Sorry, just checking whether we have any morons left.
At 10.9 °Celsius (°C), the average temperature in 2024 was 2.7 degrees higher than the figure
for the international reference period 1961–1990 (8.2 °C). Compared to the average for the
current, warmer 1991–2020 period (9.3 °C), the deviation was 1.6 degrees. This shows the
continuation of the accelerated warming trend, which already led to record-breaking values in
2023 (10.6 °C) and 2022 (10.5 °C, the same value as in 2018). 2024 also saw a rise in the
linear temperature trend by 1.9 degrees since the beginning of measurements (1881–2024). In
2023, it was still at 1.8 degrees.
You all realize how insane this is, right? From 1975 to 2024 you’re looking at a 2.7 degree Celsius rise. So 2.7 degree in half a century. So 5.4 degree Celsius per century in Germany right now is what we’re getting.
If you’re putting children into the world, you realize this is some enormous misery you’re signing them up for, right? And yet people are still bringing children into the world.
“Hey maybe we can upload their minds to the computer” -Ugly bald men with glasses.
First of all, that’s fucking cringe. I would not consent to having my brain, personality and/or body simulated in some computer simulation, whether it’s a quantum computer or some other variety. Not under capitalism, not under communism, not under anarchism, not under fascism, not under some pseudo-green ideology either. I don’t want any of these fake undignified solutions to humanity’s failure to co-exist with non-human organisms and ecosystems.
I want to live and die on a breathing organic world, in a healthy normal functional masculine body, not as some sort of synthetic or altered freak, an ultimate slave of machinery without true freedom and thus without true dignity. If they ever tried to simulate me in a computer, I would hope people would throw a bunch of nukes at it. I do not consent to such a thing and see no reason to expect I would ever consent to such a thing in the future. Just putting it out there.
I want people to be free, I don’t want people to have to justify their existence based on some particular job they do. That is what all the 20th century totalitarian systems did. The Soviet Union’s symbols were the hammer and sickle. The Germany Nazi party was the National Socialist German LABORER’s party. The concentration camps had “work makes free” as their slogan. You don’t have to justify your existence on the basis of doing some job that you don’t enjoy. The animals enjoy doing what they do, I want myself and other humans to live out their lives doing things they genuinely enjoy doing too.
If you kill the birds, if you kill the forests, if you’re killing off the world’s surviving hunter-gatherer tribes, if you’re destroying the ability of my people’s children to grow up in healthy functional bodies and raise children of their own, then as far as I am concerned, I swear I hope whatever you’re doing kills me too and I get to reincarnate as a baby in Europe in the 1980’s again or something similar. Please don’t try bailing me out with some computer simulation like a cyborg zombie. Don’t sign me up for some kind of Neuralink half-cyborg hybrid bullshit either. I don’t consent to any of this sort of bullshit.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think any of this bullshit is even going to work. The Neuralink bullshit is just broken down by the brain’s immune system as far as I know, the brain doesn’t like having these tiny thin wires stuck into it. Musk did not invent this bullshit, they tried it before there was an Elon Musk.
Second, the whole mind-uploading bullshit doesn’t seem to work either, our neurons are just too complex to easily simulate on a computer. But most importantly, you people need to realize that when you destroy the environment, you destroy your ability to sustain the electricity grid. If you have four degree of global warming, you have category six hurricanes everywhere, something that does not exist yet, massive hurricanes that just cross through continents destroying the electricity grid.
You will also have massive flooding of your cities like in Spain recently, you will have sea level rise swallowing your coastal cities, you will have submarine landslides from the decomposing methane clathrates, those submarine landslides will then trigger megatsunamis which hit a bunch of your cities and your nuclear power plants simultaneously. Your nuclear power plants will also be hit by sudden massive droughts, the rivers already tend to run dry in France and Germany in summer, forcing them to TURN OFF their nuclear power plants.
With all the humans gone you would have droves of birds shitting on your solar panels, the ravens even drop rocks on your shiny solar panels, they love to screw things up. Your wind turbines would be hit by the category six hurricanes, so good luck with those. Your solar panels don’t work in winter and they don’t work during the night. Your wind turbines are not always available when they fail to work either. And you can’t build the massive batteries you need to store the electricity during winter, because the world simply does not have enough lead left in the ground to build those batteries.
This, the black ravens circling over my neighborhood, the sun reflecting in the windows of my neighbors, the smell of shit everywhere, the green parrots from India that somehow manage to survive here, the wild rats, the occasional hedgehog when God feels like helping me out, this is my world. If this world dies then I want to die with it.
If Pajeet in India has to die in the heatwaves, if the orangutans have to end up in the peanut butter, if the elephants have to die out, then I want to die out with them and let the ugly nerds dwell in their computer simulations without me, I do not consent to any of their bullshit and I want to have no part in it.
