cusp of it. Whether it’s today or tomorrow or next year, it’s definitely near.
This latest clip he shared is so interesting, about cognitive overload and pattern recognition. It sounds autistic, right? People who are very bright and able to connect the dots in ways that most people don’t, become an asset to those who are evil, if they “get with the program”, but if they rebel, they are diagnosed with mental illness, and medicated until they forget.
https://x.com/SunWeatherMan/status/1925349047474561255#m
@big bird:
You do not have to like or agree with everything about a person in order for them to be able to be a valuable source of information.
If you categorically rule out someone’s findings because of their tax bracket and net worth, you are a dolt.
Go ahead and remain so, I’m just letting you know that your mindset reflects the weird dogmatism of internet addicts, not actual sanity or pragmatism.
@Fucko: You’ve misinterpreted what I wrote. I suggest you reread the earlier exchange.
It all started with a comment about sitting in the sun. Most of us acknowledge that a little bit of sunshine is healthy. You appear to think otherwise, which is fine, I even said so, that maybe staying out the sun is best for your own unique chemistry, but doesn’t mean that’s the case for everyone else, and then you mentioned this Bryan Johnson as evidence supporting your viewpoint. So I look him up and mentioned that I wasn’t impressed. And also presented evidence from his own website stating that he wasn’t as against getting sunlight as you made him out to be.
Then you stated: “If a billionaire figuring out a protocol to optimize every biomarker that can be measured all at the same time doesn’t impress you then we have nothing more to discuss.”
So mentioned that I wasn’t impressed by billionaires. I never said that people that I dislike or disagree with can’t be valuable sources of information. For instance, I consider you to be a valuable source of information on some of the topics you’ve written about here, and even though I disagree with you on this topic, I’ve never once dismissed you as someone who doesn’t have anything valuable to say.
Your comment is based on groundless assumptions. I noticed your pattern is to automatically dismiss anyone who doesn’t agree with you. And you are doing it again by suggesting that my “mindset reflects the weird dogmatism of internet addicts, not actual sanity or pragmatism.”
But the only one showing weird dogmatism and lack of pragmatism in this comment exchange is you.
Fart
Byran Johnson, 2018, 2023, 2024: https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/millionaire-bryan-johnson-shares-pics-of-his-age-reversing-transformation-over-6-years-5411600.
He looks like he has poisoned himself, but it could be the covid; who knows.
Yeah no big deal, he’s just vastly superior to you in every biomarker, he’s biologically 20 and ages 5 months for every chronological year, but hey he looks kind of goofy so that’s all irrelevant.
Ask me how I know you’re retarded
Yes, a person who is selling a product line would never fib about something like his biomarkers: https://blueprint.bryanjohnson.com/collections/all-products?srsltid=AfmBOoqC1275Y96I95Vhgsd2Xx1K4CBzsfDmswwz-Eg1yU8hj74SiOBi.
Also, humans are pretty good at detecting signs of health or illness in other humans. He looks sick. I don’t hate the man; I wish him well and I hope his experiments work out in the long run.
His biomarkers are superior to yours, you are just too retarded to comprehend what you’re looking at. You looking at Johnson is like a cockroach looking at a cathedral, it’s completely wasted on you.
Then again I’m not surprised; I completely wrote you off after your diet made your arteries just as crispy as the worst carnivore’s and you STILL didn’t update your perspective.
Your shit doesn’t work, you are mentally dysfunctional, truth is wasted on you
> you are just too retarded to comprehend what you’re looking at.
> Your shit doesn’t work, you are mentally dysfunctional, truth is wasted on you
And yet you constantly eat sardines from an aluminium can with a BPA lining. This doesn’t bother you?
Fucko is such a hick I bet he goes out and lets the catfish bite his hands as he digs em out of the mud.
Fucko, I wrote a number of times that when I found out being vegan was harming my health I stopped being vegan. You responded to those posts at the time.
You don’t read others’ posts with comprehension, and you misremember things. That can explain your irritation; people who are constantly finding that they are wrong about things become very irate. That is why demented people become enraged. Maybe you have always been that way, or maybe you have covid brain damage.
Since you probably can’t remedy this, your only hope (really your only hope anyway) is to become a kindly person. Then people won’t mind that you keep getting things wrong.
It is very strange that you keep telling people that you have “written them off.” You do this in response to them pointing out an error that you have made. I don’t think people much care about your doing this,, but you think they care. That means you are focusing on yourself too much.
@Fucko: “he’s biologically 20 and ages 5 months for every chronological year”.
I’m wondering if that was before the clot shot, or after? After all there’s 18 year old star athletics with superior biomarkers dropping dead from heart attacks left and right. Also, everything he’s doing is entirely experimental, and it’s still very early into the experiment, so we’ll see how he’s doing ten years from now, if he survives that long.
The other weird thing I just found out about this Bryan character is that he’s vegan!
