TL;DR: The grid would crash.
About 20% of Europeans have air conditioning, the other 80% don’t. If during the heatwave a few days ago, 100% of Europeans had air conditioning, electricity demand would have increased by about 45–55% over the heat-elevated peak that actually occurred. Solar panels can’t solve this for you, because the demand for electricity peaks late in the evening, around sunset. Wind turbines can’t solve it either, because the whole reason we had this heatwave in the first place is because there was no wind to blow the heat away for us.
The problem is slightly worse than naive calculations would suggest, because during a heatwave of a few days the air conditioning systems will keep dumping heat from people’s houses into the city, thus forcing other people’s air conditioning systems to keep working more aggressively to keep out the heat. In European cities, which are relatively densely populated compared to the more stretched out American cities, this is a much bigger problem. You would need about ~225–240 GW of additional electric supply than we actually have.
Part of the problem is that during a heatwave, you actually lose your capacity to generate electricity. Nuclear power plants near rivers have to shut down because the river water gets too hot, the coastal ones may be affected by jellyfish blooms. Hydroelectric dams stop working because the water table drops. Wind in particular drops most, by about 70%, because it’s the lack of wind that allows the heat to locally build up in a particular area in the first place.
So, we just don’t have the electricity that we would need to all have our air conditioning running during a heatwave. So, why do us inferior Europoors have this problem, whereas the glorious Americans don’t have it? Well, that’s an easy one. In the United States, 60% of electricity is generated by using fossil fuels. In Europe, we generate 29% of our electricity using fossil fuels.
In Europe our situation is more difficult, because we’re playing a more difficult game than the Americans are: Unlike Americans, who chose to elect a billionaire pedophile as president who withdrew from the Paris climate agreement, we want to have electricity without making the Earth uninhabitable for future generations. That’s possible, but it’s not easy.
So, can we Europoors just increase our electricity generation during these summer evening heatwave peaks during which we will all want to use our air conditioning? Well, that’s not easy. There’s a reason our electricity supply in Europe still tends to be ~52% fossil fueled during summer evenings. Solar is not available during these evening peaks. Wind is not available during these evening peaks either. Nuclear could in theory be available, as it is baseload capacity, but it’s of course not economically viable to build reactors just to have low-carbon electricity during a few evenings in summer every year.
If you want to boost electricity production during summer heatwave evenings, you need something you can turn on at will. In practice that means we would just find ourselves burning more fossil fuels and/or biomass. We want to move away from fossil fuels and biomass usage for electricity is inevitably going to have to be limited if we don’t want to compete with other uses for biomass.
I don’t think we’re going to stop the widespread use of air conditioning in Europe anymore at this point. In 2023, 13% of Germans owned air conditioning, in 2024 it was already 19%. We’re going to end up like the Americans, with a population that uses air conditioning at a large scale. The effect that has, is that we’re going to recarbonize the electricity grid. We’ll find ourselves simply needing to start using more fossil fuels again, to deliver sufficient electricity during the summer evening and nights, as the normies have their air conditioning on.
The green transition always was going to have to involve moving electricity demand to periods when we are actually able to generate renewable electricity. If we decide to all buy air conditioning, what we’re effectively choosing is to do the exact opposite: We’re choosing to increase our electricity consumption during the exact period when we can’t generate sufficient renewable electricity.
I know what my family chose. We don’t want to become like Americans, which is a fate worse than death, as it means losing your dignity as a human being. We want to stay Europeans. We would unironically rather die in one of the heatwaves with our dignity intact than buy air conditioning. I’m a flawed and ungrateful man, but I do try to be grateful towards God, for sparing me from the indignity of having to be an American.
Just run the AC from solar. This is what I do (primarily because on the island there is only diesel gen-set power which costs a fortune and is only really used for street lighting and public facilities). Everybody has Chinese solar and battery systems and Chinese AC to match. My Chinese solar, battery and AC supply and installation was 45k USD. A bargain for 27 kW of solar generation, 65kWh of battery storage, 14kW of AC capacity and 18kW of on-demand AC power delivery.