As far as reproduction is concerned, I don’t see how I’m supposed to justify raising a child in this world at this point in time, in the year 2025. I would like for things to be different, for temperatures to be stable, for my country to have less than ten million citizens, but that’s not how things are, the reality is we are now all huddled together in overpopulated rapidly warming cities.
It’s also not looking like the world is about to get any better, the CO2 emissions keep rising, but my own country the Netherlands is now more or less trying to do what you can reasonably expect of a Western population to be doing without forcing everyone to be vegan at gunpoint or having some kind of green North Korea. I kind of lost interest in protesting over this stuff, it’s not my country’s fault that the United States decided to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement.
As far as I’m concerned, this is it. I’m going to try to enjoy these few years that we have left and maybe my brain will be turned to mush slowly during those years as I keep catching fancy new viruses, or maybe there is some other way this all ends, but I don’t see this getting solved anymore at this point in time.
Most importantly perhaps I want to point out to all of you that they can’t solve this anymore. They went so far with their bullshit that at this point the Earth itself has started releasing greenhouse gasses. The forests are dying, the permafrost is melting, the methane clathrates in the ocean are releasing their methane, the peat bogs are drying up and releasing carbon, the arctic sea ice is melting and revealing the dark ocean beneath it. Do not count on these morons blocking the sun and figuring out in 2070 some genius way to get the carbon out of the air again, it’s not going to happen.
The easiest thing to do would be to capture the carbon as soon as the coal, gas or oil is being burned, when you have it 100% pure instead of having to distill it from the air. They can not do that, they can not figure out how to do it, they can not figure out where to leave the carbon dioxide, they can’t figure out how to economically process it at scale, so if they can’t capture and sequester it at the point of release, don’t count on these morons ever capturing it directly from the air, that’s not going to happen, we’re stuck with this bullshit for the rest of industrial civilization’s lifespan.
The general population doesn’t want to be vegan and the morons in charge don’t want to force everyone to be vegan either, so everything we’re doing now is just rearranging furniture on the Titanic, just a complete and utter waste of human effort that is only valuable insofar as it helps you come to terms with the ultimately nature of the end of this way of life.
But as long as my body is healthy and I can see the birds fly across my head and as long as I can hear them, then it’s mostly fine with me, because it means that after us humans die out, life still continues in some other form. That’s what I care about now.
Were you hoping for something more casual? Sorry about that. I’m not allowed to drink alcohol or smoke pot.
We have to finally face the music and ask WHY advanced multigalactic civilizations do not exist. Your post provides one reason, but there are others, for example the mice heaven experiment where the spoiled mice died out despite amazing “GDP” of the perfectly provided-for mouse colony.
I want my descendants to be the ones to turn off the remaining lights however
I’m sure the denizens of every failing empire felt that way. Yet the world marched on.
These are just historical cycles. Smaller cycle of 80 years, longer cycle of 240 years…
Some of the cycles are full-on turmoil periods. Japan, so civilized and united nowadays, had the Warring States period, which lasted about 150 years in the middle ages.
Maybe what awaits mankind is a whole century of death, disease and warfare.
So what. Mankind marches on, without regard to those so self-centered that they thought the world is ending with them.
Maybe we run out of oil, and 400 years from now we are hunting animals with spears again. Then a new rebirth, thousands of years later. Nothing is guaranteed.
The genes who will pass on will belong to those who make many children, and teach them how to survive in the office as well as in the forest.
> Most importantly perhaps I want to point out to all of you that they can’t solve this anymore.
You’re wrong. If you have a garden plant a few Kiri. Tell everybody about the Kiri!!
Under optimistic assumptions (1 ton CO₂ per tree), you might need around 1 billion kiri trees to remove the excess CO₂ from the atmosphere. Under more conservative estimates, the number could be several times higher—on the order of a few billion trees. – DeepSeek
Peace of cake! And imagine all the beauty!
Why dind’t the swedish girl not think about this.
“If you have a garden plant a few Kiri”
In Switzerland you go directly to jail when you plant a Paulownia.
Why Richard?
More plants will sprout because of more warmth, more moisture, therefore: calm down.
When the Campi Flegrei will go boom in the next 3 years, you will have a volcanic winter so you will be happy with 3°C more.
It’s all okay. No reason to freak out about CO2.
Torturing billions of animals for milk and meat everyday is much bigger problem than 400ppm CO2 in the air. People never go vegan because of CO2, they even don’t go vegan if they know that being a production animal is hell on earth for them. They are simply not intrested in other living beings and their suffering. They are only intrested in proloning their own little miserable lifes and stuff up their useless belly every day. They have no greater principles in life they live for. Other people like us have principles they would die for, that’s the difference between them and us.
Richard is a total fake re military bravery and veganism.
All he believes in, is hatred.
He’ll grab any chance to express hatred.
