What civilization needs to maintain complexity is a source of energy that has a high ratio of energy returned on energy invested (EROI). If it takes you one oil barrel to transport and refine a barrel of oil you extract from the ground, you can’t maintain a civilization. You can find estimates that the minimum EROI for economic growth to occur has to be at least 11.
The entire green energy transition we’re pursuing now, results in a low EROI. The consequences of this are not immediately obvious. Sure, you can add solar panels to the grid. Sure, you can ride electric vehicles. Sure, you can even store your solar energy using batteries. And then you can charge your electric vehicles using the energy stored in those batteries. But as you do all of this, the overall EROI of your infrastructure declines.
In Germany (and thus the Netherlands too), the EROI for solar panels is 3.9. If you want to store the solar energy, you’re left with an EROI of 1.9. With subsidies you can add such energy sources to the grid, but you can’t build a civilization on the back of such numbers. For stored wind energy, you’re looking at an EROI of 3.9. This is not immediately obvious when you begin your transition. It’s only with high saturation of the grid, that the EROI problem reveals itself, as until that time you’re just mixing it in with high EROI fossil fuels.
To produce solar panels, you need very pure Silicon with no contaminants, which is produced by mining high purity quartz. Eventually you run out of the best quality quartz and your cost goes up to refine the lower quality stuff. China is seeing the carbon footprint of its solar panels jump up, because they’re moving towards lower quality quartz, that needs more refining.
The problem with solar and wind emerges when you try to run the grid on these sources, because you also need to keep alternatives on standby, which is costly. In Germany, with 95% of electricity provided by wind and solar, this leads to the following cost estimate:
| EIA LCOE (2020) USD$/MWh | LFSCOE-95 (Germany, EU) USD$/MWh | LFSCOE-95 (Texas, US) USD$/MWh | LFSCOE-100 (Germany, EU) USD$/MWh | LFSCOE-100 (Texas, US) USD$/MWh | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Biomass | 95 | 90 | 95 | 104 | 117 |
| Coal (ultra-supercritical) | 76 | 67 | 72 | 78 | 90 |
| Natural Gas (combined cycle) | 38 | 31 | 32 | 35 | 40 |
| Natural Gas (combustion turbine) | 67 | 36 | 37 | 39 | 42 |
| Nuclear | 82 | 90 | 96 | 106 | 122 |
| Solar | 36 | 849 | 177 | 1548 | 413 |
| Wind | 40 | 279 | 131 | 504 | 291 |
| Wind and Solar | not supplied | 220 | 97 | 454 | 225 |
I made the German estimate for solar and wind at 95% of the grid bold. That compares very unfavorably in cost to a grid that’s mostly natural gas. In other words, what happens is that in a global economic competition, countries with a solar + wind grid won’t be able to compete with those that stick to natural gas.
We’re not going to store wind and solar energy at any significant scale. Lithium batteries are more efficient than lead batteries, you’re looking at 95% round trip efficiency for Lithium, versus 75-85% for lead batteries. The problem unfortunately, is that if you wanted to base the grid on lithium batteries, you would rapidly run into a lithium shortage. Even lead is insufficiently available in the Earth’s crust.
The EROI problem isn’t just a problem for renewable energy, it’s a problem for fossil fuels too. We extracted the best and easiest fossil fuels first, so now we’re left with the poor quality stuff:

Trump is embarrassed, because the oil companies refuse to invest in Venezuela. The economy is simply not capable of raising prices of oil to the level where these companies would make a profit extracting Venezuelan oil, so they’re not eager to jump in.
So is nuclear going to bail us out? I wouldn’t count on it. The world faces a crucial uranium shortage by the 2030’s. There’s simply not a whole lot of uranium available in the Earth’s crust, if we wanted to get a 100% of our energy from uranium it would be gone in five years. Extraction from seawater is not going to happen either.
The energy returned on energy invested for nuclear energy is estimated at 5. That is, you need 0.2 kwh to produce 1 kwh. That seems to be the best estimate I can find. As you can see here, an EROI of 5 allows you to grow food, but you can’t sustain much complexity beyond that:

The most important factor in the EROI of nuclear energy is the ore grade of the uranium used. The ore grade is not going to get any better, it’s just going to decline in the years ahead. In other words, the EROI of nuclear energy is merely going to get worse in the years ahead.