Glory to the CCP and **** Donald Trump.
Oh, and P.S. – my system uses a ground loop for cooling the condenser circuit. I only heat up the groundwater table. Gas-to-air transfer is too energy inefficient. Gas to a water cooling loop is much better.
You can’t be serious that anyone would choose to commit suicide rather than becoming an American. There are far worst places in the world, and I don’t see anyone living in those places, including the USA, killing themselves.
How does “dignity” come into play here? Are you going to avoid flying because of “climate change”? What about using AI which consumes huge amount of energy? Would you rather forego AI because of your “belief”?
I apologize for being so critical here…
>How does “dignity” come into play here? Are you going to avoid flying because of “climate change”?
I stopped flying altogether once I figured this stuff out about ten years ago. I had to take one single retour flight over the past ten years for work, but other than that, I simply never use airplanes.
Just fly private like I do.
I don’t agree with using “dignity” as an argument. Otherwise, what’s stopping anyone from using “dignity” to shame people on behaviors/views that they disagree with? It is not productive at all.
What is wrong with using shame as a form of social control? If it keeps a person from doing something terrible, and the other options are more coercive. You are taking as given that the actions are tolerable.
Shame has been weaponized. I don’t shame you if you eat beef because of ‘climate change’. Shaming people on use of air conditioning is unreasonable.
Raising cattle regeneratively can sequester much carbon in soils, but it is less ‘intensive’ than feed-lots, so beef will be more expensive. Swings and roundabouts on the Highway to Hell.
Why not do both? Become an American and commit sewerside?
>the only rational pursuit is the pursuit of pleasure over pain
The more aggressively you pursue pleasure, the faster it runs away from you.
What is your take on the notion that everyone is put on Earth with a specific mission? Not always a glamourous mission, but a mission either way, and the point still being that the pursuit of duty is as natural to us as the pursuit of pleasure.
Hopefully Rintrah won’t be killed in tonight’s riots that will be taking place in large Dutch cities. Netherlands vs. Morocco kick off 3 A.M. (local time). Whether they win or lose the Moroccans are always guaranteed to cause absolute mayhem. Almost half a million of them live in the Netherlands.
The Moroccans will rule their country and breed with all their woman.
Africans are not useless.
But they should not be prioritized over and above Huwhites
https://youtu.be/hbe3CQamF8k
https://youtu.be/u7K72X4eo_s
https://youtu.be/cJLq_K45Ro8?si=UWQ-5n-8itpCruvV
All flowers in time bend towards the sun
Then fall to Earth and rot.
Mehen, let me give you a tip.
It doesn’t make you sound clever to say “Huwhites.” It’s a Jared Taylor inside joke that is retarded and anybody who says that is stupid in my opinion.
We got to protect muh Huwhite race Grandpa.
Racists don’t go to heaven btw.
We don’t typically need air conditioning where I live but we do sometimes have serious heat waves, and I have to keep my father in law cool since he is 101. We have a stand alone cube freezer. During the summer I keep it half full of gallon plastic milk jugs that are full of frozen water (the rest of the space is full of food). I think the freezer is 3.5 cubic feet, and so it could hold 12-15 square gallon containers if it were dedicated to freezing water. When it gets to be very hot (on occasion 102 degrees), along with putting reflective material on the outside of the windows, I set out a frozen gallon next to my father in law with a fan blowing on it and then on him. It is very cooling. Stand alone cube freezers use very little electricity. There are a zillion keep cool gadgets and there could be even more created that don’t involve buying and running an air conditioner. There is, for instance: “The Reon Pocket Pro Plus applies the Peltier effect, in which cooling caused by an electric current flowing across the junction of two different conductors can cause… Read more »
Yeah, I feel kind of dumb that I never did this. The thing is is that in order for it to work you have actually have the ability to make ice. Which could be a significant limitation for some people. Anyway, it must be making the rounds, this insight of yours, because I lurk on Facebook and some of my old classmates, one if them who is a psychic medium, posted some meme about how back in the 70s air conditioning was like a fan on the floor with a bowl of ice cubes behind it. It makes sense, but never did that. Of course where I”m from originally a heatwave would be like 90 degrees F, and most summers were low 70s to mid 80s for a high, and the rare heat wave that actually got above 100 degrees, only lasted a few days. I’ll have to try that ice cube hack, because I live in an apartment, and even though I have AC, it’s kind on the brink and is not working that well lately.