Serious question – why not escape to Nieuw Zeeland? Europe is doomed, NZ has everything you want and need. It will go to shit here in Europe long before it goes to shit there.
Why try to desperately survive? Survival either has to be comfortable, or you should avoid it. Otherwise you’re simply making the ultimate effect of the bottleneck worse.
New Zealand is pretty comfy though. It’ll probably be possible to survive comfortably there for a while longer than it will in Nederlands or anywhere else in Eurasia once the world goes to shit.
Some of us have our lives nailed to our spines.
Suicide is out of the question, but murder isn’t.
Not everyone cares about being comfortable. Also what counts as comfortable depends on the person; if you’re already living in a crapshack and heating it with burning tires, and can’t afford dentistry, how much worse will things be? Also a person may want to outlive their parents or their dogs, and so want to survive at least that long.
I think climate is a luxury problem. I expect the future to become very xenophobic. Especially when fighting over resources like food or housing starts. No government can control that. So in my opinion if you want to survive best options is to stay in your home country. I dont expect New Zealanders to kill fellow white europeans (if you live in a country were you stick out in terms of color – not good) of course but when their families suffer they wont love you either.
There will be blood. We are back a hundred years and Germany will turn into Weimar again until a new nationalistic Dictator will arise. Arise in many countries. Its all cycles. Humans react always in the same way.
My best advice: Enjoy the decline. Become a grey man. Blend into your surrounding and become invisible. Smile, nod and agree.
So, you want to go and hide in New Zealand, also known as Aotearoa by the Māori.
You do know that the place is a collection of extremely isolated and moistened postage stamps out in the middle of the Pacific, which are about to run out of gas?
That’s where you want to go?
Okay, but before you commit, you should know that it wasn’t really all that long ago that the Māori, far from the influence of other people, used to feast on human flesh:
“There is not a bay, not a cove, in New Zealand which has not witnessed horrible dramas, and woe to the white man who falls into the New Zealanders’ hands.”
It’s not a custom they were keen to give up either:
“One of the arguments they made use of to Tapia, who frequently expostulated with them against this custom, was that there could be no harm in killing and eating the man who would do the same by them if it was in his power. For, said they, ‘Can there be any harm in eating our enemies, whom we have killed in battle? Would not those very enemies have done the same to us?’ I have often seen them listen to Tapia with great attention, but I never found his arguments have any weight with them. When Oedidee and several of our people showed their abhorrence of it, they only laughed at them.”
Captain Cook
The Māori are natural warriors my friend. The product of natural selection hard at work on those isolated islands.
Kill or be killed.
Eat or be Eaten.
Rinse and repeat.
The Māori are the only indigenous race of the region to fight the whites, who were armed with guns and steel, to a standstill with nothing but stone age weapons, including the awesome and beautiful jade mere: a deft flick of the wrist, off pops the top of the dome, then chuck another ‘long pig’ in the Hāngī.
All else being equal, I’d back a Māori over a white man any day the week, so it’s amusing to hear that some egghead techbros have decided on the place as a doomsday location. I’m sure the Māori will be as happy as fat kid with cake after the collapse:
“New Zealanders particularly esteem the brain, and reject the remainder of the head; but an English missionary has reported that Pomare, a chief of the Bay of Islands, ate six entire heads. Chiefs’ heads are usually dried and perfectly preserved by an ingenious process. When a tribe wishes to make peace, it offers the vanquished tribe, as proof of its good intentions, the heads of the chiefs the others have lost. These heads are also articles of commerce in the neighbourhood of the Bay of Islands.”
Dr. Felix Maynard & Alexandre Dumas, The Whalers, Hutchinson, 1937
>it’s not my country’s fault that the United States decided to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement.
The US was the only country to actually meet its target
Ouch
Ideally, the industrial-technological system would go away.
Failing that, it’d be preferable for it to run on an anarchist/communist operating system.
Understanding here that at this stage the whole system is probably going to go away, no matter what, owing to ecological overshoot.
Seeing as I’m creating a preference wish list (if only wishes were fishes), it would be remiss of me not to also add ‘Christian’.
Here’s an interesting Q&A on the climate crisis with Richard Crim, who posts great analysis on Substack and in the r/collapse subreddit. I’ve skipped ahead to the part where he criticizes the techno-optimists like Musk:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YLVxoTmf0s4?&t=1220
I don’t care if the planet warmed by 2 degrees or 20. Most of the warming was/is caused by undersea volanoes, not CO2. You can choose to ignore that and be a pawn to the wealthy globalists. I don’t care about that either.
Millions of years ago the planet was totally a hot rain forest. Then it froze over. Then hot again. No humans were driving cars. You can be stupid and ignore that too for all I care. I like science and I’m actually smart and educated enough to understand it. Too bad for you.
Oh smart and educated Harrold. I have news for you. You’re not even close. I´ll give a clue: Greenland. Green, Groen, Verde, Grün. Think about it. And plant a Kiri.