We’re not just stuck with only poor EROI sources of energy. Estimates for nuclear and renewable EROI tend to vary a lot, but for hydropower, everyone agrees that the EROI is very high, an average of 110. The problem however is that we’ve already dammed all the good rivers in the developed world, it can’t grow. In fact, it’s a shrinking source of energy, because the reservoirs are being filled over time with mud. Climate change induced droughts will also interfere with hydropower.
Globally, electricity is about 20% of total energy consumption. The other 80% of energy we use is still mostly fossil fuels, used for energy intensive processes and transportation. Some of those processes can be electrified, but many others can’t. For example, air travel can’t be electrified.
Conventional oil production peaked in the mid 2000’s. Since then we’ve been mixing an increasing share of lower quality oil into the supply, like the Canadian tar sands, with a much lower energy returned on energy invested. As we exhaust the conventional oil, it becomes increasingly difficult to maintain our standard of living.
This problem doesn’t reveal itself in the form of high oil prices, because the economy can not sustain those high oil prices, high oil prices are only temporary until they result in a collapse in demand and prices go down again as a result.
As the high EROI sources of energy are exhausted on our planet, with them gradually goes the ability of this planet to sustain a complex civilization like ours. There are just no methods left that can deliver us a high EROI source of energy 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, except for the ones we’re already exhausting.
People who figure this out tend to have high hopes for various experimental forms of nuclear energy like Thorium, but we’ve had nuclear power since the 1950’s, with no significant introduction of new models. Any novel forms of nuclear energy will also have a low EROI, as logic dictates that we’ve begun with the least complex forms of harvesting the energy of the atom.
The reality is that we would be best off if we would try to conserve the scarce sources of energy this world has to offer. There is no magical source of abundant energy ahead of us. Unfortunately American elites tend to believe otherwise. The former CEO of Google thinks climate change goals should be abandoned to focus on AI, because AI will then solve climate change for us.
This won’t happen, because AI can not change the laws of physics for us. We live in a world of physical limits. If we don’t respect those limits we will suffer the consequences.
I never found EROI-based arguments to be particularly convincing. Not because the idea itself is inherently flawed, but because I am not convinced that EROI has been measured well in these arguments, or that it is really possible to map out the entirety of the global economy in the way that the proponents of this concept claim they are doing. A 200W solar panel takes up about a square meter of space, and can be expected to produce about 200kwh of power per year (on the low side since we’re probably talking about Europe), with some variation depending on location and panel quality and so on. Panels are claimed to have a lifespan of about 30 years, but in reality this is because it is roughly the length of the warranty period on new panels, not because all solar panels break at the 30-year mark. In fact, it’s not that they suddenly stop producing electricity, but that their performance degrades by an average of about 0.5-1% per year, meaning its power output halves every 100 years or so after the manufacturing date. A less picky society in the future could conceivably keep many of its panels running for a couple… Read more »
A deal of energy is lost through heat in fossil fuel applications. Electric engines are far more efficient in that regard. Other sources of renewable energy, such as geothermal are near inexhaustible, and I believe a Jap boffin has been working on tapping the temperature gradient between cold and warmer ocean waters.
Renewables are more and more being recycled for the expensive metals, and technology is moving rapidly towards batteries using sodium, rather than lithium, and other exotic types like iron batteries, sand batteries and flywheels. Let’s just leave it to the Chinese, and the collapse of fertility caused by massive chemical pollution. With luck a ‘lucky’ fifty million or so might survive, existing at high latitudes for a few hundred millennia, and then we can repeat the cycle.
The un-denial blog had a big writeup on this a couple months ago and they conclude that although it seems like there is a choice between going our with a bang as quickly as possible or conserving things for a slow decline, the latter choice will fall apart very quickly anyway because of EROI problems destroying the food distribution systems.
Furthermore, an oil blogger named Lars Larsen calculated in 2024 that the cutoff point where the world goes from having enough diesel for everybody to shortages where the diesel only goes to the 80%, 70% or 50% of the world that wins the bidding wars is going to be either the second half of 2026 or the first half of 2027. No diesel, no tractors or trucks.
I’ve invested in hiking skills and strong spirits. I make cider from store-bought fruit juice for the meantime but, when the lights go out, I’m putting a few bottles of vodka in my bag, hiking to a tall viaduct 11 miles away, downing them and flying away.