Yes, you have to have electricity. Rintrah had said fans were okay, so I was assuming ice was an option. His big constraint is not having electricity at a particular time of day, and my system solves that. There is such a thing as a swamp cooler; we have tried that. It is suited to dry climates. It is very cheap and it is basically a fan blowing over an internal basin of water; that cools the air it flows over. It is safer than a regular fan blowing over bowl of water since you won’t by accident have a fan falling into water (using frozen jugs also prevents that risk). The problem with a breeze over water is that it humidifies the air. We tried that when we had an elderly dog and it turns out that really humid air can caused our other dog to have ear yeast infections, so we had to get an air conditioner for a period of time. What I do with my father in law is use jugs of frozen water that have closed lids. That way the air does not get extra moist. That way I don’t have to find out if… Read more »
By the way the Sharper image Breeze Blast Ultra Personal Air Cooler is not the greatest; the best thing about it is the excuse to watch the dorky YouTube reviews of it. The wearable neck coolers are a better bet; they have been around for decades.
Yeah, I know about the swamp coolers, I’m in the desert Southwest, but the thing is they don’t really work well in the summer, because that’s when we have the monsoon season, and so the humidity is higher and they don’t work well in those conditions. Also, I can have my AC replaced, but my lease is up for renewal soon, and I don’t want to give them a justification for raising the rent higher than they would otherwise, so I’m holding off. But I really don’t like air conditioned air, and I can’t even have it on when I’m sleeping because I wake up with sinus problems from it, so I’m definitely interested in exploring alternative methods of cooling the air.
It costs more energy wise to keep around ice jugs for that few days than simply turn on the air conditioner as needed. This is physics.
I don’t think that can be right because a cube freezer only costs about ten bucks a month to run where I live and we have astoundingly high (for the U.S.) electricity rates. The freezer is insulated (obviously), and once the ice is ice, it doesn’t take a lot of power to keep it as ice. At one point year ago we had an elderly dog who required air conditioning and we got a window unit and our electric bill tripled for modest use; the freezer has no real impact on our bill.
Fine. But it’s not an apple-to-apple comparison. Your ice jugs provide very localized ‘cooling’ and not for cooling the room.
Yes, that is totally right. I was talking about getting by during heat waves; not replicating the effect of an air conditioner.
Orca, what??
Of course ice jugs in conjunction with a motorized electrically powered fan will COOL a room, just as a woodburning fireplace will HEAT the room, as opposed to just a loud and annoying fan alone, which only moves air around.
Do you live on planet Earth??
I think the issue isn’t about whether it actually COOLS, but is more so about how efficient it is versus regular AC.
You have to have the ability to make ice. If it’s 110 degrees outside, and 90 degrees indoors, how fast does that ice melt? And even with the cooling effect, maybe it would lower the temp to 80 degrees indoors, I wonder how long would you be able to keep up with demand? And you would have to look at the energy used in making ice and powering the fan, vs. an actual air conditioner, which maybe wouldn’t be very significant if it was only temporary over a few days, but if it went on for months it could be another story. And would you be able to do so during a power outage, or completely off grid? I’m not qualified to answer those questions, but it’s something to consider.
Bird, the freezer is running regardless, right?
The freezer won’t consume more energy if you stick a bottle of water into it. It doesn’t care.
And of course AC consumes far more energy than a mere fan. That’s why a mini DIY swamp cooler is more environmentally friendly.