Radagast, I was reading eloquent books about the future horrors of global warming before you were even born, in the early 1990s; CO2 measurements from Mauna Loa and how the planet breathes, all that, and I’m telling you I no longer believe carbon dioxide is a planetary poison.
I campaigned for Al Gore in 2000 and was heartbroken when GW stole it.
The covid insanity has made me question everything in a big way.
Wish I could be as eloquent expressing myself as the Wombat.
This is your beloved “Mother Nature”
https://twitter.com/twin_presence/status/1901477872512258080?s=46
I’m eating fish and lentils right now because I’m not a v-gan, but while I do so, I’m wondering why you are such a mentally rigid mental case when you constantly profess to have the cures to mental rigidity and mental illness.
At this point you’re rewriting the same articles over and over almost as badly as prozak, and you literally just stayed in the psych ward.
I have to wonder – would you be worse off for lack of the treatments you self administer? If so, I legitimately feel sympathy for you.
I look at keto diet fatties buying constipation treatments in the same cart load as their organic burgers, and wonder why they don’t just realize that what they are doing is just not working and that they need to just do something entirely different.
That’s how I’m beginning to feel about you and mental health.
Your internal world appears very constrained to a rut of a few topics. I know that the stuff you post here isn’t all you think about, but I know that your primary impetus for posting it is the fact that you are stewing on it enough that you have to get it out of your system.
Many years have now gone by, and you’re saying the same things as you were when I first met you, and you’re still just as miserable and neurotic.
When do you finally look up and realize something isn’t working for you?
>When do you finally look up and realize something isn’t working for you?
“Only at the point of dyin’”
https://youtu.be/j6gLJ4_sfG8?si=wNvfCCH27QS48YuW
Sorry I’m gay(ish)
Would scientists who’s jobs, money, prestige, etc all depend on a continuous “climate crisis” narrative fake or fudge data to prop up that narrative?
What happened with COVID and jabs? Were all the scientists honest and perfect? Uh……………
But these other scientists over here, we believe those ones 100%?
Always check your assumptions and check your data. Garbage data in = garbage conclusions out, such as concluding the earth is about to swallowed up by the sea, something that there is literally ZERO actual physical evidence of.
Reminds of this silly movie I saw called “Last Sentinal” based on the hilarious premise that due to ‘climate change’ only two tiny islands remained on earth with the rest underwater (yes, late stage climate change starts to melt the earth itself into water, look for the scientific papers on this to come out soon), and of course the two islands went to war with each other.
Why’d you delete “it’s ok to be brown”
I’m going to try to improve the quality of my posts and I don’t want to endlessly hover over the same few subjects anymore. Sorry.
Good decision
Heh
I think the purpose of the SDGs is to aim for people who were born and raised in developed countries to live in the inconvenience, unsanitary conditions, and poverty of developing countries.
It is quite conceivable that such a life will become unbearable and society will become unstable, so I think a battlefield will be necessary somewhere.
It seems that troops from EU countries will be dispatched to Ukraine to monitor the ceasefire. I wonder if that is the reason.
Maybe the reason the United States is rushing for a ceasefire is because a similar battlefield is needed in Asia.
I thought that the war in Ukraine was a war to decide who will manage the remaining fossil fuels and give them priority for use. But recently I’ve come to think that there is another reason as well.
Radagast, you need to check out this: https://www.mariobuildreps.com. We’re doomed indeed but not as fast as you think. We have an impact, but not that much.
If you want to cure your anxiety over climate change, try the following:
– Eat one meal a week with mostly meat
– Stop taking drugs, alcohol, and caffeine
– Meet a girl and strive for a committed relationship and get laid on the regular
– Develop adherence to a religious creed of some kind
– Lift weights twice a week and do cardio twice a week
I promise you, after a few months your anxiety will be gone, or at least normal.
That way, in 50 years when nothing has changed and none of your doomsayer prophecies have come to fruition (underwater landslides? That’s a thing that causes you stress? WTF) you can look back on a mostly-happy and only mildly miserable existence, just like the rest of us.
“As far as reproduction is concerned, I don’t see how I’m supposed to justify raising a child in this world at this point in time, in the year 2025.” I raised two, and they are happy, healthy, and well-adjusted. It can and should be done.
If you don’t see how sick so many people are all of a sudden, you are totally blind. But you are not alone. I have a friend in Canada and his whole family is horribly sick all the time, including his son’s infant. It is not normal at all. But he tells me about it and it doesn’t worry him a bit. His brain is covid damaged; I guess this is a covid gift.
I just flew cross country to visit a relative. The people in the airports and on the flights looked BAD. They looked OLD, even if they weren’t old. Even the Asian people looked aged, and they shouldn’t have because of their skin type.
