Anthropocentrism is the notion most humans carry, that a human being is the most important lifeform in the universe. It’s the idea that there’s something fundamentally special about us. This worldview is of course more compatible with Abrahamic religion, than with the findings we have made in the past 200 years.
We now know that human beings share a common ancestor with all other lifeforms on Earth. With some we share a very recent common ancestor, like the Chimpanzee, with others you have to go back further in time. If you go back 600 million years, you find the ancestor of all bilaterally symmetrical animals. Go back further in time by a couple hundred million years and you can find the common ancestor of all animals, go back another couple of hundred million years and you’ll find the ancestor of all Eukaryotes.
And it’s not very hard to prove. We don’t just share most of our genetic material with chimpanzees, if you zoom in, you can find within our second chromosome the remnant of the telomeres, the edges of our chromosomes. In our case two chromosomes fused, in the case of the chimp, these two chromosomes remained separate. You can also find the remnant of the centromere, required for cell division. Our genome does not look “designed” by any means.
And as time goes by, we merely find more evidence that points in this direction, of humans just not being that fundamentally different from the other animals. You could find Young Earth Creationists who insisted than Neanderthal man was just some regular guy who suffered a growth hormone disorder. But today we have sequenced genomes and we can find the traces in our own genome. About a quarter of all Neanderthal genes are preserved in present humans. Denisovan has left his legacy in Oceania and in sub-Saharan Africa, people have inherited a number of genes from yet another close relative to our species.
Today it’s easy to draw a strict line between human and non-human, a simple fact that many human ideologies and religions have happily made use of. But if you had been born earlier, it wouldn’t be so easy. There was an era once when Homo Sapiens was just a species of Homo among many. And had things gone a little differently, had our sister species survived on isolated islands, all our anthropocentric notions of “human rights” would have looked even more arbitrary than they look today.
The small human relatives of Flores in modern day Indonesia, who stood 110 centimeters tall are thought to have survived until at least 50,000 years ago. Then the humans showed up and seem to have rapidly exterminated them, as we did with so many other species. But imagine if they had survived, this species much smaller than us. Imagine we can’t communicate with them and can’t reproduce with them.
Do they have “human rights”?
Are they treated as wildlife? If they risk overpopulating the Flores wildlife reserve, do we sterilize them? Do we shoot them? Do we just allow them to overpopulate their niche and go extinct?
Do we intervene, when one of them kills another one, or tries to rape another one?
How do you treat an animal, that threads the line between human and animal?
We don’t really have an answer, we ended up with a system that happens to work by accident: It lucked out in the fact that it never had to deal with the reality of an organism that exists somewhere between the arbitrary boundaries of human and non-human.
And if you look around you, you’ll find that our whole society operates on the notion of this arbitrary boundary having some sort of validity.
Most of the world has made abortion illegal, because it “takes an innocent human life”. But what does that mean, an innocent human life? The emphasis is on the combination of innocence and humanity. To be innocent alone is not enough: We’ll shoot an innocent gorilla like Harembe, if we think the animal may pose a threat to a human life. To be human alone is not enough either. In war we will kill people on the “wrong” side.
No, you have to be both innocent and human. The innocent part is easy to understand. It’s the human part that’s arbitrary. If I were an animal, carrying an elephant or a gorilla fetus in my womb, nobody would lose sleep over an abortion. But a human being is special. This happens as soon as conception takes place. I’m allowed to let my sperm cells die, but once a sperm cell fertilizes an egg, we treat it as sacred.
Nature doesn’t treat the fertilized egg as sacred. Most of the fertilized eggs never make it to infancy. Current estimates are that 40-60% of fertilized eggs are spontaneously aborted at some point along the process to birth, for various reasons. If the fertilized egg has a chromosomal defect, it’s very likely to find itself spontaneously aborted. Any time you have unprotected sex, you yourself cause abortions to happen. As women enter their forties, the majority of their pregnancies end in abortions.
To back up this mentality of treating fertilized eggs as sacred, we came up with another concept: The idea that a soul enters the egg as soon as it is fertilized. This is of course also arbitrary. It means millions of souls around the world enter eggs every year, only to head back to heaven within a few days, once the fetus is spontaneously aborted. In fact, compared to the fetuses “murdered” by pregnant women, we would find vastly more fetuses who were murdered by God, burdened with the curse of inhabiting embryos with chromosomal abnormalities and other misery.
And most arbitrarily of course, is that fertilized human eggs sometimes turn into twins, triplets or even quadruplets. One has to wonder: Do these fertilized eggs harbor multiple souls? Or can a human soul split? If so, it means that humans can split human souls, as it’s relatively easy medical procedure to split a blastocyt and end up with identical twins.