I was just trying to be helpful.
Am i missing something?
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EDIT
AI says it’s like this:
“One-Time Cooling Cost:
The energy spike is temporary. Once the item is fully frozen, the energy consumption returns to its normal baseline.
Thermal Mass:
After items are frozen, they act like a cooling block. Because ice holds temperature longer than air, a well-stocked freezer is actually MORE energy-efficient.
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So yes, freezing bottles or jugs of water consumes more energy.
But I don’t think it compares to the AC hog in your window.
And your freezer should ideally be full.
Yeah, you’re definitely missing something. I wasn’t bashing you, not looking for a fight, perhaps I was poking holes in your argument, but it wasn’t out of personal animosity, it was a sincere spirit of seeking the truth. Yes, ice is great. Perhaps some day I will live in Iceland. Unfortunately your response is lazy and didn’t address any of my questions.
P.S. Fuck AI. AI is for morons who use it to appear smarter than they actually are. Smart people who use AI, use it to automate the boring stuff, not to discern truth from falsehood.
Really?
I love how Google has incorporated AI.
It cleared it up nicely for me in this case.
I knew a well stocked freezer was more efficient but I didn’t get it that putting things in drew more power.
The things you learn…
Are you retarded? Perhaps you’ve been drinking tonight. A well stocked freezer may be more efficient in cooling the contents of the freezer, but can you keep it restocked long enough to keep up with demand? You’re going to keep adding new bottles of water everyday, which you are removing to cool your fan, indefinitely? Who has time for that? But of course if you’re retired, you must have all the time in the world. And if that’s the case, keep on going, you’re doing well.
I am posting under the influence of whiskey again, yes.
“Can you keep it restocked long enough to keep up with demand?”
Who cares? That’s not the question.
It’s much less energy than a standard AC unit would draw.
Do I need to ask AI about that also?
And it only takes 2 minutes to exchange bottles of tap water in the freezer so I don’t know why you’re whining about that. You could take 2 minutes less in the shower or fixing breakfast.
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I just checked with AI and it told me that it takes approximately 250 times more wattage to run AC for an hour than to freeze a 16oz bottle of water.
Charlie, the only way to test your hypothesis is to test it during a heat wave, where the temps exceed 100 degrees F for a prolonged period of time, If you are not in those conditions your theory doesn’t carry much weight.
P.S. I think it may be past your bedtime. Make sure you drink plenty of water before you go to sleep, it will help restore your vitality from any toxic substances you may have consumed beforehand.
Bird, there is no theorizing, it’s just facts and physics. Of course an icy DIY air conditioner will help cool your room.
A fan alone will not!
A fan alone contributes more heat to the room through the motor and only moves air.
You don’t think very clearly, do you?
Look, I have actually done this thing. We have heat waves here; it gets up to 102 a few times during the summer. For a period of time years ago I had an A/C and using it tripled our electric bill. Presently I use frozen water jugs; doing so does not noticeably affect our electric bill. It takes about three jugs a day to make a difference (window coverings are also crucial). These heat waves last 3-5 days. And it cools down at night. If the heat waves lasted longer I would get an A/C for the old person (it wouldn’t be easy due to our window design). It just depends on your situation. If you live in a desert and it is continuously hot, of course you wouldn’t want to be swapping out ice water jugs constantly. If you are just trying to get by until your lease is up and don’t want an A/C to mess up your rent, then presumably it is worth trying. If you live in Europe, and you refuse to get an A/C due to principle, or your building won’t allow it (my condo complex used to forbid A/Cs), or you can’t afford the… Read more »
I’m not saying it doesn’t work.
I’m not saying it’s a bad idea.
I think it’s a great idea.
But where I live currently I don’t think it’s going to work.
But maybe it will.
Having a standalone freezer, probably is a significant factor in getting positive results.
But if you don’t have that, and your refrigerator/freezer that you do have isn’t working that well, and you don’t have hardly any space to store ice, could be a limiting factor. That’s all I’m saying.