I could list the zillion people I know – relatives, family friends, neighbors, uber drivers, church members – who are sick now in ways they weren’t a few years ago. Many of them are fairly young. But you wouldn’t believe me; you would just put it out of your mind and keep giving dopey advice.
I give these people two more years before they start to drop. It all takes time; people think if it doesn’t happen instantly it isn’t happening. Of course I fervently hope I am wrong, but looking at these people I am not wrong. I have not yet caught covid so my brain is still working and I can see this.
Karen, what exactly about “eat well, get sober, invest in a long term relationship/s, develop a cosmic worldview, and exercise appropriately” is “dopey advice”?
Exactly what do YOU think tangibly affects mental health and one’s perception of the world?
You just ignored what I wrote. Well, I did say you would.
Your “good advice” was good advice five years ago. It is not now.
Most of the people that I described above, live as you recommend, other than the weight lifting.
So what are you proposing as good advice now? Nihilistic veganism with a large side of psychedelics and impotent rage?
I have in fact seen what you describe, but we clearly seem to ascribe different causes. I think it is two decades compounding of exactly what I mentioned above: shitty foods, endless drug intervention, loss of spiritual and moral compass, and dependence on fake online “relationships”. Couple that with years of impotent rage about “underwater landslides” and things that cannot be controlled, and you get a population at the point of breaking.
But you flippantly dismiss me and propose no alternative. I’m interested in your counterpoint or refutation.
The people I know who are sick almost all live the sort of life you approve of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do I have to write that a third time??
It is not a flippant thing to say; it is a relevant response to your advice. Following your advice is not working for them. Okay, maybe they are mentally healthier than they would be otherwise, but they are SICK and they are not going to last long. How useful is a good mood and having kids if there is going to be a die off in two years???? Is that fair to the kids????
I come from a small town area and my church is a small town kind of church and almost all of my relatives live old time conventional lives and so do family friends; it is not a loss of spirit and moral compass that is causing aortic aneurisms and pancreatic cancer and dementia and premature wrinkles and undereye hollows. It’s covid infections that aren’t clearing and I don’t have a solution other than trying to find cures for covid and cures for vax damage, but if everyone is going to say it is bad food and drug interventions and online relationships then we are truly fucked. Either you have not read up on the effect of covid and the vaxxes on the human body or you don’t want to think about it.
I see I only wrote it explicitly in my second post. But there you go: the people I know who are sick are ALREADY following your advice. The latest death was a 63 y.o. guy who was a health foodie exercising guy who was married with kids.
Just writing this makes me feel like I am nuts but I’m not; this is what I am seeing. I don’t want to think about it either.
I’m not minimizing your observations at all, I have seen similar although not to the same extent.
I am saying however that 20 years of unhealthy habits will have a compounding effect that WILL cause the very things you say it won’t. Hell, it’s been much longer than 20 years. The bill is coming due. Chronic and acute illnesses are downstream from years of poisonous foods, poor mental health, and drug intervention at the drop of a hat. A system can be stressed far beyond its nameplate capacity, but there will be a weak spot and it will cease to function eventually. That is what’s happening now. Covid, especially the vaxx, maybe accelerated what was already well in motion.
I don’t think you are saying that the host’s life wouldn’t be better if he embraced the changes I outlined, but it kinda sounds like you are saying there’s no point for wisdom and healthy choices. If that’s the case, I guess we won’t see eye to eye.
And why have children? Because it’s a good thing to do and you can raise them to largely avoid the concerns you express. Quitting is equally wrong – and sinful – as are hopelessness and despair.
You don’t get off the hook by saying there’s nothing we can do. There is always something we can do, even if it prolongs the inevitable.
@kareninca, @Unbelievable Well I believe it’s cumulative. Cancers, neurodegenerative diseases and various metabolic diseases were going up before COVID- COVID just accelerated everything and made things worse. I can speak for me and my family. We had COVID twice and I have not noticed cognitive decline but this does not mean it is not happening in a very slow pace and will show itself in a few years or decades. My husband came down with shingles after COVID. We have not used any pharma antivirals just herbs. To mitigate the damage that COVID did I take coconut oil everyday, my thinking is monolaurin from metabolized coconut oil will help removing/keeping in check the SARS-Cov 2 in different reservoirs. There was a study done I believe in Italy with monolaurin and it showed reduced COVID and faster recovery in people vs control.
1. Coconut oil
2. Herbs (olive leaf, turmeric, ginger, stinging nettle, dandelion root, chaga, reshi and so many more in rotation)
3. Sun (morning sun, midday for Vit D and evening sun for its healing infrared)
4. Intermittent fasting everyday and some longer fasting
5. Instead of gym hiking in the nature
6. Avoid crowds and indoor settings as much as possible
7. Healthy eating, low/no sugar etc
8. Clean living space- no perfumes, toxic soaps, toothpaste etc (I make everything myself)
Nature has most of the answers if we are willing to look for it…
Kareninca, people see what they want to see.