You have a very good grasp of the world as seen through the energy lens. There is a new lens called CACTUS that views the world from a complexity and scale perspective, and it provides a clearer view of what is going on.
https://un-denial.com/2025/11/30/the-cactus-lens-a-clearer-view/
So, we MUST downsize. A lower population, consuming much less. Food grown organically and locally. Public transport ubiquitous. The planet re-wilded, bio-diversity protected. In other words NO capitalism, NO billionaires, NO neoplastic growth etc. Or, the obvious alternative, already in train, the ruling parasites exterminate the ‘useless eaters’. I’m sure Epstein and his various minyans were working on it, but we WON’T see those documents.
A simple search contradicts what you say about thorium. It is claimed to have an EROI of thousands to many millions to 1. The reason it’s not used is because the US gov’t goal of making enriched uranium for weapons. Thorium is just not exciting enough for sociopaths who love war.
Ever heard of CHINA, Harry?
This latest war is a good example of the kind of status quo factors that prevent degrowth from happening.
The status quo narratives that people live inside do not comport with reality.
The world is not under rational human control.
Gotta love Hegseth’s crusader tattoos: US commanders tell troops Iran war ‘God’s divine plan,’ Trump anointed to ‘ignite Armageddon’: Report
Yes, all very cool and normal and not crazy at all 😛
You forgot fusion power.
https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2023/08/fusion-foolery/
Fusion is so ridiculous I didn’t bother to mention it, but here you go.
If I remember right, we already had this discussion and you already posted this link then, which is only focused on laser fusion, which is suspected of being nothing more than a destructive research approach to discredit fusion technology. But we talk about the tokamak approach.
There was always this rumor around that fusion technology was blocked, because they fear to much change in the energy sector. But two things has changed: The insane need of power for AI development, and the ambitions of the chinese to develop this technology. I guess the first commercial fusion reactors will come from China.
Whatever, degrowth is not an option, because degrowth means collapse. So fusion power is the only alternative.
Good writeup. Musk’s proposed data center in space is an attempt to address the energy requirements. Not sure if it is going to work though.
Gotta love dem ‘data centres’. A ‘Hail Mary’ by the vampires to create golems to exterminate the ‘useless eaters’ then police the required slaves who will be spared, to serve their Masters.
I use both lithium and lead batteries. The lithium batteries I use for the day to day charge / discharge. The lead batteries are used for multiple days where the weather results in insufficient solar generation. Then the lead batteries are discharged (never below 60% SOC). When the weather is good, then the lead batteries are charged back over several days. There is no grid where I live.
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What civilization needs to maintain complexity is a high IQ workforce that is well educated.
All of this is on a downward spiral.
Charlie, I’m curious to find out (because you’re a former Democrat voter who switched to MAGA/Trump) whether you live in a red state, blue state or swing state?
I currently reside in the very blue state of Washington. I never would have believed a few years ago that I would be voting Republican to stop the Democrats.
Lived all over, many different states.
I mostly grew up in Alabama when my liberal parents dragged me down there from Minnesota.
I live in Belfair you should come meet up. Tell me you’re coming and what time and stop on by the Safeway here.
We can have a little chat. We’ll probably hit it off and become fast friends.
Cyber Viking, Belfair is a little village in the Olympic Peninsula not that far from me that I’ve never been to.
Might take you up on that one day.
Have you lived in Washington all your life?
Born and raised here in Washington! I’ve lived here pretty much my whole life. There was a brief time when I was a toddler when we moved to Idaho but that didn’t last long and it’s a really funny story.
Yeah if you wanna come around we can walk down to the Wetlands or go down to the beach at Belfair State Park or something. Maybe have some beers if you drink. Could be fun.
Radagast has expressed interest in visiting America. He could join us for beer and mushrooms and scintillating conversation.
I don’t think Rad would want to increase his carbon footprint with a plane; and a boat ride from the Netherlands to Washington sounds like quite the trip.
Also I don’t think we’re cool enough to warrant that much effort on his part.
That would be really cool though; I’d totally do shrooms with you guys.
>Also I don’t think we’re cool enough to warrant that much effort on his part.
OK I shouldn’t say shit like this sorry.
I said early on that you were actually Charlie’s biological son, and that your terrible supposed father wasn’t, and that explains why you annoy one another so much. Sometime when your mom is half asleep sneak up and whisper “Charlie the Scorpion” in her ear.
Are you trying to scare me?
It’s working.
Seriously though sorry I don’t buy it.
My Grandfather is a cuck though he hung up when I called him.
Charlie isn’t my grandpa btw karenicna my grandpa is some high status white male with an Asian wife who doesn’t live in the U.S. My grandma tried to baby trap him during a fling and gave him genital warts in the process. I got to hear about this as a child.