I’m going to test it though, and I’ll post the results even if no one else cares.
He is not retarded.
I am retarded.
yeah, but your retardation is intentionally ironic, his is unintentional. Though truthfully I don’t think he’s a retard, and don’t think he’s a moron either, but he’s probably a boomer.
Ice jugs need to be cooled constantly to maintain the frozen state. Pull the plug and see how fast they melt away. Furthermore, operating a freezer increases the room temperature.
Orca,
“Operating a freezer increases the room temperature.”
What are you even saying?
We shouldn’t have freezers because GLOOOBAL WARMING?
Obviously, the ice is going to melt over a period of hours while it’s cooling your apartment.
So what?
Yes, this is all crazy. I come up with a method that I actually use that fits Rintrah’s personal ethical constraints and that is cheap, and the fact that it uses any electricity at all makes it untenable???? It is like Rintrah saying one should be vegan and then Orca saying that but wait you are still eating.
But that’s not true. It does use electricity, because it is dependent on your ability to make ice in your freezer, which does require electricity. And if you already have a refrigerator with a built in freezer, a standalone freezer is sort of a luxury.
I’d like to see how this method would work out in Saudi Arabia, with temps reaching 120 degrees F, and everyone ditched their AC, and got an extra freezer instead for making ice to cool their fans. Would it be more efficient than AC?
Of course, this could be a great idea for cooler climates experiencing a temporary heatwave. My reasoning is coming from the point of view of solving long-term problems not problems that only last a few days.
“and the fact that it uses any electricity at all makes it untenable????”
No, it’s tenable, but it only works in places that were already cold over a long period of time, having an established baseline of coolness, which is like a battery of cold storage, as opposed to heat.
It’s a temporary solution to a temporary problem.
If Europe suddenly experienced the climate of Saudi Arabia it probably wouldn’t work.
Do Europeans commonly own standalone freezers?
My guess is no, but I could be wrong.
If they are big meat eaters, maybe, but vegans probably not.
Of course ice needs to be kept cooled to be kept frozen; that is why it is in a freezer. However, the insulation of the freezer is very effective. A full freezer will keep ice frozen for 48 hours if unplugged, if not opened. If opened it is more like 24 hours.
I have a Bluetti power cube (which has solar panels, which I haven’t used). If the power went out I could run the freezer using that. I couldn’t run my refrigerator with it, because a fridge uses a lot more electricity, but I could run the freezer with it.
We keep the cube freezer in the kitchen, not the bedroom (which is the room that needs to be kept cool).
Also, you’re in San Francisco, not really a hot place, and I know you do sometimes get heatwaves, but your climate is like the UK, so, this is an important point about the freezer method of using ice and fans, it may only be useful for a limited range of climatic conditions, and won’t work everywhere. But let me tell you Karen. I’m going to test this, and I will post the results here, even if no one else cares about it but myself. I currently have a few single use plastic bottles of water in the freezer, and they’ve been in there for about 12 hours now and they have not frozen yet, so we’ll see what happens tomorrow.
I am not in San Francisco; good grief. San Francisco does not get serious heat waves.
I totally agree that this is a fix for some situations and not others, but it does match Rintrah’s situation fairly well (given his refusal to use an AC).
Also, even if you are right, Rintrah’s major problem was the timing of electricity use. This way you can make the ice when electricity is available and store it for when it is not.
Las Vegas does not shut down when temperatures hit triple digits. The ‘timing’ issue is a result of political decisions, not an engineering one.
Yes, I was going with Rintrah’s constraints.
Orca, do you have a freezer running?
Of course you do.
So where is the extra expenditure of energy by utilizing it putting bottles of water in your freezer?
If you have a standalone freezer, different story, but if your freezer is inside your refrigerator, and it’s used for storing frozen food, there is limited space.