As medical technology advances, the arbitrary line between human and non-human becomes blurred again. We don’t want to blur the line, because we don’t understand how our society should function once we blur the line, but we are so eager to extend our own lives, that we find ourselves forced to blur the line between human and non-human. Let me give you some examples, of how we find ourselves inevitably blurring the line again:
–Monkey embryos with pluripotent human stem cells.
–Mice with humanized genes that increase their intelligence.
–Pigs with ten gene changes, to make them more suitable for transplanting organs into humans.
In all these cases, we’re not blurring the line between human (has rights) and non-human (has no rights) because we want to. Rather, we’re blurring the line because it is an inevitable requirement to accomplish a secondary effect that benefits humans. If we want to save lives, we need donor organs. Donor organs can be most easily produced by using some sort of genetically modified animal.
The religious conservatives get very uneasy with this sort of stuff, it terrifies them. On the other hand, the scientists themselves try to follow all sorts of ethical protocols, to avoid running into the nightmare that frightens all the anthropocentric humans:
God forbid we make a human being suffer the sort of indignities and cruel suffering we impose upon animals!
Or even worse perhaps:
God forbid we end up with an animal that receives the sort of rights we only grant to human beings!
Imagine a human being has its organs harvested to keep another man alive! Imagine a human being is “euthanized” with carbon dioxide! Imagine a human being is injected with neurotoxins to simulate Alzheimer’s disease! Imagine a human being is forcibly sterilized or impregnated! The idea is an outrage to humans, so they make sure at all times that no matter what indignities the scientists impose on animals, nobody can ever plausibly argue that this animal is somewhat human.
All the science performed today, is performed while taking great care that the fine line between human and non-human, that came into existence once our ancestors exterminated our closest relatives, is preserved. We take every effort, to maintain our arbitrary separation from the other animals, that our ancestors themselves created through acts of genocide.
It fundamentally is not hard, to blur the line between human and non-human again. Humans and chimpanzees are more closely related than donkeys and horses, which can produce fertile offspring. A billionaire could produce a human-chimpanzee hybrid. The human-chimpanzee hybrid could then have offspring with a human being. How do you humans plan on treating someone who is 25% chimpanzee? How about someone who is 75% chimpanzee? Do you grant them voting rights? But people fundamentally don’t want to do it, they are happy to maintain their arbitrary line, their domination over the entire biosphere.
And the reason I’m asking, is because it’s already abundantly clear that intelligence or the capacity to suffer, just fundamentally doesn’t matter to you. Your domination, your privileges, are bestowed on you by virtue of being human. Just look at how you treat the other intelligent animals:
-You nearly drove the whales into extinction
-You shoot elephants for fun
-You use chimpanzees for medical experiments
-You rob orangutans of their home, to grow palm oil
It fundamentally does not matter that these are intelligent animals, the adults are more intelligent than your own newborn children. They have no rights. The punishment I would face for murdering your newborn child would greatly exceed the punishment I would face for murdering an elephant.
It doesn’t matter what they feel. It doesn’t matter what they think. What matters is that they’re not human.
And as long as your anthropocentric vision of the world continues, you build hell for yourself and all the animals you don’t consider deserving of rights:
-You continue to burden our planet with ever more humans. Women become pregnant and find themselves forced to bring more humans into this world, even though they don’t want to, simply because you pretend that an embryo without a brain should have rights, even though you grant no such rights to an elephant.
-You continue to force our closest relatives into extinction.
-You continue to cause massive suffering for the animals you eat.
Because fundamentally, you just refuse to consider the possibility that something non-human could experience feelings.
Of course you’re also good at training yourself to perceive the world in this way. As humans, we can train ourselves to grow our empathy or to shrink it. Historically, we dehumanized slaves and victims of genocide. Through dehumanization, we prohibit our empathic instincts from firing. Hunters do something similar. They have a whole dialect that serves to prohibit their empathic instinct from firing for the animals they shoot.
And fundamentally, this happens because you refuse to recognize the absurdity:
Here you see the brain of a dolphin. This is an animal that humans will happily kill. On the Faroe islands, people will readily kill numerous dolphins every year. Nobody interprets this as genocide. After all, it’s not our species.
On the other hand, humans consider it murder to remove a blastocyt from a human womb that doesn’t have a functional nervous system yet.
And of course, to a large degree this whole problem can just be attributed to most people not being very smart.
“Abortion is killing an unborn child” Is the kind of oneliner that easily gets dumb people on your side, because it sounds right. If you have to get into the complexities of why humans should have rights, what rights non-human animals should have, what a fetus can feel, whether fetuses are spontaneously aborted, most dumb people drop out.