I’m pretty sure Fucko has made comments here before speaking out against veganism. And yet, this guy he adores, who he seems to believe is the healthiest man in the world, or at least attempting to be, is vegan? And most people that look at him think he looks sick. And then you counter with the implication that just because he looks sick doesn’t mean he is, and that he’s actually healthier than most, because his biomarkers say so. That’s where we are at.
I don’t know how many sick people you’ve been around, people with dying of cancer, they don’t look healthy, at all. I know there’s this old saying not to judge a book by its cover, but things like health and sickness, it very much shows on the face, and unless they got a case of the suddenly, clot shot fever, whatever the case may be, healthy people don’t look sick. Being observant of this fact is not retarded, it’s just common sense, but the people who choose to ignore common sense do so at their own peril.
Now I’m seeing that Bryan has loads of cosmetic procedures done on an ongoing basis, so who knows what he actually looks like.
“At the moment, Bryan Johnson is also experimenting with the following treatments:
Sculptra: An injectable dermal filler based on poly-L-lactic acid, which aims to stimulate collagen production, smooth wrinkles, and boost skin elasticity
Sofwave: A non-invasive ultrasound device that uses ultrasound technology to help tighten the skin and mitigate fine lines
Non-bleeding microneedling with hyaluronic acid: A non-invasive procedure that entails the puncturing of the skin with thin needles to stimulate collagen production and treat imperfections such as wrinkles and pores
Renuva: A non-surgical alternative to fat grafting, which aims to reverse age-related facial volume loss and restore your contours
PRF (platelet-rich fibrin): An injectable treatment with your own blood, which aims to promote tissue repair, improve skin texture, and boost hair regrowth
Cutera Excel V coolview & genesis: A precision laser treatment that can help with vascular and pigmentation issues and lead to a clearer complexion
Fotona Dynamis Pro 4D: A non-invasive laser facelift that is supposed to bring various benefits, including more even skin tone and texture, wrinkle reduction, and volume restoration
Microbotox: Small botox injections that help shrink facial pores and wrinkles”
He also has Tixel done every 4-8 weeks.
This is a wish list for an aging lady who has unlimited money. I don’t want to sound unkind, but that is what it is.
If I were trying to convince people that my “live forever” program were working, I would not be doing artificial things to look younger. People who are aging really well don’t need those treatments. It is understandable for aging women to want to have facial treatments to look better, but that is not the same as being healthy.
His protocol is only the side effect of a thought process, and that thought process is correct. He said himself that there is no reason his protocol must be v-gan except his own technopholic soy ideological leaning.
The fact that you didn’t even look that deep into it is unsurprising; you are only looking to dunk on me, not to understand.
You have also been written off long ago.
>He said himself that there is no reason his protocol must be v-gan
Actually diet is a huge thing, you can’t do his program eating steak and burgers everyday. What he meant by that is you don’t have to be an ideological vegan, and you’re allowed to cheat and eat me*t sometimes, bluprint is a vegan diet however. You’re supposed to eat in a very specific way to get his results.
The shit we waste our time talking about, I wish Fallout was real sometimes.
It’s ridiculous to wish for world genocide and then spend your time arguing with 40 year old women about skin care and diet btw.
“You have also been written off long ago.”
You are clearly a narcissistic psychopath. Every comment of yours is all about “me me me, I know so much more than you, your disagreement is merely a symptom of your retarded intellect”. That’s literally your response to anyone who disagrees with you.
It’s not surprising that you don’t like the sun, because your heart is so full of darkness, you are naturally repelled by the light.
Big Bird, there is a more charitable way to interpret this. Fucko says that Bryan Johnson is his role model and ideal, and he promotes his practices. But he gets his practices very wrong, and becomes angry and abusive when this is pointed out. This looks like brain damage to me. I know that you think that it is the vax that causes brain damage (and it does), but unfortunately covid itself does as well, per the dog study in Korea and other studies (and Rintrah is of that opinions). We could all end up like Fucko after enough variants go through; we probably will (minus the racism).
@Wombat
>And the reality that he helped create seems to be answering some of his own questions about how to ‘feed everyone’ – the rat juice and virus will fix that.
Fair.
>It’s reached the point now where simply behaving like a decent human being has become a truly radical act against ‘the man’.
Indeed.
I wonder if you understand how things have come to this?
@wombat
>The bit I don’t get, as I used to argue to a Satanist friend of mine, is why choose the losing side?
Are you SURE it’s the “losing side?”
Personally, I’m hardly certain of anything.
>Just blows my mind that anyone would ‘willingly’ go there.
If there is anything the last 5 years have shown us, is that all of our major (((institutions))) are thoroughly corrupt, yet they still reward status-anxious individuals with sinecures for their conformity.
LSWMs will suffer — except for those LSWMs who have pledged fealty to the Linked-In bloodless corporate-speak.
Those are the ones who have assimilated into The Borg and will be taken care of.