Yes, I was describing a set up that a family or individual in Europe could use for intermittent heat waves. It is true that standalone cube freezers are very cheap (a 3.5 cubic foot one is $150 at Best Buy), but if a person is a renter in the U.S. it would be a pain to haul one around. You would need to see it as something that you would give away or try to sell when you move.
I think that the power saving (plus the ability to save money on food due to the extra storage) could be worth it even for a U.S. renter, but a person would have to check his own situation.
You could be right. Maybe I need to buy a fucking standalone freezer. I’ve already been toying around with the idea of buying a small dorm room fridge for my room, aka work from office.
aka work from home office.
If you are in a desert climate with ongoing high heat I don’t think it is the system for you. You would need to use it too much of the time; it would be a big pain and you would need to freeze a lot of jugs. Humans aren’t really meant to live in desert climates; they are hazardous; I think AC is the answer there.
However, I would be curious to know your opinion of how well the jugs work as a stop gap. It is a very nice cool breeze.
One consideration is that it could be a backup for cooling if you have a power outage. So you could have it in addition to an AC. You can run the freezer plus a fan via a power cube that is charged during the day via solar panels (so far I have only used our Bluetti power cube to run my father in law’s lift chair and hospital bed during outages, but it could run the cube freezer). However you are a healthy adult and don’t have dependents so you don’t need as much back up as I do.
> If you are in a desert climate with ongoing high heat I don’t think it is the system for you.
I disagree.
The frozen water bottle system is basically a mini swamp cooler that works much better in dry desert environments than places with high humidity, such as Alabama.
But it doesn’t work like a swamp cooler. A swamp cooler is an evaporative cooler. It works by using a breeze to make water evaporate; the water absorbs heat from the air and a cool breeze is created.
A swamp cooler makes the air humid. That is why I can’t use one; I can’t have humid air (due to dogs).
My system does not make the air humid, since the water bottle is sealed.
I would have thought a regular swamp cooler would be fine for Big Bird since she is in a desert but she has tried them and doesn’t like them.
Being in a desert means months on end of heat, and that would be just too much ice bottle swapping; it would only be a reasonable option if one couldn’t have an AC.
Okay, sorry to bore you all, but just wanted to report that I was able to test out the frozen water bottles with the fan hack, and can report that it didn’t work. It took almost 24 hours to freeze the bottles, and I placed three frozen water bottles in front of a medium sized fan on top of a table about a four feet away from me. Within the first 5 minutes the ambient room temperature cooled from 86.7 F to 86.5, and within 30 minutes it dropped about 1/2 a degree, and then it went back up again, and the water bottles were completely melted within an hour. The air blowing over the bottles was slightly cooler, but wasn’t significant enough to justify going through the trouble, and I actually found misting myself with cool water while sitting in front of the fan offered significantly more relief. Of course there are many factors involved which could influence the performance of the ice and fan method. Perhaps I didn’t use large enough bottles, or didn’t use enough of them, or perhaps the type of plastic makes a difference. Also, things like the energy efficiency of the building, the windows,… Read more »
Also, I wouldn’t buy a standalone freezer just to be able to generate more ice to cool my home. When I use air conditioning I’m conservative with it and have it set higher than other people might find comfortable, but it only raises my bill a maximum of $20 more per month, and only use it between May and September, where it is consistently above 100 degrees F everyday, so that’s like a $100 a year for air conditioning. I know people living in tiny apartments in my area who are paying $300 dollar electric bills, but they have it running 24 hours a day and have it set for 70 degrees, while I only run it for a maximum of 8 hours at 82, and my bill rarely exceeds $100 a month. I don’t really like air conditioning though so am trying to use it less.
I realize that your advice was intended for Rintrah, who has very different circumstances, but other people reading it may apply it to their lives, and I was hoping it would work for me as well, but unfortunately it doesn’t.