There are many reasons I have never ever tried to date.
I was saying that Charlie is your father. I wasn’t saying that Charlie was your grandfather. Anyway, your mom knows best. I was figuring that this wasn’t literal, but at this point who knows.
Yeah I know I was just thinking about my actual boomer progenitors.
The stuff about Charlie being my dad is a very bizarre and contrived scenario kareninca; but that wouldn’t be so bad honestly, if the machine elves showed me this timeline during a DMT trip I’d like to believe it.
I mean right now there’s a plotline in my dreams where Eren Yeager from Attack on Titan says he’s my dad and in my last dream he sacrificed himself for me. So I guess I have very many metaphysical fathers. Plus some demon who tortured me during my childhood.
Yeah I don’t actually believe in any of that. I mean the dream plotline is real but what am I supposed to make of that? No clue. It’d be cool if it was real though. More interesting than real life since all the cool people are either in my head or on the internet and I don’t get to see them during my waking hours not on a computer.
OK I love my family so fucking much but I dunno I need friends lmao.
Chatting up the normie LSWMS around here isn’t cutting it.
God knows I’ve tried to spread my seed but I doubt he is one of mine.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure kareninca was just trying to mess with me.
https://youtu.be/3BXyEUOuNds?si=vLS5thJ_XF3OWXuR Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity Calculate what we will or will not tolerate Desperate to control all and everything Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen Clutch it like a cornerstone Otherwise, it all comes down Justify denials and grip ’em to the lonesome end Clutch it like a cornerstone Otherwise, it all comes down Terrified of being wrong Ultimatum prison cell Saturn ascends, choose One or Ten Hang on or be humbled again Humbled again… Clutch it like a cornerstone Otherwise, it all comes down Justify denials and grip ’em to the lonesome end Saturn ascends, comes around again Saturn ascends, the One, the Ten Ignorant to the damage done Wear the grudge like a crown of negativity Calculate what we will or will not tolerate Desperate to control all and everything Unable to forgive your scarlet lettermen Wear the grudge like a crown Desperate to control Unable to forgive And sinking deeper Defining, confining And sinking deeper Controlling, defining And we’re sinking deeper Saturn comes back around to show you everything Let’s you choose what you will or will not see, and then Drags you down like a stone, or lifts you up again Spits… Read more »
I am not a “mess with you” kind of person. It was more that it really struck me how much the two of you annoy one another and it was really in a father son kind of way.
Awww ok. Kind of a cute idea ngl.
Looks like an AI generated image to me.
Be careful Charlie, organ harvesting is a very real thing.
That would be the silliest way to harvest someone’s organs ever.
“Oh yeah let me just lurk some obscure blog and try to lure people to the grocery store in some shithole village so I can harvest their organs there!”
Like I imagine if you’re a baby munching high status white male who exports organs to Israel there would be more effective tactics than that.
Also pretty sure you’d want to harvest young people’s organs to get the most bang for your buck.
You know the anonymity of the internet means you can never tell if people are being genuine or not. No one acts the way they do online in real life.
Like is Big Bird just trolling or is she actually a bit wackoo? I dunno. How am I supposed to tell? The screen hides unknowable minds.
Maybe the Dead Internet Theory is real and none of you are real.
But I think I’m just going to have a selection-bias towards the most simple answer and assume you’re all real people.
You’re all welcome to come meet me at my shithole village if you’re in the area btw.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Ephesians 6:12
My understanding was that nuclear was one 100 to 1. So I drill and frac shale wells. A 10000 foot wolfcamp lateral takes about 300,000 gallons of diesel to drill and frac. At a 600,000 barrel EUR, you’re looking at 7.2 million gallons of diesel, 15 million gallons of gasoline, and another 6 million gallons of vacuum oil, jet fuel, heavy fuel oil etc. Further, you’re looking at about 2.4 BCF of gas with about 100 barrels of NGL per million cubic feet. This works out to about 240,000 barrels or nearly 10 million gallons of propane, butane etc. And finally the residue gas used to power the grid is conservatively another 12 million gallons equivalent. So 48 million gallons equivalent from 300,000 gallons input at the wellhead. Transport and refining will reduce that, but it’s way higher than you think. The Haynesville shale is a dry gas play is similar. Producing about 20 BCF of P50 dry gas per well is equivalent to about 3.3 million barrels oil equivalent energy. At 42 gallons per barrel, that is almost 140 million gallons equivalent at the wellhead from 300,000 input. You have no idea how hysterically efficient we’ve gotten doing this.… Read more »
And the ‘externalities’? You know, greenhouse gas produced by fracking wells leaking methane for decades, groundwater polluted by toxic chemicals, heavy metals and radioactivity, back roads destroyed by heavy traffic, and plastics (all that the shite recovered is good for) invading your..ahem…brain. I can smell your pecuniary interest through the screen. You swine are looking forward to Near Term Human Extinction, aren’t you.