Confirmation bias. But, I see the same thing.
Spike protein ages us.
Maybe if I put it in all caps.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE I KNOW WHO ARE SICK ARE LIVING THE WAY YOU RECOMMEND. THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THIS WHOLESOME WAY FOR MANY YEARS.
And, I DID NOT SAY THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO; I WROTE: “I don’t have a solution other than trying to find cures for covid and cures for vax damage”. WE NEED TO FIND TREATMENTS FOR COVID AND FOR THE VAXXES.
Do the caps help?
You can’t protect kids from covid unless you face up to the problem of covid. We don’t have tools to do that now, in part because of denial about the cause of all this sickness.
It is morally wrong to have children in order to improve one’s own life; that is treating them as a means rather than an end in themselves. You are just SAYING that having kids is a good thing to do; you aren’t proving it. I have no particular opinion on the matter in ordinary times; these are not ordinary times.
@Karen “MOST OF THE PEOPLE I KNOW WHO ARE SICK ARE LIVING THE WAY YOU RECOMMEND. THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THIS WHOLESOME WAY FOR MANY YEARS.”
Yeah, but aren’t they all vaccinated? The only time I hear about people who were health conscious athletes that now look terrible, and haven’t become chain smoking alcoholics, all got the vaccine.
All other factors being equal, I think there is a direct connection between how many vaccinations and prescription medications a person has had, and how healthy they are, with those consuming the least looking the best.
Also, people who are lifetime customers of big pharma are usually the most heavily vaccinated. People who are fully boosted are more likely than not to also receive other vaccinations with questionable safety record, and to be on multiple prescription and over-the-counter medications with questionable safety record as well. The cumulative effect takes a heavy tow.
And then there is the issue of viral load, which differs according to occupation and lifestyle, and perhaps genetic, ethnic, and blood type differences. People who are heavily vaccinated, heavily medicated, and experiencing high viral load, tend to look the worst.
Perhaps Unbelievable’s advice is more useful for the unvaccinated. Though I don’t think it’s a good idea for anyone with mental illness to have kids.
Do the histrionics make you feel better? And have you spelled out any action other than “someone should do something?” For my money and most adults, THAT is the dopiest advice.
Big Bird – yes, they are all vaccinated. As Bill wrote above, the spike protein ages people. I haven’t seen the few people I know in real life who aren’t vaccinated in several years, so I just don’t know from my own observations how the unvaccinated fare. And if someone online like “Unbelievable” says he is doing great, I don’t have much reason to take him seriously; I just can’t tell.
Unbelievable – it’s not histrionics. You were not able to read what I wrote, for some reason. I put the most important points in caps in the hopes that you would be able to see them.
Just because my advice is difficult, doesn’t mean it is incorrect. I am avoiding catching covid (so far so good) and keeping my household from catching it. The next best thing is a cure; I am always on the lookout for things that might help, and so is Rintrah. Your advice is easy and incorrect, because you are not taking reality into account; you’re just basing your actions and advice on wishful thinking.
Big Bird, the Korean dog study makes me think that the unvaccinated are in trouble, too. All of the dogs sustained brain damage (and none had been vaccinated). I would mention that to Unbelievable but he seems to have reading comprehension issues and I would have to post/link it six times.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/covid-infection-can-damage-brains-dogs-study-suggests#:~:text=Dogs%20experimentally%20infected%20with%20the,week%20in%20Emerging%20Infectious%20Diseases.
@kareninca and @Unbelievable. There are a few things folks who had COVID can do
1. Coconut oil (monolaurin kills Sars-Cov-2 and other enveloped viruses) I think it could help killing Sars-Cov-2 in reservoirs. There was a study done in Italy showing people with higher concentration of monolaurin were less susceptible to Sars-Cov2 and recovered faster than control group.
2. Intermittent fasting regularly and longer fasting a few times a year
3. Herbs, enzymes, medicinal mushrooms – olive leaf is great, so is turmeric, ginger. I’m going to experiment with rock rose which I’m told removes biofilms. I think it’s very important to clean and minimize the biofilms as pathogens hide inside. For us I purchased capsule filler and stainless steel grinder and I make all kinds of herbal remedies and we rotate them. My daughter is 8 and has not taken any antibiotics yet.
4. Sun exposure (morning, midday (vit D) and evening (infrared) without burning.
5. Karen, I took your advise about applying neosporin inside the nose and changed it a bit as I’m not crazy about antibiotics. I infused rosemary in coconut/castor oil for a few months, strained and I started applying it into my nose before going to crowded places like supermarket, flying, and even outside. My husband made fun of me but we came back from the park one day and he had stuffy nose. He applied it reluctantly and within a few minutes it completely opened his nose. I saw research lately about D-Limonene and I’m going to add a little lemon essential oil as well.