To have legal abortion requires the kind of intelligent decision-making class that Western societies are rapidly losing. On the one hand there are the Democrats, who represent the interests of people who have to deal with the risk of becoming pregnant. On the other hand there are the Republicans, who represent the interests of people with a socially conservative worldview. At no point in the whole process, does anyone bother asking the question:
Why do we pretend that a human embryo is so special?
The anthropocentrism underneath the whole “debate” is taken for granted by everyone who participates in the madness.
Nobody bothers examining the absurdity and fundamental injustice inherent to the whole concept of “human rights”. It always turns into this absurd conflict between the “human rights” of the woman, versus the “human rights” of the embryo, as if the whole notion of “human rights” makes sense to begin with.
The whole notion of “human rights”, merely serves to emphasize that non-humans are not deserving of rights. Imagine if we had called the right to vote “man’s right”. It would be clear that we think of women as non-deserving of this right. And similarly, whenever we speak of a “human right”, we once again emphasize that non-humans are not entities with rights of their own. No, to us they are objects that exist for our benefits.
I would propose instead, that all rights should not be associated with your membership of some arbitrary biological barrier, but rather, should exist on a spectrum. The right to vote for example, should go associated with the ability to have an informed opinion on the subject that is to be voted upon and a personal stake in the issue. People who are about to die of old age should not have a say in climate policy, nor should people who don’t understand the fundamental basics of the subject matter.
Other rights, like the right not to be forcibly impregnated, should be extended to non-humans living in our society. Human beings will readily force farm animals and their own pets to have sexual intercourse, even though either animal may be fundamentally unwilling and actively resist. This should be illegal, as it violates a fundamental right of the animal in question.
And fertilized eggs, should have the same rights as unfertilized eggs, that is to say, none. We don’t hand out rights to totipotent stem cells that each have the individual capacity to grow into an adult human being. An organism that has never had a conscious thought or a feeling and never had the ability to express a desire, can not have its rights violated.
What about coma patients, what about dementia patients, what about people who are asleep? They should all be protected from violence, based on the desires they harbored before they entered their unconscious state.
Similarly, we have no right to mutilate an embryo or a newborn infant, because we can expect that it would eventually violate the interests of the adult conscious human being it turns into. This does not apply in the case of abortion, because in the case of abortion, no such conscious adult human being will come into existence.
We can’t return to the bioethics of anthropocentric Abrahamic religions, because those ethical systems were a product of knowledge acquired before we discovered the arbitrary nature of the distinction between human and non-human organisms.
In addition, the natalist nature of these worldviews only made sense in a context of competing groups of people whose population density was fundamentally limited by the agricultural practices of their era. To continue bringing ever more people into this world, because we inherited a natalist worldview that came into existence in an entirely different context, is a grave mistake that will lead to widespread global suffering.
You and Hitler share the same worldview.
Interesting. Please tell me more about this Hitler man.
Wow, this site is literally written by the Reptillians who brought us covid and the great reset, who are invading from planet Pieceofshit.
Chimpanzees and all monkeys should be wiped out because they were created by Satan to mock God’s greatest creation in the physical world, i.e. Man.
April: Covid lockdowns are DANGEROUS to our DEMOCRACY!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭
May: we need to kill babies because monkeys exist lol
If you’re running a campaign to filter out the antivax boomers your blog acquired this summer, excellent work.
I do try to scare away normies yes.
hahaha ‘…bc monkeys exist’. classic!
This song has been on my mind lately: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dLPsw3i_P8 (Moondog – Enough About Human Rights).
i was under the impression that most westerners were pro abortion and anti dolphin killing.
>And most arbitrarily of course, is that fertilized human eggs sometimes turn into twins, triplets or even quadruplets. One has to wonder: Do these fertilized eggs harbor multiple souls? Or can a human soul split? If so, it means that humans can split human souls, as it’s relatively easy medical procedure to split a blastocyt and end up with identical twins.
Ka-ching! You get maximum reddit karma.
>i was under the impression that most westerners were pro abortion and anti dolphin killing.
The smart ones generally are yes.
Its like you dont have takes as much as just being belgian or whatever.
I remember reading about that tiny Indonesian humanoid in the newspaper probably in the late nineties, before I got on the internet. I remember reading how it was probably deliberately exterminated by homo sapiens and remember thinking “that’s just typical”. It would have been fascinating to have let it survive.
Gawd knows, they might have had a totally different mindset to us, super hearing or vision or a weird way of communicating but now we can’t know.