This post diagnoses energy limits but says nothing about how degrowth would occur – the last half-century shows that voluntary contraction is politically and economically impossible within the status quo (which you and the mainstream support), so it will only happen when physical limits force it. Unless the status quo goes away, of course.
https://youtu.be/ENOfEC26OH8?si=2WI_9EtoiMNaPjs2
It’s fun to stay at the YMCA with the “supreme leader” dead.
https://youtube.com/shorts/P9NKx6Zd3_0?si=_DWqUSTH4UU4WMOt
https://youtube.com/shorts/IpUDAtlXWKs?si=Q94BXzQCsjCSV5DA
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZHulNgCz3Ss?si=6CgH3jd6vd1KxjtB
Midnight Oil – My Country (Official Video)
And did I hear you say
My country right or wrong
My country oh so strong
My country right or wrong
My country right or wrong
My country going wrong
My country right or wrong
Wombat, what’s your problem?
Is there a conflict with your communist ideology?
Karl Marx wouldn’t approve of Khamenei getting whacked?
Can you not appreciate the joy of freedom for Persians for a moment? The execrable muzzies actually defaced the Iranian flag with Arabic shit and have been oppressing the people for half a century. A month ago they slaughtered thousands of young demonstrators in the streets.
Something is wrong with you…
I BET you’re drooling over the one hundred dead school-girls, too.
There’s nothing wrong with me.
Just brought up proper in the colonies.
Midnight Oil – US Forces (Official Video)
Charlie, you say “freedom” but free to do what? I understand you’re not a liberal (any more). And I like that. So, why do the Iranians must have the same concept about freedom as others (e.g. Americans)? For example, Americans, Greeks, the whole of the West, owe dozens of thousands per capita of Public Debt. I estimate around 30,000$ each. Well, the Iranians only owe 10$ each. Who is more free? Next, about the demonstrations. Are you sure there aren’t any “false flag” operations there? No incitement to violence? Agents provocateurs? When conservatives or skeptical people say e.g. that BLM demonstrations went out of hand, isn’t it similar? Or the “euromaidan” demonstrations in Kiev? We don’t know the truth, but we should try to be careful. The demonstrations started peaceful and were allowed to happen. Iran claims (with videos) that foreign agents shot at the demonstrators. So… I mean… We can’t be sure. As for the flag, Russia’s military flag for centuries carried Greek words due to the common faith… Ο ΩΝ and ΙC ΧC ΝΙΚΑ. Faith used to be more important than nationalistic sentiments. Lastly, it’s not heroic at all to murder a grandpa around 90 years old. And… Read more »
Apaliunas, Of course I’m glad that the evil barbaric cult leader Khamenei had his lungs blown out and is now smoking in Hell with his entire family. CELEBRATE! President Trump warned him that he better negotiate, or else. The art of the deal. The time was right and it seems to be going off perfectly. Dozens of the demons were whacked on the first day of operation Eternal Fury and I couldn’t be happier. “Grandfather” you say?? The bastard was responsible for an untold amount of murderous terrorism, and the world is better off without his stupid family. I hate Islam eternally and I’m so glad beautiful Persian women are being freed from the sharia plolice, no longer have to wear head to toe black garments, and western music and dog ownership is again permissible. I come from a lineage of violent revolutionaries. One was a commodore who was captured and tortured by the British in the Revolutionary War. They ripped out his fingernails according to family lore (I can’t imagine.) Another ancestor proudly signed the Declaration of Independence telling the Empire to fuck off. The USA probably wouldn’t exist today as it is without my family of revolutionaries. It… Read more »
That “barbaric cult leader” had issued a fatwa that nuclear weapons are too inhuman and therefore not allowed by their faith. You can look it up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Khamenei%27s_fatwa_against_nuclear_weapons If I speak my mind about things it won’t end well. But of course I am genuine about the other things I say–you can comment. The freedom of being debt-free, the false flag operations, the supranational nature of faith etc.(I repeat that I don’t like it that people converted to Islam. It is very sad…) Oh, also: they were in the midst of negotiations, but guess who attacked nevertheless. I will disclose that I am very disappointed at Trump. But I still like his American voters, generally. To make it a little bit lighter, the Iranians call the attack against them something like “Operation Epstein” LOL! As for terrorism, obviously I don’t like civilians being attacked, but the Brits were calling American revolutionaries “terrorists” (also the Greeks a couple of decades later), so we need to be careful. And about the grandpa that the Operation Epstein murdered so heroically, he said multiple times that his worst nightmare was to die of age or sickness or a fall. Here he is visiting the home… Read more »