Also Sars-cov-2 damages mitochondria. Anything that helps mitochondria will help to mitigate COVID damage. Infrared is very healing so is light exercise, especially hiking in the nature. There is a doctor (pulmonologist) on you tube who has lots of videos about different topics. He said he had a patient with long COVID severe shortness of breath (8 out of 10) for over a year. He advised him to do intermittent fasting (he did not eat after 5:30PM) and to get as much sun as possible. The patient came back in a few weeks or months and shortness of breath was 3 out of 10. He had a major recovery. Nature has the answers. I’m sure it’s not possible to completely reverse the damage but it can be minimized.
Thank you for those leads, SA. I will look into coconut oil. The sun exposure is a very good idea.
I have tried intermittent fasting literally a dozen times, and each time it made my blood pressure skyrocket. It affects some people that way; women more often than men. Be sure to check your blood pressure if you do it. For most people it improves blood pressure but not everyone.
For mitochondria, there is low dose methylene blue. It is supposedly extremely safe, but double check for your own purposes.
My 100 year old father in law consumes 60 mg. of edible THC (hybrid) per day; six gummies. He is completely sharp, despite having had the vax four times (I think maybe the vax may not harm very old people so much due to their weak immune response). I think Rintrah’s view that THC helps with amyloids may be right.
I wish your family good health.
@kareninca, @Unbelievable Well I believe it’s cumulative. Cancers, neurodegenerative diseases and various metabolic diseases were going up before COVID- COVID just accelerated everything and made things worse. I can speak for me and my family. We had COVID twice and I have not noticed cognitive decline but this does not mean it is not happening in a very slow pace and will show itself in a few years or decades. My husband came down with shingles after COVID. We have not used any pharma antivirals just herbs. To mitigate the damage that COVID did I take coconut oil everyday, my thinking is monolaurin from metabolized coconut oil will help removing/keeping in check the SARS-Cov 2 in different reservoirs. There was a study done I believe in Italy with monolaurin and it showed reduced COVID and faster recovery in people vs control.
1. Coconut oil
2. Herbs (olive leaf, turmeric, ginger, stinging nettle, dandelion root, chaga, reshi and so many more in rotation)
3. Sun (morning sun, midday for Vit D and evening sun for its healing infrared)
4. Intermittent fasting everyday and some longer fasting
5. Instead of gym hiking in the nature
6. Avoid crowds and indoor settings as much as possible
7. Healthy eating, low/no sugar etc
8. Clean living space- no perfumes, toxic soaps, toothpaste etc (I make everything myself)
Nature has most of the answers if we are willing to look for it…
My estimate is 8 to 10 years and then the effects will become patently obvious to even then most brain-rotted retards. All that you can do is to prepare for the inevitable.
My plan is simple. Watch some YouTube videos of life in a poor Siberian village. You would be surprised at how many variety of meals can be prepared with a base of cabbage, carrots and onions and various picked vegetables as sides.
Energy train.
I’ll keep saying it until it finally clicks for someone. I think one person here has actually taken my advice and warnings seriously and I consider that to be one of the only worthwhile outcomes of my time posting on this site. You assume that what’s going on has a primarily biological or scientific cause to it, but there is an energetic or spiritual component to these types of diseases that people are completely unaware of. Interdimensional negative entities are the underlying cause for a lot of illnesses, and if you get energetically strong enough and you do enough work on yourself or others, you can heal and prevent those same illnesses as well – in both cases I’ve seen it myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeZo90lO2Wo&list=PLOFLYgmNpSobJeSQ9dvJhF5o7KdQNL-0M
Tryptie,
I have a question about COVID and cancer. I’m a scientist so I only have knowledge from that angle but I know there is more. In your opinion how did Sars-cov2 and other viruses like HIV appeared? And cancer, is it possible to cure cancer with energy training and if so what do you think cancer is from the energetic and spiritual perspective? Thanks in advance!
Thank you Tryptie.
Modern medical is extremely clever, but also over materialistic and ignores human potential of self-healing.
There should be a science of healing, but the guards of modern medicine i.e. FDA… just does not allow that.
Moderna medicine is sorcery according to the book of Revelation, indeed.
Imagine if vegans had the same mentality as Unbelievable and the other stock LSWMs that prowl the comments here. Imagine if we told every tortured sausage eater that the cure for their mental illness would be going vegan; that would be very annoying and transparent.
You know, Normies like to complain about how preachy vegans are, but in my experience on an interpersonal level they are far more preachy. It’s not the vegan kids who bully the carnists.
It seems that in actuality veganism is correlated with higher rates of depression, but lower levels of anxiety.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32483598/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20Vegan%20or%20vegetarian%20diets,for%20other%20outcomes%20were%20found.
Ridiculous. First of all, the LWSM is something I’ll wear with pride coming from this group.