First of all, what size were the bottles? I use a gallon. Second of all, the test is not whether it cools the room. In fact, the whole point is that you aren’t trying to do that; that would require an air conditioner (and would cause Orca’s objections about physics to be relevant). The question is whether it cools the person. I think that the idea of “cooling the person, not the room” is so alien to Americans that I should have been explicit. A better test would be whether a frozen gallon cools you personally. Also, another factor is that you are expecting something genuinely good. I am not describing something that is like air conditioning. I am describing something to get by during a heat wave. “Getting by” is also alien to Americans. Anyway, it doesn’t suit your circumstance since you live in a place that is hot ongoing and also you must have lower rates than I do (mine are 52 cents per kwh on the margin and I am in the highest tier almost instantly every month). And, you are in a hotter room; when it is 101 outside it is in the low 80s in… Read more »
They were small 16 oz bottles. I chill all my drinks in the freezer, and there is no room for an extra gallon to test out for this experiment. I know it’s not supposed to cool the room, but I thought I might as well test the room temp because I have a digital thermometer in my room anyway. I also mentioned that I didn’t feel any relief, meaning it didn’t cool the person, and probably it’s because the bottles were too small, but I found instructions online that mentioned that using small water bottles would be sufficient, but I also found that misting myself with cool water was more effective. My window faces the north, so it doesn’t get Southern exposure, and where I live it’s a lease violation to put reflective coverings over the window that would be visible outside, even though that’s insane, they also like to over-trim the trees so we don’t have any shade, which seems to be standard operating procedure in the entire city, it’s to cut down on landscaping expenses and not getting sued from fallen tree branches damaging people’s cars. Fortunately we still have trees, because several apartment complexes chopped down all… Read more »
That window covering rule is horrible. Yes, you need to move out of there.
They cut down trees to protect cars!!!??They DESERVE what they will get!
Okay, now I am seeing that they are claiming that the highest rate is 44 cents. But I don’t believe it, because they said 52 cents in the past and my bill has not gone down.
We are all paying for the data centers energy expenses, they secretly bundle it in all of our electric bills under Other charges. Data centers generate a huge amount of heat, they will blame it on global warming, but the heatwaves will keep getting worse and worse because they’re planning on building thousands of more data centers. The biggest data center in the world is being built in the state of Utah, it will be twice the size of Manhattan, and consume more energy than the entire state.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/13/utah-approves-datacenter-backlash
They are surveillance centres for the Zionazi panopticon that Larry Ellison said that obedient goyim had no reason to fear.
Mumblebrain, we also have surveillance systems to keep an eye on you muzz cultists issuing fatwas and committing jihad all over the world.
Civilised people living in desert and high summer heat regions have long used ‘passive’ methods to stay cool. For example, siestas in the heat of the day, buildings painted white to reflect heat, buildings designed to circulate cooler air in and hot air out, verandahs, wide eaves, lots of trees for shade, particularly on western sides, water gardens for cooling etc. But those are civilised people, NOT Yanks.
Yeah to give some credit to the Tusken Raiders, you gotta be a half decent engineer to survive in the desert when you’re not able to rely on the power grid.
Still, we can see with desert tribal organizations like the Taliban and Fundamentalist Mormon communes that small scale desert living tends to result in inbreeding and sexual slavery of women.
The extra expenditure is to maintain the cooling state constantly. Your freezer needs ‘help’ to stay frozen. The more items in the freezer the more energy it consumes to maintain the temperature.
Orca
“The more items in the freezer the more energy it consumes to maintain the temperature.”
WRONG
That might seem like common sense, but i think you missed this:
>> Thermal Mass:
After items are frozen, they act like a cooling block. Because ice holds temperature longer than air, a well-stocked freezer is actually MORE energy-efficient.
No, having your freezer full is more efficient than having it partially empty. Also the freezer has excellent insulation; it’s not just a metal box. That is why cube freezers cost hardly anything to run (per google AI, just $20-$40 per year, but that is a garbage answer for areas like mine where the electric rates are astronomical; it is more like $10 per month for me on the margin since we have tiered rates).
Is your Mom hot?
In the UK, it is illegal to install external blinds or awnings which would stop the sun getting into the house and thereby reduce the need for AC