I repost the message I wrote 19 hours ago, this time without the links: That “barbaric cult leader” had issued a fatwa that nuclear weapons are too inhumane and therefore not allowed by their faith. You can look it up. [relevant link here] If I speak my mind about [some] things it won’t end well. But of course I am [also] genuine about the other things I say–you can comment. The freedom of being debt-free, the false flag operations, the supranational nature of faith etc.(I repeat that I don’t like it that people converted to Islam. It is very sad…) Oh, also: they were in the midst of negotiations, but guess who attacked nevertheless. I will disclose that I am very disappointed at Trump. But I still like his American voters, generally. To make it a little bit lighter, the Iranians call the attack against them something like “Operation Epstein” LOL! As for terrorism, obviously I don’t like civilians being attacked, but the Brits were calling American revolutionaries “terrorists” (also the Greeks a couple of decades later), so we need to be careful. And about the grandpa that the Operation Epstein murdered so heroically, he said multiple times that his… Read more »
Which part of the Declaration of Independence are you calling upon to support a crusader war in a foreign land to bring on the apocalypse and bring back Jesus in ‘Operation Epstein Fury’?
Americans. . .
Lost every war they’ve been in since the end of WWII, and only on the winning side then because of the Russians who did the lion’s share of the work.
Doesn’t sound like God’s on your side.
You also sound like you have a very selective, and very short memory.
Short Memory (Remastered Version)
Iran before the Muslims destroyed it and Lebanon.
https://youtube.com/shorts/i_B01hUJfhQ?si=aAokkL3eYT3uCqGM
Before and after ‘democracy’
The World Before and After Democracy – Freedom Memes
https://youtu.be/0EhwcUzVH4U?si=vSS6ie2qYBh3K07D
I largely agree with this. People in the 1970s were aware of the energy problem and tried to do something about it. For a short time Americans even drove small cars and had a 55 mph (90 km/hour) speed limit. The UK government funded three different organisations to write scenarios for how the next 50 years could evolve, with renewables providing more energy out of the total. These were published from 1980 to late 1982, one of them at least was a degrowth scenario.
By 1982 though, the emphasis was again on pumping oil as fast as possible … out of the North Sea … and natural gas. Once Thatcher came to power, there was no interest at all in trying to use less energy. She was an almighty disaster.
Websites setting out our predicament now include those of James H Kunstler, Gail Tverberg, John M Greer, Tim Watkins, Tim Morgan and the Honest Sorcerer. Perhaps Ugo Bardi, too.
I’ve been kind to A.I.
So A.I. will be kind to me in the future
Why is user “Kareninca” a Christian ———— I’m not sure who “Kareninca” is referring to. That looks like a username (possibly from a forum, Reddit, YouTube comments, etc.), not a widely known public figure. Because of that, there isn’t publicly documented information explaining why that specific person is Christian. In general, when someone identifies as Christian, the reasons usually fall into a few broad categories: 1. Family or Cultural Upbringing Many people become Christian because they were raised in a Christian household and the beliefs, rituals, and identity were part of their early environment. 2. Personal Religious Experience Some people report personal spiritual experiences (conversion moments, feeling “called,” answered prayers, etc.) that lead them to adopt Christianity. 3. Philosophical or Moral Conviction Others arrive at Christianity through intellectual or moral reasoning, believing its theology or ethical framework makes sense to them. 4. Community and Identity Christian churches often provide social belonging, support networks, and shared values, which can reinforce or encourage identification with the religion. 5. Conversion Later in Life Some people convert after exposure to Christian texts (like the Bible) or through influence from friends, partners, or major life events. ⸻ ✅ If you want a more specific answer,… Read more »
Ha! Little does ChatGPT know of Rintrah.nl
Heh heh heh
So now you’re setting these technological beasts on each other.
Isn’t that like Black Magic? Like calling the demons?