Second, there was nothing preachy about “dude, maybe you’re malnourished, keep your principles most of the time but ease up once in awhile.” That is the OPPOSITE of preachy.
third, enough with the cherry-picked pubmed horseshit. We don’t need “studies” to show that shooting ourselves in the head might lead to unfavorable outcomes. Malnutrition is a real thing and has little at all to do with a study where variables are tightly controlled. People eat like shit, full stop.
You’ve gone and got yourself into a bit of a tizzy with all this gloomy nonsense haven’t you my sweet little baby boy?
How about some yoga?
Or better yet, why don’t we have a nice campfire, a singalong?
“Hear me out I’m a nice guy. . .
la, la, la. . .
And that’s why when you’re feeling that fight or flight
It’s so warm and bright, use my gaslight”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAPTBBK_fQ
Unbelievable is the bad kind of autist. He should really learn to read/listen what others write/say.
Btw, seed oils seem to have a similar effect to what Radagast thinks covid does, just slower. Virii need receptors and gates. Healthy membranes through healthy fats is a way to cure covid sequelae. Just maybe. A few months after I left the bad oils and fat out, my hair, sweat and skin improved in such a profound way I need less showers and my hair need soap only every week or two. Nobody notices, in fact, they ask for the brand of the conditioner, haha. I save a lot of money. Waem water is not free. Nice side effect.
Olive Oil gang gang.
Listen to what others say? I specifically ASKED her to make her point. And by the way she still didn’t make it. ““I don’t have a solution other than trying to find cures for covid and cures for vax damage”. WE NEED TO FIND TREATMENTS FOR COVID AND FOR THE VAXXES.” is not a practicable course of action for the individual. It puts the burden of action on someone else. It’s the worst kind of demagoguery.
Just because you are not capable of seeking out treatments and cures, doesn’t mean that other individuals are incapable. And even dumb people can go to the FLCCC website (for instance). And most people who find useful information of that sort try to share it.
This is a song my elders used to play a lot for us when we were kids. I hope you’re alright, and that you can contemplate this kind of thing without dragging yourself into some damn sense of responsibility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z15pxWUXvLY
You already are a digital simulation. The material world is an illusion created the by VR gear evolution welded to your head. The grand unified theory of physics is easy to find if you take the last Copernican step and look at the universe as information only – waves not particles. If you can make that step, then the 4th dimension isn’t ‘time’ and space isn’t ‘curved’ – you see time dilation for what it is – lag in a state machine that’s trying to process a dense field of quantum wave form equations. The “imaginary” dimension of the complex plane, wrapped around every line you can imagine in imaginary 3d space.
Setting aside the quantum stuff – which, when you think about it, if this were a simulation, there would be no reason to assume that the underlying nature of the reality upon which the simulation is constructed works the same as what we perceive from within it – the natural world being a corpse of a goddess and having properties more akin to a giant machine than a spiritual being with agency, is conceptually similar to the notion that we’re in a simulation. Samsara is often associated with a giant wheel with spokes, or perhaps a gear, turning across the eons. If you believe that everything ultimately had its origins from a living god, then I think you should assume that if something behaves like a machine, that it is somehow constructed. And if this is the case, and you also notice that your own spiritual nature is unlike that of the world you observe around you, then it would be prudent to look into exit strategies.
The wheel is not far off what it looks like. A fern is a better example though. The math on the complex plane is like a fractal tornado with internal vortices that twist and interact within. Those vortices are literally Maxwell and Schrodinger’s equations, plotted over time as they evolve and spin. It’s not a corpse – it’s a flower seeded by math. A continuation of a complex plane fractal like Mandelbrot’s, extending upward from the infinite well of math and manifesting itself into a 3d cellular automata at the Planck scale and above. If you can visualize it, it’s organic and sacred. It looks like ground truth. Simple and elegant.
I have an exit strategy. It’s a puzzle I call the “5 Grails.” It starts with solving the symbolic riddle hidden in de Troyes’s first account of the grail. It’s a triple pun in old French. The solution to that riddle leads to the clue to the next “grail” and the third one is Human-Ai alignment, which we need very soon. The 5th grail was an information GUT that unites general relativity and string theory in one parsimonious harmony based on relatively simple math.
Finding the 4th grail, which allows for extreme data compression using holographic data-structures serialized as complex plane wave functions produced the clue that led to the GUT.
I’m hopeful that if the GUT and/or the data compression tricks I can do get enough attention, then I’ll be able to break through the ignorance in the Human-Ai alignment community before we do an oops we can’t take back.
> I’m hopeful that if the GUT and/or the data compression tricks I can do get enough attention, then I’ll be able to break through the ignorance in the Human-Ai alignment community before we do an oops we can’t take back.
Narrator: there was no taking it back, because this Hell Realm is itself a Virtual Reality from a previous generation of humans, an iteration who decided to go transhuman.
It’s an Inception-level of worlds within worlds.
Slainte Mhath!