Also I like Jean Auel’s book Clan of the Cave Bear about a little homo sapiens girl who ends up getting raised by Neanderthals. I like how she deals with being bullied and ostracized, and puts in hours and hours of practise at stuff to get to the next level in life. She thinks “fuck, this is a nightmare” but she doesn’t give up.
When she is done growing up she is a tall blonde like Sharapova but she remains ugly and freaky in the eyes of the Neanderthals.
This is why I am not worried about food shortages, I simply plan to resort to cannibalism.
Groucho and Zeppo shared the exact same ancestry, but no one in their right mind would consider them of equal value.
The true sickness with mankind is that they have forgotten how to live without rules. Really, the only thing that’s needed is to love God, love others, and love yourself. But I’m no Abrahamist either, in my mind Yahweh is a monster and the embodiment of the tendencies of the Demiurge. All of the rules society tries to enforce on the world really just serve to remove us from our true nature. The collective effort to reshape the world in mankind’s image and to control everything and make it optimal and efficient is precisely what takes the magic out of the world. Can we simply admit that there are always cases that will fall outside of the established rules, and simply strive to do what is loving in each case? Even if others dont follow suit, you don’t really need them to once you let go of the idea that the world needs to be exactly the way you would want it to be and become willing to personally fight for what you truly believe in in a way that matters. Some good examples that come to mind is the issue of euthanasia for willing participants versus the taboo on death, or the issue of killing to defend the innocent in a life-or-death situation. Instead of inventing ever finer and more complicated rules and delineations to come up with some imagined perfect way to behave, i think it’s better to let go of control and search within yourself for everything you need. We are not meant to be puppets of a system. Then again, I’m also of the opinion that domestication is evil and that civilization as we know it was a mistake from the very start.
Passing on a message from mother Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsNiSrWjt50
I just realized your problem – you’re Jewish. If not by matriliny, then in spirit. Read Otto Weininger and begin repenting. The fat Wiccan witches can never save your soul. God have mercy.
Ah the “You’re Jewish” card. I get this one when people don’t like my ideas but either can’t refute them or don’t feel like bothering.
>The fat Wiccan witches can never save your soul.
I’m not expecting them to save my soul, I expect them to sit on my face.
I also recommend the 1981 movie Caveman, starting Ringo Starr.
No. You get the “you’re Jewish” accusations because many of your positions are suspiciously similar to those common among Jews:
— pro AGW with the implication of coordinated global governance.
— pro abortion
— misanthropy towards the cattle/goyim
“Ah the “You’re Jewish” card. I get this one when people don’t like my ideas but either can’t refute them or don’t feel like bothering.”
Even if that were the case, you didn’t exactly deny the charge, did you?
YOU! Are part of the human species!
All that you are projecting is what you are also……
So, you can take yourself out of the human population and call it a small win for humanity!
Basically a collection of rather moot points.
Small human-like creatures and our treatment of them are unnecessary as a thought-experiment, as we have virtually the same case with native people of various nations. They are certainly humans, and able to communicate, but weren’t treated as humans for much of our past history. The “outgroup” can be de-humanized in various ways, as also happens regularly in wars. It has very little to do with the ability to communicate.
Animals suffer because of us, but they also suffer without us. Any animal or human ever born will suffer. The fact that we breed animals also makes them alive, so by definition it makes them suffer. It’s not a perfect existence, but where do you draw the line? If you keep a dog, you feed it and care for it, but also restrict its freedom. So is keeping a dog OK or not? Should we slaughter all animals on the planet to prevent their eventual suffering, and that of the coming generations? It may sound like whataboutism, but really the statement that “animals suffer for us” is so unspecific and ultimately meaningless that one can’t really argue with it on any logical basis. “Leave nature as it is” is a non-argument, because nature never stays as it is, and we are part of nature anyway. Ours is not the first “great extinction” if you look at the history of the world – and even after we’re gone, it won’t be the last. Man-made morals don’t change history or the facts, and the fact is that we are but a sneeze in the history of the earth.
Also the question why an unborn child is holy to us and why we kill dolphins is relatively easy to answer. The unborn child could be us, or it could be related to us, or it could contribute to our society by being alive. We partly identify with it and want it to live under any circumstances. According to our selfish genes, that’s simply more useful for us. Whereas the dolphin looks cute when alive, but is more useful for us dead. That’s it. There’s nothing more to explore here. Why do you think genocides are conducted? The answer is: because somebody is trying to make the world a better place. And I’m not even kidding. If you see a certain type of people as a “disease”, then genocide almost seems better than the alternative, no? Of course I’m talking in extremes here, but it should be clear to everyone that morals are, before everything else, very relative and subjective.
Who is even pro human rights anyway?