The rest — not so much.
@Wombat
>Go on Mehen, do us all a favour, go and get yourself baptized and give us some peace.
I was baptized as an infant. Apparently it didn’t take.
@Karen
>Baron von Wombat, I have a mental vision of Mehen as a little boy being relentlessly chased by small devils, who prod him to run in the direction of horrible things which he then picks up and joyously plays with, not understanding that they are horrible and damaging to him.
Somewhat accurate!
Love ya, Karen!
{{{hugs}}}
>I don’t know how he can be baptized with fire and the Holy Spirit; that is what would work but God will have to intervene.
Probably.
Birthing a child might do the trick, but I’m too old for that. Radagast on the other hand…
https://youtu.be/ed_UWFr13pU?si=pfmP_qq7TMhoIXoy
Here, from the king’s mountain view
Here, from the wild dream come true
Feast like a sultan, I do
On treasures and flesh, never few
But I, I would wish it all away
If I thought I’d lose you just one day
The Devil and His had me down
In love with the dark side I’d found
Dabblin’ all the way down
Up to my neck, soon to drown
But you changed that all for me
Lifted me up, turned me ’round
So I… I… I… I
I would, I would, I would wish this all away
Prayed like a martyr dusk to dawn
Begged like a hooker all night long
Tempted the Devil with my song
And got what I wanted all along
But I, and I would
If I could, then I would
Wish it away
Wish it away
Wish it all away
Wanna wish it all away
No prize that could hold sway
Or justify my giving away my center
So if I could, I’d wish it all away
If I thought tomorrow would take you away
You, my peace of mind, my all, my center
Just trying to hold on one more day
Damn my eyes
Damn my eyes
Damn my eyes if they should compromise the fulcrum
If wants and needs divide me, then I might as well be gone…
Shine on forever
Shine on, benevolent sun
Shine down upon the broken
Shine until the two become one
Shine on forever
Shine on, benevolent sun
Shine down upon the severed
Shine until the two become one
Divided, I’m withering away
Divided, I’m withering away
Shine on upon the many
Light our way, benevolent sun
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
Breathe in union
So, as one, survive
Another day and season
Silence, legion, save your poison
Silence, legion, stay out of my way…
Mehen sir, I just want to thank you for introducing me to the Platonic Surrealist guy. He is very interesting.
“Are you SURE it’s the “losing side?”
Personally, I’m hardly certain of anything.”
I’ve won the first battle 🙂
“I wonder if you understand how things have come to this?”
Yes, that would be Satan.
You will get no argument from me that the system/institutions are all corrupted. It feels to me like this was well underway before my time and has accelerated. Nowadays, being anti-Christian is as common as any other mainstream virtue signaling activity that gets performed, in public of course, for everyone’s own ‘good’ and for the ‘good’ of society, by the ‘good’ corporate citizens.
You might like the Christian thing Mehen – it’s the last truly radical thing left.
@SYM
> Mehen sir, I just want to thank you for introducing me to the Platonic Surrealist guy. He is very interesting.
Could that be because you feel an affinity with his autism and fattiness???
No matter.
Apropos of nothing, but modern day Tool fans are the Rush geeks of yesteryear.
Now you will understand why I am single and scare the hoes
https://youtu.be/EShM-EOAlj4?si=MXlutNtBMrUqnncw
>Could that be because you feel an affinity with his autism and fattiness???
Very rude, do not make me be racist again.
He’s way way fatter than me. I starve myself constantly. It’s gotten to the point that girls are actually nice to me now, they like my long wave hair too, they don’t seem care I’m like 20 pounds overweight.
I’m probably more autistic, I managed to convince myself I was the incarnation of Hitler after getting really fucked up shrooms and weed one time. Wish I could enjoy drugs like a normal person tbh. That shit is retarded.
Listen the synchronicities lined up, it made sense at the time.
Like no, I can’t just relax and enjoy the pretty colors when I’m high, I have to go insane. Fuck my life.
I like Platonic Surrealism because it’s actually sane and says these experiences are real but arbitrary, which seems about right. There’s nothing coherent about experiences with aliens or spirits, one person’s experiences don’t tend up line up with another’s. It’s all just egregores, even the Demiurge. Make your own God and Devil basically.
Kinda just loops back around to religious experiences just being tantamount to hallucinations functionally, even if there’s deeper stuff going on in the background.
Fall into your own idiosyncratic hallucinations when you die, they become your new reality.
I AM A FUCKING BULL, 100% MEROVINVGIAN TAURUS ANCESTRY!!!!
HONESTAS, INDUSTRIA, PRUDENTIA!!!
> Wish I could enjoy drugs like a normal person tbh.
You and me both
>Like no, I can’t just relax and enjoy the pretty colors when I’m high, I have to go insane. Fuck my life.
You and me both.
(Fatass)
>HONESTAS, INDUSTRIA, PRUDENTIA!!!
Hmmm